Improving Capitalism

[regent]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

 

[bripat9643]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

They all do. They're called "public schools."

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And then something will replace smartphones together with similar claims.

yes dear under capitalism you can advertise pet rocks all you want and wont sell many . Now even you can understand that Republican capitalism improves our standard of living at the fastest rate possible.

 

[ralfy]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

 

[bripat9643]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

It's a vast right-wing conspiracy!

 

[bripat9643]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

Every state does.

 

[ralfy]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

peak oil???? with prices lower than ever and new discoveries all over the world??? Ever heard of shale and fracking???

Which OPEC and Iran are trying their damnedest to fuck up.

The catch is that both have high production costs, just like the U.S.

You dont know what your talking about.
This is coming from someone who was in the oil industry for 25 years.

According to the IEA, conventional production peaked after 2005:

International Energy Agency says peak oil has hit. Crisis averted - CSMonitor.com

which is why we used shale oil to meet increasing demand. It also helped that prices went up because unconventional production has higher production costs.

The problem is that oil prices have gone down again (the same thing happened in 2009) together with other commodities:

Commodity prices collapse to lowest in 12 years - Telegraph

which means we're now facing another round of deflation. The end of QE is not helping:

The Oil Price Fall An Explanation in Two Charts

Meanwhile, production costs, marginal costs, and capital expenditures remain high:

Columbia SIPA Center on Global Energy Policy Global Oil Market Forecasting Main Approaches Key Drivers

which together with lower oil prices explains why rig counts are dropping:

Baker Hughes rig count March 20 - Business Insider

and debts rising, prompting continued production:

Oil Companies May Keep Up Output to Repay Debt BIS Says - Bloomberg Business

None of these counter the argument concerning peak oil. In fact, the need to discover more oil and resorting to shale oil confirms it.

Finally, the implication is that what we are doing is far removed from improving capitalism. If any, we are maintaining production by paying more.

 

[ralfy]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

And you think the government is going to solve the problem?
They're the one's supporting it you dipshit.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

peak oil???? with prices lower than ever and new discoveries all over the world??? Ever heard of shale and fracking???

Which OPEC and Iran are trying their damnedest to fuck up.

The catch is that both have high production costs, just like the U.S.

You dont know what your talking about.
This is coming from someone who was in the oil industry for 25 years.

According to the IEA, conventional production peaked after 2005:

International Energy Agency says peak oil has hit. Crisis averted - CSMonitor.com

which is why we used shale oil to meet increasing demand. It also helped that prices went up because unconventional production has higher production costs.

The problem is that oil prices have gone down again (the same thing happened in 2009) together with other commodities:

Commodity prices collapse to lowest in 12 years - Telegraph

which means we're now facing another round of deflation. The end of QE is not helping:

The Oil Price Fall An Explanation in Two Charts

Meanwhile, production costs, marginal costs, and capital expenditures remain high:

Columbia SIPA Center on Global Energy Policy Global Oil Market Forecasting Main Approaches Key Drivers

which together with lower oil prices explains why rig counts are dropping:

Baker Hughes rig count March 20 - Business Insider

and debts rising, prompting continued production:

Oil Companies May Keep Up Output to Repay Debt BIS Says - Bloomberg Business

None of these counter the argument concerning peak oil. In fact, the need to discover more oil and resorting to shale oil confirms it.

Finally, the implication is that what we are doing is far removed from improving capitalism. If any, we are maintaining production by paying more.

You just posted all that crap and it only backs up my statement.
Thanks dude.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

 

[bripat9643]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

peak oil???? with prices lower than ever and new discoveries all over the world??? Ever heard of shale and fracking???

Which OPEC and Iran are trying their damnedest to fuck up.

The catch is that both have high production costs, just like the U.S.

You dont know what your talking about.
This is coming from someone who was in the oil industry for 25 years.

According to the IEA, conventional production peaked after 2005:

International Energy Agency says peak oil has hit. Crisis averted - CSMonitor.com

which is why we used shale oil to meet increasing demand. It also helped that prices went up because unconventional production has higher production costs.

The problem is that oil prices have gone down again (the same thing happened in 2009) together with other commodities:

Commodity prices collapse to lowest in 12 years - Telegraph

which means we're now facing another round of deflation. The end of QE is not helping:

The Oil Price Fall An Explanation in Two Charts

Meanwhile, production costs, marginal costs, and capital expenditures remain high:

Columbia SIPA Center on Global Energy Policy Global Oil Market Forecasting Main Approaches Key Drivers

which together with lower oil prices explains why rig counts are dropping:

Baker Hughes rig count March 20 - Business Insider

and debts rising, prompting continued production:

Oil Companies May Keep Up Output to Repay Debt BIS Says - Bloomberg Business

None of these counter the argument concerning peak oil. In fact, the need to discover more oil and resorting to shale oil confirms it.

Finally, the implication is that what we are doing is far removed from improving capitalism. If any, we are maintaining production by paying more.

Your claim was that OPEC and Iran have high production costs. The later certainly doesn't and many members of OPEC like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq have very low production costs. They sit on giant oil fields that can be harvested by little more than poking a hole in the ground.

Once again, you posted falsehoods and irrelevant bullshit. That seems to be your modus operandi.

 

[bripat9643]

No one wants to pass laws preventing people from educating their children

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Utter horseshit.

 

[georgephillip]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

Thanks for your link!
"The idea that a few bankers control a large chunk of the global economy might not seem like news to New York's Occupy Wall Street movement and protesters elsewhere (see photo).

"But the study, by a trio of complex systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, is the first to go beyond ideology to empirically identify such a network of power. It combines the mathematics long used to model natural systems with comprehensive corporate data to map ownership among the world's transnational corporations (TNCs).

"'Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market,' says James Glattfelder. 'Our analysis is reality-based.'"

Reality based politics?

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

Thanks for your link!
"The idea that a few bankers control a large chunk of the global economy might not seem like news to New York's Occupy Wall Street movement and protesters elsewhere (see photo).

"But the study, by a trio of complex systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, is the first to go beyond ideology to empirically identify such a network of power. It combines the mathematics long used to model natural systems with comprehensive corporate data to map ownership among the world's transnational corporations (TNCs).

"'Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market,' says James Glattfelder. 'Our analysis is reality-based.'"

Reality based politics?

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

And you dont think politicians have anything to do with it?

 

[georgephillip]

And you dont think politicians have anything to do with it?

No. I think most of the politicians are useful tools/idiots for the 1318 transnational corporations that this link alleges forms the core of the global economy.

"The 1318 transnational corporations that form the core of the economy. Superconnected companies are red, very connected companies are yellow. The size of the dot represents revenue."
Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - image 1 - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

 

[bripat9643]

And you dont think politicians have anything to do with it?

No. I think most of the politicians are useful tools/idiots for the 1318 transnational corporations that this link alleges forms the core of the global economy.

"The 1318 transnational corporations that form the core of the economy. Superconnected companies are red, very connected companies are yellow. The size of the dot represents revenue."
Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - image 1 - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

How are these companies "connected," the CEOs played together at a charity golf tournament?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And you dont think politicians have anything to do with it?

No. I think most of the politicians are useful tools/idiots for the 1318 transnational corporations that this link alleges forms the core of the global economy.

"The 1318 transnational corporations that form the core of the economy. Superconnected companies are red, very connected companies are yellow. The size of the dot represents revenue."
Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - image 1 - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

it must be hard for 1400 competing companies to get together and decide how to run the world. I wonder how that libcommie conspiracy works?

In any case they must be doing a great job since world poverty has been cut in half in the last 30 years!!

 

[ralfy]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

And you think the government is going to solve the problem?
They're the one's supporting it you dipshit.

I never argued that the government will solve this problem. If any, governments work for Big Business.