RFK Jr.'s Conservative/Centrist Positions -- You Will Probably Be Surprised

[mikegriffith1]

Below are most of RFK Jr.'s conservative/centrist positions. They are not all of his positions. He holds many liberal positions as well, but he holds enough conservative/centrist positions that he should be an appealing alternative for many voters who are turned off by Biden and Trump.

-- He opposes federal funding for sanctuary cities.

-- He supports stronger border security, including the deployment of military units to the border, and has condemned Biden's open-borders policy.

-- He supports requiring immigrants to pass a citizenship test before they can become citizens.

-- He supports banning immigration from high-risk countries until the government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists.

-- He opposes allowing illegal immigrants to vote.

-- He opposes defunding the police and argues that police funding should be increased in high-crime areas.

-- He opposes allowing victims of gun violence to sue gun manufacturers.

-- He opposes efforts to reduce our support for Israel and argues that we should be giving Israel more aid and support.

-- He supports requiring a photo ID to vote.

-- He opposes lowering the minimum age for voting.

-- He opposes--yes, opposes--raising the corporate income tax rate.

-- He opposes--yes, opposes--raising the capital gains tax, correctly noting that this will discourage investment.

-- He supports ending the federal gasoline tax.

-- He opposes--yes, opposes--affirmative action programs.

-- He opposes federal tax breaks for people who buy electric vehicles.

-- He supports raising tariffs on China.

-- He believes labor unions should have their powers limited, including the power of collective bargaining in some cases.

-- He opposes Common Core education standards.

-- He supports charter schools.

-- He opposes the use of mail-in ballots except for voters who are physically incapable of making it to a polling location.

-- He believes there should be more restrictions on receiving welfare benefits, including the requiring of drug testing to receive benefits.

-- He opposes adding further restrictions on the current process of buying a gun.

-- He opposes a mandatory federal buy-back of assault weapons.

-- He opposes allowing minors to receive gender-transition treatment or surgery.

-- He opposes adding gender identity to anti-discrimination laws.

-- He opposes allowing biological males to compete in female sports.

-- He opposed the banning of religious gatherings during the pandemic.

-- He supports term limits for members of Congress.

-- He opposes forcing religious organizations to include free birth control in their employee health insurance plans.

-- He supports a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks.

-- He opposes removing references to God from our currently, federal buildings, and national monuments.

You can look up all of his known positions here: LINK. This page lists all of his known positions on the issues listed on the page. To see his positions on a certain issue, click on the tab for that issue.

 

[JoeB131]

So... he's a nutbag.

We already established that.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Oh, I left out the fact that he supports a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks. I've added this to the OP.

So... he's a nutbag.

We already established that.

No, we've established that you're a Marxist loon, so of course you would say this about RFK Jr.

Just FYI, RFK Jr. earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in American history and literature from Harvard University. He then studied at the London School of Economics before earning a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Virginia School of Law. He also earned a Master of Laws degree from Pace University.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, I left out the fact that he supports a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks. I've added this to the OP.



No, we've established that you're a Marxist loon, so of course you would say this about RFK Jr.

Just FYI, RFK Jr. earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in American history and literature from Harvard University. He then studied at the London School of Economics before earning a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Virginia School of Law. He also earned a Master of Laws degree from Pace University.

And he's still as nutty as a fruitcake.

RFK Jr. Launches Independent 2024 Run: Here Are All The Conspiracies He Promotes—From Vaccines To Mass Shootings

Kennedy Jr. suggested recently that the Covid-19 virus was engineered to give Chinese and Ashkenazi Jewish people some sort of immunity.

www.forbes.com

Covid-19 targets certain races and gives others immunity: Kennedy Jr. was caught on camera telling fellow diners that “Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people” and “the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” according to a video made public in the New York Post, which also shows him saying the U.S. “put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes” and labs in Ukraine collected Russian and Chinese DNA “so we can target people by race.”

Mass shootings are linked to prescription drugs: Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac in a recent Twitter Spaces discussion, telling owner Elon Musk, “Prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost none of these events" (there's no scientifically established correlation between psychiatric drugs and mass violence, according to experts cited by PolitiFact).

The 2004 presidential election was stolen: Kennedy Jr. said in a 2006 Rolling Stone article he was “convinced” that voter fraud in the 2004 presidential election allowed former Republican President George W. Bush to steal the victory from Democrat John Kerry, but while a 2005 postmortem by the Democratic Party found a breakdown of the election system in Ohio, it found no evidence of fraud.

The CIA was involved in the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy: Reprising the unfounded claim he has made for years, Kennedy Jr. recently made the suggestion to Fox News’ Sean Hannity (though the federal government’s Warren Commission convened to study the killing found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot JFK in 1963).
The wrong person may have been convicted of killing his father: Kennedy Jr. cast doubt on the conviction of Sirhan Sirhan in the 1968 assassination of his father, former U.S. Attorney General and Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, to which gunman Sirhan Sirhan confessed days later, though his lawyers have claimed in recent years that he was hypnotized and coerced to kill

 

[Votto]

Oh dear, another "Conservatives, for the love of God, vote for RFK instead" thread.

 

[mikegriffith1]

And he's still as nutty as a fruitcake.

RFK Jr. Launches Independent 2024 Run: Here Are All The Conspiracies He Promotes—From Vaccines To Mass Shootings

Kennedy Jr. suggested recently that the Covid-19 virus was engineered to give Chinese and Ashkenazi Jewish people some sort of immunity.

www.forbes.com

Covid-19 targets certain races and gives others immunity: Kennedy Jr. was caught on camera telling fellow diners that “Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people” and “the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” according to a video made public in the New York Post, which also shows him saying the U.S. “put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes” and labs in Ukraine collected Russian and Chinese DNA “so we can target people by race.”

Mass shootings are linked to prescription drugs: Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac in a recent Twitter Spaces discussion, telling owner Elon Musk, “Prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost none of these events" (there's no scientifically established correlation between psychiatric drugs and mass violence, according to experts cited by PolitiFact).

The 2004 presidential election was stolen: Kennedy Jr. said in a 2006 Rolling Stone article he was “convinced” that voter fraud in the 2004 presidential election allowed former Republican President George W. Bush to steal the victory from Democrat John Kerry, but while a 2005 postmortem by the Democratic Party found a breakdown of the election system in Ohio, it found no evidence of fraud.

The CIA was involved in the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy: Reprising the unfounded claim he has made for years, Kennedy Jr. recently made the suggestion to Fox News’ Sean Hannity (though the federal government’s Warren Commission convened to study the killing found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot JFK in 1963).
The wrong person may have been convicted of killing his father: Kennedy Jr. cast doubt on the conviction of Sirhan Sirhan in the 1968 assassination of his father, former U.S. Attorney General and Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, to which gunman Sirhan Sirhan confessed days later, though his lawyers have claimed in recent years that he was hypnotized and coerced to kill

This is a shamefully distorted, selective attack on RFK Jr., and three of your attacks are on positions that are held by millions of other people.

This statement is especially rich: "though the federal government’s Warren Commission convened to study the killing found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot JFK in 1963."

The Warren Commission?!! You're citing the discredited, farcical Warren Commission, three of whose seven members we now know did not even agree with the Commission's two central claims?!

I know you live in an alternative reality from the rest of us, but even you should know that in 1977-1979 the House Select Committee on Assassinations reinvestigated the JFK case and rejected the Warren Commission's lone-gunman fantasy and found that two gunmen fired at JFK, that a gunman fired from the grassy knoll in front of JFK's limo, that Jack Ruby had extensive Mafia ties, that Ruby lied about how he entered the police basement to shoot Oswald and about why he shot Oswald, that Ruby made disturbing phone calls to high-level Mafia contacts in the weeks before the assassination, that Ruby's FBI polygraph indicated he lied when he said he was not part of a conspiracy, that someone impersonated Oswald in Mexico City weeks before the assassination, and that the Warren Commission's investigation was flawed and incomplete.

And RFK Jr. is on very solid ground in doubting that Sirhan shot his father. I know you've read nothing on this case, either, but here's a summary of some of the problems with the case against Sirhan from my RFK assassination website:

In 2004, an audio tape of RFK's assassination surfaced. Five audio experts who have analyzed the tape have found that it contains more gunshots than Sirhan's 8-bullet handgun could have fired.

One of those experts, Philip Van Praag, a world-renowned expert in audio recording and audio-recording technology, found there are two groups of two shots on the tape that come within 150 milliseconds of each other, far too fast for all of them to have been fired by Sirhan's gun. Van Praag determined that there are 13 shots on the tape.

FBI documents released under the Freedom of Information Act prove that at least 13 bullets were fired, which is five more bullets than Sirhan's gun could have fired.

Sirhan was pinned down after firing no more than three shots, and probably only two shots. But three shots hit RFK and one shot went through his clothing.

Furthermore, the three shots that hit RFK were all fired at a sharply upward angle, yet by all accounts Sirhan's gun was never fired at any such angle.

As surprising as this might sound, there is credible evidence that Sirhan was not even firing real bullets but was firing blanks. It is logical to assume that the other gunman, who planned on shooting RFK from behind, would have wanted to ensure that he was not hit by gunfire from Sirhan. Loading Sirhan's gun with blanks would have been the easiest and best way to do this.

One of the world's leading experts on hypnosis, Dr. Daniel Brown of Harvard University, interviewed and tested Sirhan for years, and concluded that Sirhan was hypno-programmed to fire at RFK, and that this was why Sirhan had no memory of shooting RFK and why he could not remember several key periods of time leading up to the assassination. Dr. Brown provided a detailed report on his findings in his sworn statement for Sirhan's 2011 appeal (his statement is linked above in the Articles section under the title "Evidence that Sirhan Was Hypno-Programmed to Fire at RFK").

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

RFK Jr. is not qualified to be President, but then neither was Mr. Trump.

I would think RFK Jr. should take more votes from the GOP than the Dem candidate, but with this undereducated group of voters, who knows?

 

[mikegriffith1]

RFK Jr. is not qualified to be President, but then neither was Mr. Trump.

What mindless partisan nonsense. RFK Jr. is better educated than either Trump or Biden.

I would think RFK Jr. should take more votes from the GOP than the Dem candidate,

RFK Jr.'s donations have been somewhat balanced from people who donated to a political campaign in 2016 and/or 2020, with about 2,300 coming from Republican donors and about 1,900 coming from Democratic donors.

Significantly, about 60% of RFK Jr.'s donations have come from people who did not make political donations in 2016 and/or 2020.

but with this undereducated group of voters, who knows?

"Undereducated"? Really? I won't say anything about your qualifications to be judging the education of other voters given your posts in this forum. But, I will say that rabid partisans like you are a big part of the problem with our politics today.

FYI, according to Pew Research data, about 45% of voters who were college graduates or who had some college voted for Trump in 2020.

Moreover, Trump beat Biden among voters with incomes over $100K, 54% to 42%. Thus, a solid majority of the most successful people who voted chose Trump over Biden.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Quoting a silly, I won't say anything about your qualifications to be judging the education of other voters given your posts in this forum, Mike, but you are fun to read.

And if you are correct about those with higher income more likely to vote for Trump, why are nimwits saying the Dems are the party of the rich?

 

[Oddball]

Below are most of RFK Jr.'s conservative/centrist positions. They are not all of his positions. He holds many liberal positions as well, but he holds enough conservative/centrist positions that he should be an appealing alternative for many voters who are turned off by Biden and Trump.

-- He opposes federal funding for sanctuary cities.

-- He supports stronger border security, including the deployment of military units to the border, and has condemned Biden's open-borders policy.

-- He supports requiring immigrants to pass a citizenship test before they can become citizens.

-- He supports banning immigration from high-risk countries until the government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists.

-- He opposes allowing illegal immigrants to vote.

-- He opposes defunding the police and argues that police funding should be increased in high-crime areas.

-- He opposes allowing victims of gun violence to sue gun manufacturers.

-- He opposes efforts to reduce our support for Israel and argues that we should be giving Israel more aid and support.

-- He supports requiring a photo ID to vote.

-- He opposes lowering the minimum age for voting.

-- He opposes--yes, opposes--raising the corporate income tax rate.

-- He opposes--yes, opposes--raising the capital gains tax, correctly noting that this will discourage investment.

-- He supports ending the federal gasoline tax.

-- He opposes--yes, opposes--affirmative action programs.

-- He opposes federal tax breaks for people who buy electric vehicles.

-- He supports raising tariffs on China.

-- He believes labor unions should have their powers limited, including the power of collective bargaining in some cases.

-- He opposes Common Core education standards.

-- He supports charter schools.

-- He opposes the use of mail-in ballots except for voters who are physically incapable of making it to a polling location.

-- He believes there should be more restrictions on receiving welfare benefits, including the requiring of drug testing to receive benefits.

-- He opposes adding further restrictions on the current process of buying a gun.

-- He opposes a mandatory federal buy-back of assault weapons.

-- He opposes allowing minors to receive gender-transition treatment or surgery.

-- He opposes adding gender identity to anti-discrimination laws.

-- He opposes allowing biological males to compete in female sports.

-- He opposed the banning of religious gatherings during the pandemic.

-- He supports term limits for members of Congress.

-- He opposes forcing religious organizations to include free birth control in their employee health insurance plans.

-- He supports a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks.

-- He opposes removing references to God from our currently, federal buildings, and national monuments.

You can look up all of his known positions here: LINK. This page lists all of his known positions on the issues listed on the page. To see his positions on a certain issue, click on the tab for that issue.

Those were mainstream democrat positions 40 years ago....That's how far left the Overton window has lurched.

 

[JoeB131]

This statement is especially rich: "though the federal government’s Warren Commission convened to study the killing found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot JFK in 1963."

The Warren Commission?!! You're citing the discredited, farcical Warren Commission, three of whose seven members we now know did not even agree with the Commission's two central claims?!

Um, sorry, man, Oswald acted alone.

If you were organizing an assassination, you certainly wouldn't recruit a lifetime loser like Lee Harvard Oswald, a guy who failed at nearly everything he ever tried in life.

I know you live in an alternative reality from the rest of us, but even you should know that in 1977-1979 the House Select Committee on Assassinations reinvestigated the JFK case and rejected the Warren Commission's lone-gunman fantasy and found that two gunmen fired at JFK, that a gunman fired from the grassy knoll in front of JFK's limo, that Jack Ruby had extensive Mafia ties, that Ruby lied about how he entered the police basement to shoot Oswald and about why he shot Oswald, that Ruby made disturbing phone calls to high-level Mafia contacts in the weeks before the assassination, that Ruby's FBI polygraph indicated he lied when he said he was not part of a conspiracy, that someone impersonated Oswald in Mexico City weeks before the assassination, and that the Warren Commission's investigation was flawed and incomplete.

Actually, they found nothing of the sort. They only found that there was a question about an audio that purported to record additional shots.

Although the HSCA had prepared a draft report confirming the Warren Commission's single shooter theory and finding no evidence of conspiracy, at the eleventh hour, the committee was swayed by a since-disputed acoustic analysis of a dictabelt police channel recording.[1]: 495  This acoustic analysis of the dictabelt recording by the firm Bolt, Beranek and Newman Inc. concluded that four shots were fired at the president, thus causing the HSCA to reverse its earlier position and report "that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."[1]: 9  In terms of scientific evidence, the HSCA acknowledged that the existence of a second shooter was only supported by this acoustic analysis.[1]: 84 

As recommended by the HSCA, the Justice Department reviewed those findings through the FBI's Technical Services Division and by contracting the National Academy of Sciences, which specially appointed the Committee on Ballistic Acoustics (CBA). Both the FBI and CBA analyzed the acoustic data and BBN's scientific methodology and concluded that their findings were mistaken.[18][19] Although there has been some recent back-and-forth between different researchers, the HSCA's acoustic analysis is widely considered to be discredited.

And RFK Jr. is on very solid ground in doubting that Sirhan shot his father. I know you've read nothing on this case, either, but here's a summary of some of the problems with the case against Sirhan from my RFK assassination website:

Okay, guy, when it's on your crazy Mormon Website, we KNOW it's bullshit. Never met a crazy conspiracy theory you didn't love.

One of the world's leading experts on hypnosis, Dr. Daniel Brown of Harvard University, interviewed and tested Sirhan for years, and concluded that Sirhan was hypno-programmed to fire at RFK, and that this was why Sirhan had no memory of shooting RFK and why he could not remember several key periods of time leading up to the assassination. Dr. Brown provided a detailed report on his findings in his sworn statement for Sirhan's 2011 appeal (his statement is linked above in the Articles section under the title "Evidence that Sirhan Was Hypno-Programmed to Fire at RFK").

Hypno programmed? Are you fucking serious? That's a great plot for a comic book. Real life, it's kind of silly.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

"alternative reality" is where MikeGriffith1 lives

 

[JoeB131]

Here's a great one.

A running list of RFK Jr.'s controversies

The 2024 presidential candidate has had no shortage of scandals over the years

news.yahoo.com

Suggested Covid was designed to spare Jews and Chinese people​

In a video that surfaced in July 2023, Kennedy was caught claiming that Covid could have been a bioweapon designed to target and disproportionately attack "certain races," like Caucasians and Black people, and spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people, who he said are the "most immune" to the virus. "We don't know whether it was deliberately targeted or not," he said in the video, "but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact." He later insisted that he never "suggested that the Covid-19 virus was targeted to spare Jews" and was instead referring to a study that "serves as a kind of proof of concept for ethnically targeted bioweapons," per CNN.

Blamed gender dysphoria on chemicals in the environment​

Much like other conspiracy theorists, Kennedy has repeatedly alleged that exposure to chemicals — endocrine disruptors, namely — is causing gender dysphoria in children and contributing to a rise in LGBTQ+ youth. Per The Washington Examiner, endocrine disruptors are "chemicals that interfere with the body's hormones and are commonly found in pesticides and plastic." Speaking on a June 2022 episode of his podcast, Kennedy said he wants to "pursue just one question on these … endocrine disruptors" because "we're seeing these impacts that people suspect are very different than in ages past about sexual identification among children and sexual confusion, gender confusion." His comments were based on a study that found that one endocrine disruptor, in particular, can cause a small percentage of male frogs to become female, though experts say there is no evidence that such chemicals cause gender dysphoria in human children. A Kennedy spokesperson later said the remarks were "mischaracterized," and that his client was "merely suggesting that, given copious research on the effect

 

[JoeB131]

"alternative reality" is where MikeGriffith1 lives

Well, he's a Mormon.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I did not know that. Not all Mormon historians are conspiracy theory like him. Some great ones are Mike Quinn, Will Bagley, Richard Bushman, Christopher Blythe, Paul Reeve, Matthew Lawrence Harris, and Benjamin Park. Among minor Mormon historians are several more: Michael Scott Van Wagnen, Mel Johnson and Danny Jorgenson.

 

[JoeB131]

I did not know that. Not all Mormon historians are conspiracy theory like him. Some great ones are Mike Quinn, Will Bagley, Richard Bushman, Christopher Blythe, Paul Reeve, Matthew Lawrence Harris, and Benjamin Park. Among minor Mormon historians are several more: Michael Scott Van Wagnen, Mel Johnson and Danny Jorgenson.

Well, he is a little nutty.

Among his crazier opinions....

OJ is innocent.
The Rape of Nanking was exaggerated.
Japan was justified in bombing Pearl Harbor
TWA 800 was shot down by the US Navy.
Vietnam was a good idea
George McClellan was competent!
Joseph McCarthy was right about the government being rife with Commies.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Um, sorry, man, Oswald acted alone.

If you were organizing an assassination, you certainly wouldn't recruit a lifetime loser like Lee Harvard Oswald, a guy who failed at nearly everything he ever tried in life.

Actually, they found nothing of the sort. They only found that there was a question about an audio that purported to record additional shots.

Although the HSCA had prepared a draft report confirming the Warren Commission's single shooter theory and finding no evidence of conspiracy, at the eleventh hour, the committee was swayed by a since-disputed acoustic analysis of a dictabelt police channel recording.[1]: 495  This acoustic analysis of the dictabelt recording by the firm Bolt, Beranek and Newman Inc. concluded that four shots were fired at the president, thus causing the HSCA to reverse its earlier position and report "that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."[1]: 9  In terms of scientific evidence, the HSCA acknowledged that the existence of a second shooter was only supported by this acoustic analysis.[1]: 84 

As recommended by the HSCA, the Justice Department reviewed those findings through the FBI's Technical Services Division and by contracting the National Academy of Sciences, which specially appointed the Committee on Ballistic Acoustics (CBA). Both the FBI and CBA analyzed the acoustic data and BBN's scientific methodology and concluded that their findings were mistaken.[18][19] Although there has been some recent back-and-forth between different researchers, the HSCA's acoustic analysis is widely considered to be discredited.

So you went running to Wikipedia and liked what you found. Did it ever occur to you to check a different source? Do you usually rely on Wikipedia for your information? That would explain a lot. A few quick facts:

* The draft HSCA report that endorsed the single-shooter theory was only one of two early staff contingency drafts that was never even approved by the committee and was rejected when it was presented to the committee.

* The FBI and CBA "analyses" of the HSCA's BBN and WA acoustical studies were complete jokes that were done by non-acoustical experts. Not a single person involved in those amateurish studies was an acoustical scientist. Humm, why didn't the author of the Wikipedia article mention this crucial fact?

* The HSCA most certainly did not say that the only evidence that supported a second shooter was the acoustical evidence. No one who has read the HSCA report could make such a bogus claim. The HSCA cited a number of items of evidence that supported a second shooter.

* The majority of JFK assassination researchers accept the HSCA's acoustical evidence. It's only "widely considered to be discredited" among those who still accept the Warren Report.

* From 2017 to 2020, acoustical scientists at BBN reexamined the acoustical evidence and confirmed every finding of the original HSCA analysis (done by BBN and WA) and also refuted the key claim made by the CBA (NRC/NAS panel) regarding the alleged Decker crosstalk. See Dr. Josiah Thompson's 2021 book Last Second in Dallas for a detailed discussion of the new BBN research.

Read and learn, just for once:

The HSCA's Acoustical Evidence: Proof of a Second Gunman

Okay, guy, when it's on your crazy Mormon Website, we KNOW it's *$#(%. Never met a crazy conspiracy theory you didn't love.

LOL! How would you, a Communist and Mao lover, know anything about serious historical research? With all the laughable howlers that you have posted in this forum and for which you have been skewered, who in the world are you to be calling any theory "crazy"?

And, actually, there are only a few conspiracy theories that I accept. You, on the other hand, embrace all kinds of nutty conspiracy theories--you just don't call them conspiracy theories.

Hypno programmed? Are you *&$%^serious? That's a great plot for a comic book. Real life, it's kind of silly.

You see, this is the kind of ignorance I'm talking about. It's like what a Flat Earther says when faced with satellite photos of the Earth. Since you won't read anything that you know contradicts your hodge-podge alternative reality, you scoff at the known field of hypno-programming.

I take it you're oblivious to all the evidence that has emerged about the MK-ULTRA program, where CIA psychologists were able to hypnotize people into committing immoral acts that they would never commit under normal conditions, and where the people had no memory of what they did after they did them, right? This information began to come out in the 1970s, thanks to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. This is all news to you, I'm guessing.

I notice you simply ignored the fact that one of the world's leading experts on hypnosis, Dr. Daniel Brown of Harvard University, interviewed and tested Sirhan for years, and concluded that Sirhan was hypno-programmed to fire at RFK, and that this was why Sirhan had no memory of shooting RFK and why he could not remember several key periods of time leading up to the assassination. Dr. Brown provided a detailed report on his findings in his sworn statement for Sirhan's 2011 appeal. But, nah, never mind that, right? It's all just wild conspiracy fantasy, right?

Just for once, read/watch and educate yourself:

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Mike got emotional. He loves history. Forgive him.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Well, he is a little nutty.

Among his crazier opinions....

OJ is innocent.
The Rape of Nanking was exaggerated.
Japan was justified in bombing Pearl Harbor
TWA 800 was shot down by the US Navy.
Vietnam was a good idea
George McClellan was competent!
Joseph McCarthy was right about the government being rife with Commies.

LOL! Okay, so you consider these to be "crazier opinions"?! Here are some truly crazy opinions, all of which you have expressed in this forum:

-- Mao Tse Tung (one of the biggest mass murderers in human history) was a great leader who brought peace and stability to China.

-- Red China was less oppressive than Free China.

-- Joseph Stalin was a capable leader who did much good for the Russian people.

-- FDR wasn't keen to help the Soviet Union.

-- All Russia got out of her participation in the Pacific War was half of Sakhalin Island.

This is just a small sample of the bizarre claims you have posted in this forum.

Now, let's take a look at your list:

OJ is innocent.

Yeap, I do indeed believe that. I invited you to respond to two of my articles on the OJ case, but you declined to do so. The jury in OJ's criminal trial found him not guilty. A large segment of the black community still believes that OJ is innocent.

Polls show that about 68% of Americans believe OJ is guilty. How many Americans do you think believe Mao Tse Tung was a great leader who brought peace and stability to China?

The Rape of Nanking was exaggerated.

Well, well, so you've finally dropped the lie that I said the Nanking Massacre was "not that bad."

Anyway, many scholars argue that Iris Chang's claim that at least 300,000 Chinese were murdered in the Nanking Massacre is a severe exaggeration. The 300,000-plus figure was the invention of wartime Chinese propaganda.

And Iris Chang's comparison of the Nanking Massacre to the Holocaust was obscene, not to mention unfounded.

The primary sources on Nanking's population when the Japanese arrived overwhelmingly confirm the fact that there were no more than about 200,000-225,000 people left in Nanking before the massacre started. For the sake of others, here is a small part of the evidence that I presented to you on this point in our thread on the massacre:

Some of the considerable evidence that Nanking’s population was only around 200,000 when the Japanese occupied the city comes from the 1939 book Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone, prepared by Shuhsi Hsu, an adviser to the Nationalist Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and produced under the auspices of the Council of International Affairs in Chunking (which was then the Nationalist capital). Six of the documents mention the city’s population as of December 17 to December 27, and all six put the population at 200,000 (pp. 17-18, 20, 48-49; see also Shigenobu Tomisawa, Using Primary Sources to Clarify the Nanking Incident, p. 24, available at http://www.sdh-fact.com/CL02_1/57_S4.pdf)

Three additional sources support the 200,000 figure: (1) James Espy, vice-consul at the American Embassy, sent a report to the U.S. State Department shortly after the Japanese arrived and stated therein that Nanking’s population was 200,000 (IMTFE transcript, CE 328, p. 4468); (2) John Rabe likewise said the population was 200,000 soon after the city fell (The Good German of Nanking, p. 52); and (3) even Harold Timperly’s overtly anti-Japanese report on the events in Nanking, titled What War Means, put the city’s population at 200,000 as of December 24, nearly two weeks after the Japanese captured the city (pp. 22-23).

The obvious and crucial point is this: Since Nanking’s population was 150,000 to 200,000 as of late November, two weeks before the Japanese arrived, and was 200,000 as of December 21, eight days after the city fell, and was 221,000 in March, three months after the city fell, there is no way the Japanese killed 300,000 people in Nanking.

Japan was justified in bombing Pearl Harbor.

I realize that to you, a Maoist Communist and an FDR worshipper, the idea that Japan had valid reasons for bombing Pearl Harbor in response to FDR's draconian sanctions and provocations is unthinkable, not to mention the fact that admitting that Japan had valid cause to bomb Pearl Harbor is not the same thing as saying they should have done so or that they were morally right in doing so.

Quite a few people back then and now believe that FDR behaved unreasonably and recklessly in rejecting Japan's numerous peace offers and in refusing to lift his severe sanctions on Japan (yet he imposed no sanctions on the Soviet Union for its atrocious oppression of its own people in the 1930s and its rape of Eastern Europe in early 1945).

TWA 800 was shot down by the US Navy.

I don't take a position on who downed TWA 800, but I definitely reject the government's absurd explanation that a spark in the center fuel tank blew up the plane. Hundreds of witnesses, from several different locations, saw a missile streaking toward the plane just before it exploded.

Many relatives of the TWA 800 victims believe the U.S. Navy accidentally shot down the plane during a missile training exercise. As I said, I'm agnostic about who shot down the plane, but it is possible that the shootdown was a tragic accident during a military training exercise, an exercise that we know was taking place at the time. However, it is entirely plausible that radical Muslim terrorists shot down the plane. A radical Muslim group took credit for downing the airliner, but the Clinton administration ignored this fact.

My TWA 800 website

Vietnam was a good idea.

You're absolutely right that I believe the Vietnam War was a good idea, as do about 90% of the Vietnam veterans who have taken part in surveys on the issue, as do nearly all military historians who have written about the war, as do a sizable chunk of the American people even today.

But, naturally, to you, a Marxist Maoist, trying to prevent North Vietnam from raping and absorbing South Vietnam was a terrible idea, even a "crazy" idea.

George McClellan was competent!

LOL! You think this is a "crazy" idea? About half the country in 1864 believed that McClellan was not only a competent general but an outstanding general. Robert E. Lee said that McClellan was the best Union general he faced. Ulysses S. Grant praised McClellan's generalship, as did many other Union officers, including Robert Gould Shaw, George Armstrong Custer, George Meade, Henry Thomas, and Alan Pinkerton (the head of the Union Intelligence Service). Many scholars, including some military historians, have argued that McClellan was a very capable general. I'm guessing you're basing your position on Wikipedia.

Why don't you respond to my article on McClellan? Here it is:

Answering Some Criticisms of General George B. McClellan

Joseph McCarthy was right about the government being rife with Commies.

Well, of course a Marxist Maoist and FDR worshipper such as yourself is going to accept the liberal line that McCarthy never identified a single Communist, that everyone he accused was innocent, and that there was no serious Soviet penetration of the U.S. Government. Umm, heard of the Venona decrypts?

What you really mean by "crazy" is "unacceptable to liberals."

I know you have read next to nothing about McCarthy. I know you'll never read them, but for the sake of others, here are some scholarly books that defend McCarthy:

Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator, by Dr. Arthur Hermann.

Blacklisted By History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy, by M. Stanton Evans.

McCarthy and His Enemies, by William F. Buckley and Brent Bozell (available for free online: LINK).

Here's my website on McCarthy:

Senator Joseph McCarthy and "McCarthyism": What Are the Facts?

 

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Mike is loopy.

Move on, folks, nothing to see with him.