Zone1 Would it Have Been Acceptable For Mary to Abort Jesus?

Or... could it be that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus already has "Satan" working for Him to a degree........
For her.

Yes. Jesus is the Don and Satan is the hit woman, if you are fool enough to believe in the supernatural.

Job 2.3 is clear when it has God saying that Satan moved him to do evil without a just cause.
The Bible is also clear that all good and evil is created by God, for his pleasure.

Who can create anything more evil than a God who demands to be put as the most evil?
 
I've actually been wondering this myself a lot lately. If there are any Christians that are okay with abortion on here, what do you say about that? Or would it have been alright with you had Elizabeth decided to abort John the Baptist? If abortion existed back then that is.



The act of abortion is barbaric. Anyone committing that act makes the Pharisees look like a group of sweet Cub Scouts in comparison.
 
Jesus Christ --- definition. A good guy if only human. An evil God if 1/3 of the Trinity.

Proof that the Trinity Jesus is evil is that he reverses Yahweh's condemnation of us for our sins, takes our just rewards for our sins, thus taking our rewards from us. That is theft.

Right?
You don’t even make sense. Jesus gives rewards for keeping his commandments. Very easy to read in the New Testament. Jesus condemns sins and teaches not to sin. Such stupidity driven by hatred.
Now, I agree the mainstream concept of the Godhead is incorrect. It’s not one being shapeshifting into 2 other personages. The Godhead is 3 separate personages. The Father God, the Son God and the Holy Ghost God. They agree as One Godhead.
 
Jehovah is Jesus Christ. He came off His thrown from the right side of his Father, Elohim, the most high God the Father. He was born and died atoning for our sins. There is one Godhead.
You break the first commandment.

All for a half breed chimera that has to be alive before his mother was, space travel up to impregnate his own mother and return to the past to create her and the earth. How stupid does a myth have to get for the stupid to shed stupid supernatural beliefs?
 
You don’t even make sense. Jesus gives rewards for keeping his commandments. Very easy to read in the New Testament. Jesus condemns sins and teaches not to sin. Such stupidity driven by hatred.
Now, I agree the mainstream concept of the Godhead is incorrect. It’s not one being shapeshifting into 2 other personages. The Godhead is 3 separate personages. The Father God, the Son God and the Holy Ghost God. They agree as One Godhead.
Thanks for the garbage.

Yahweh and one of the Adams are depicted in this myth as androgynous. Remember Rib Woman?

Where, if not in Satan, did Yahweh's feminine side go?

Answer that or take your 6 balled male God and shove him.
 
Or... could it be that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus already has "Satan" working for Him to a degree........
.... so that Satan.... lured Hitler down into an extremely low and terrifying place in what a Roman Catholic might term "Purgatory" and a Baptist might term it "hell?"







He Saw Hitler in Hell & This Man in Heaven​


What a misinterpretation of Job. Satan isn’t working for the Father or the Son. Satan challenged the Godhead. The response stated that there are in fact righteous people who will keep the commandments and not lose sight of their eternal existence. Satan could have thrown people telling Job listen to soothsayers who preach near death experiences instead of prophet called by God.
 
Thanks for the garbage.

Yahweh and one of the Adams are depicted in this myth as androgynous. Remember Rib Woman?

Where, if not in Satan, did Yahweh's feminine side go?

Answer that or take your 6 balled male God and shove him.
Again, you make no sense. Or, you are just an ignorant slut. Because of her transgression she would bear children and it would not be easy. Even though it was the right choice in the plan of salvation. But again, Satan was not working for God. Just stupid.
 
Could not handle the question so went personal. Quite telling.

I am a loyal opposer, as the name I use here implies implies, stupid.

I leave embracing the Gods of inquisitions and jihads on you type.
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Typical. You cannot prove your claim so use reverse onus.

It is to those who make a positive claim to prove it.

It is impossible and a logical papacy for the other side to prove you right.

Step up, or be seen as a hypocrite.
 
The act of abortion is barbaric. Anyone committing that act makes the Pharisees look like a group of sweet Cub Scouts in comparison.
Not to mention Yahweh ordering the smashing of baby's heads on stones.

Then again, that prick tortured King David's baby for 6 days before finally killing him.

No one is more evil than Yahweh/Jesus.
 
No. Christians murdering other Christians.
So -- 0 --. Perhaps.

The biblical definition agrees with the notion that there are no Christians.

It says any of those with faith or belief could do what Jesus did and more.

No Christians here so far.
 
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Typical. You cannot prove your claim so use reverse onus.

It is to those who make a positive claim to prove it.

It is impossible and a logical papacy for the other side to prove you right.

Step up, or be seen as a hypocrite.
You are the hypocrite. Making statements you can’t prove.
 
Well, there's this little thing called "evidence". If there is a life after death, it would be pretty consistent during near-death experiences. But the thing is, Christians who have NDE's meet Jesus. Muslims who have NDE meet Mohammed, and Buddhists meet the Buddha.
That’s nice. What I said is there is probably no life after death the way you would picture it.

Personally I don’t give life after death much thought. I’m too busy living life. But you go right ahead arguing with yourself about it.
 
Well, there's this little thing called "evidence". If there is a life after death, it would be pretty consistent during near-death experiences. But the thing is, Christians who have NDE's meet Jesus. Muslims who have NDE meet Mohammed, and Buddhists meet the Buddha.



Okay, let's look at that.

The Babylonian Talmud was written about 500 AD, well after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire. So it has no real value.

If you look at the historians closest to Jesus' life, it becomes a lot more questionable. The main ones that are cited are Tacitus and Josephus, and even they wrote a half-century after the event. Now, given we have no actual contemporary copies of Tacitus of Josephus. We have copies that were copied by Christian monks, centuries after the fact.

The passages about Jesus in Josephus are clearly add-ons by later Christian Scholars.

Tacitus is a bit more problematic. He mentions that Christians were persecuted by Nero for the Great Fire of Rome. Yet the passage looks like it was just added in there and don't really fit with the rest of the narrative about Nero.

Want more evidence?

Dio Cassius, the third great historian of the Early Empire, makes no references to Christians at all. While Suetonius says Claudius expelled the Jews from Rome because of the Instigations of one "Chrestus", he makes no mention of Christians in relation to the Great Fire, either.

FURTHERMORE, we have a letter from Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan, asking what to do with Christians in his province. Trajan responded with an effective "Don't ask, don't tell" approach towards them. Now, if these were the people who supposedly set fire to Rome 60 years earlier, Pliny sure as hell would know who they were, and Trajan wouldn't have been nearly so leniant.
And yet the Jews documented in the Babylonian Talmud that Jesus was put to death for performing miracles and claiming to be equal to God and non-Christian historians recorded the first Christians worship Jesus as God. Just as the NT gospels recorded.
 
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