Will the United States again respect Science?

[Staidhup]

Everyone agrees the world’s climate is getting warmer, same as it has been for the past several thousands of years, however the question is can “MAN” reverse or stall natural evolution? Think not. Don’t forget man as a species is a parasite which in this case may lead to killing of the host, otherwise evolutionary in nature.

 

[Concerned American]

There is real science and there is democrat science. Only a fool would take democrat science seriously.

There is only science. It is non-partisan and non-political..at least..until the politicians and partisans get a-hold of it.

Republican 'science' is not a good look either...climate change deniers are among some of the stupidest people I've ever met.

There is only ONE science. Just because someone says "follow the science" does not make it science. Did they follow proper scientific method? Did they come up with a theory or a fact. What I have seen is a resounding NO. They have presented a bunch of statistics and assigned what they ASSUME is the reason without sorting all the possible answers and testing each one. In other words "Stupid, knee jerk reactions that have NO basis in SCIENCE. I would suggest studies that actually deal in science. Climate change is real. There have been many instances of it in this planet's history. Was it created by man, hell no. He undoubtedly helped it along, but unless we have a mass extermination, there is nothing man can do to reverse it. Learn to think critically, everyone has an agenda.

 

[schmidlap]

My education and actual professional experience in the U.S. also has resulted in my respect for analytical data and my lack of confidence in consensus in its paid-off "expert" objective analysis.
I've been in the real world for 40 years and I know who to talk to to know how studies are actually carried out.

The principle difference between the majority that respects the science and the minority that denies it is ideological.

That does not imply that the divide between the 197 nations that are signatories to the Paris Accord and Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Libya, Angola, Sudan, Yemen, Eritrea and Trump is ideological, of course.

As best I can tell, none of the nations that align with Trump believe his claim that global warming "was created by and for the Chinese
in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

 

[schmidlap]

What's the downside to being unable to convince the world that we're "serious" on climate?

Surrendering leadership to China empowers China to extend its international influence in multiple respects - which some, apparently, applaud.

In the economic sphere, U.S. technological potential is deprived of an incentive, a world market for clean energy that demands innovation.

Don't give up hope for the U.S., however. Serious damage has been inflicted by the ideologists, but all is not lost:

... More and more people are seeing climate change as a scientific, ethical, and moral issue rather than a political one. Many Republicans are realizing what an important issue climate is - for this election and the future - and in some instances, the partisan divide is gradually beginning to fade.

Republicans And Democrats Can Agree When It Comes To Climate Change

Becoming engaged with the narrative of climate change helps people to care - and to do something - independent of political leaning.

www.forbes.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What's the downside to being unable to convince the world that we're "serious" on climate?

Surrendering leadership to China empowers China to extend its international influence in multiple respects - which some, apparently, applaud.

In the economic sphere, U.S. technological potential is deprived of an incentive, a world market for clean energy that demands innovation.

Don't give up hope for the U.S., however. Serious damage has been inflicted by the ideologists, but all is not lost:

... More and more people are seeing climate change as a scientific, ethical, and moral issue rather than a political one. Many Republicans are realizing what an important issue climate is - for this election and the future - and in some instances, the partisan divide is gradually beginning to fade.

Republicans And Democrats Can Agree When It Comes To Climate Change

Becoming engaged with the narrative of climate change helps people to care - and to do something - independent of political leaning.

www.forbes.com

Surrendering leadership to China empowers China to extend its international influence in multiple respects - which some, apparently, applaud.

Why would China have leadership?
They emit more CO2 than anyone and aren't reducing emissions anytime soon.

More and more people are seeing climate change as a scientific, ethical, and moral issue rather than a political one.

How many see it as a financial issue?

 

[JimH52]

Yes, you will never heard Biden say COVID is miraculously going away. You will never hear Biden suggest shooting Clorox in your arm might be a COVID cure. You will hear Biden tell Americans to listen to the Doctors and the Scientist. You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

It will be nice to have an Intelligent, Compassionate, Literate President again.

GONNA BE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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[Meister]

Yes, you will never heard Biden say COVID is miraculously going away. You will never hear Biden suggest shooting Clorox in your arm might be a COVID cure. You will hear Biden tell Americans to listen to the Doctors and the Scientist. You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

It will be nice to have an Intelligent, Compassionate, Literate President again.

GONNA BE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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It all comes down to which scientists, which doctors, and what YOU think constitutes literate. idiot

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

All 200 million.

 

[JimH52]

Yes, you will never heard Biden say COVID is miraculously going away. You will never hear Biden suggest shooting Clorox in your arm might be a COVID cure. You will hear Biden tell Americans to listen to the Doctors and the Scientist. You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

It will be nice to have an Intelligent, Compassionate, Literate President again.

GONNA BE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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Yes, Meister ...I know you are miserable. I am so sorry for you. But try to not cry on Christmas morning.....for the kids.

 

[Meister]

Yes, you will never heard Biden say COVID is miraculously going away. You will never hear Biden suggest shooting Clorox in your arm might be a COVID cure. You will hear Biden tell Americans to listen to the Doctors and the Scientist. You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

It will be nice to have an Intelligent, Compassionate, Literate President again.

GONNA BE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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Yes, Meister ...I know you are miserable. I am so sorry for you. But try to not cry on Christmas morning.....for the kids.

That misery is something YOU felt for the last 4 years.
I'm not miserable, I know there will be another election in 2024, Jim.
As for the doctors and scientists, there are an equal number that are just as qualified that say the opposite of
what the political hacks are saying.
Enjoy the Christmas Holidays, Jim.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, you will never heard Biden say COVID is miraculously going away.

That's good, we won't have a President that will give people hope. That will do wonders for the economy.

You will never hear Biden suggest shooting Clorox in your arm might be a COVID cure.

We don't have one now.

You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

Why hasn't he done so yet?

It will be nice to have an Intelligent, Compassionate, Literate President again.

It would be, but you voted for Biden, a person that promises to drive jobs out of the country, a person that promises to dramatically drive up our energy costs, a person that vows to spend us further in a hole for more commie Social programs.

 

[Concerned American]

Yes, you will never heard Biden say COVID is miraculously going away. You will never hear Biden suggest shooting Clorox in your arm might be a COVID cure. You will hear Biden tell Americans to listen to the Doctors and the Scientist. You will hear Biden express his sorrow and condolence over the thousands of Americans who have died.

It will be nice to have an Intelligent, Compassionate, Literate President again.

GONNA BE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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Enjoy it in your basement by yourself, idiot.

 

[Flash]

These stupid uneducated Libtards need to understand that there are only two genders, that a fetus is a human being and this AGW bullshit is a scam. Then we can talk about real science.

 

[schmidlap]

Surrendering leadership to China empowers China to extend its international influence in multiple respects - which some, apparently, applaud.

Why would China have leadership?
They emit more CO2 than anyone and aren't reducing emissions anytime soon.

More and more people are seeing climate change as a scientific, ethical, and moral issue rather than a political one.

How many see it as a financial issue?

The U.S. abdicating global leadership in confronting climate change is creating both a power void and an added economic incentive for China to clean up its act and sell green technology to developing nations. With dependence upon Chinese technology comes China's increased political influence.

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A study from the Chinese University of Hong Kong found air pollution in China is a $38 billion drag on the economy when factoring in the impact on public health and reduced crop yields. Moreover, a 2018 University of Chicago report found that if the Chinese government sustains the pollution reductions it made from 2013-2017, the average Chinese citizen would see their life expectancy increase by 2.3 years. The environment continues to be the largest source of protests in China.​

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Then there is the opportunity that comes from developing new markets. According to a 2015 study by Goldman Sachs, China’s demand for environmental goods and services could be upward of $1 trillion. This could spell big profits for foreign and domestic companies alike particularly as China’s economy slows.​

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China cannot afford to lose momentum in its effort to create a low-carbon economy. An immediate first step and a bold move would be to reduce all tariffs and not-tariff barriers on environmental products and services for foreign firms. This would stimulate growth and job creation. In addition, it should bring its guidelines for defining green investments in line with global standards and not definite coal-related industries as green. Increasingly investors are seeking to make green investments but need the confidence that they are in fact green. Promoting and defining green finance could help offset the difficult transition China is experiencing as it tries to wean off its reliance on coal.​

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Is China Still the Global Leader on Climate Change?

The world’s success in bringing down global greenhouse gas emissions is dependent on the actions of China, the world’s largest carbon emitter.

thediplomat.com

 

[Indeependent]

Surrendering leadership to China empowers China to extend its international influence in multiple respects - which some, apparently, applaud.

Why would China have leadership?
They emit more CO2 than anyone and aren't reducing emissions anytime soon.

More and more people are seeing climate change as a scientific, ethical, and moral issue rather than a political one.

How many see it as a financial issue?

The U.S. abdicating global leadership in confronting climate change is creating both a power void and an added economic incentive for China to clean up its act and sell green technology to developing nations. With dependence upon Chinese technology comes China's increased political influence.

​

A study from the Chinese University of Hong Kong found air pollution in China is a $38 billion drag on the economy when factoring in the impact on public health and reduced crop yields. Moreover, a 2018 University of Chicago report found that if the Chinese government sustains the pollution reductions it made from 2013-2017, the average Chinese citizen would see their life expectancy increase by 2.3 years. The environment continues to be the largest source of protests in China.​

​

Then there is the opportunity that comes from developing new markets. According to a 2015 study by Goldman Sachs, China’s demand for environmental goods and services could be upward of $1 trillion. This could spell big profits for foreign and domestic companies alike particularly as China’s economy slows.​

​

China cannot afford to lose momentum in its effort to create a low-carbon economy. An immediate first step and a bold move would be to reduce all tariffs and not-tariff barriers on environmental products and services for foreign firms. This would stimulate growth and job creation. In addition, it should bring its guidelines for defining green investments in line with global standards and not definite coal-related industries as green. Increasingly investors are seeking to make green investments but need the confidence that they are in fact green. Promoting and defining green finance could help offset the difficult transition China is experiencing as it tries to wean off its reliance on coal.​

​

Is China Still the Global Leader on Climate Change?

The world’s success in bringing down global greenhouse gas emissions is dependent on the actions of China, the world’s largest carbon emitter.

thediplomat.com

The US is one of the youngest countries in earth.
Why can’t these lame ass nations that have been around for 1,000 years accomplish anything without the US paying for it?

 

[schmidlap]

The US is one of the youngest countries in earth.
Why can’t these lame ass nations that have been around for 1,000 years accomplish anything without the US paying for it?

As a matter of record, the United States' rise to preeminence and prosperity was largely aided and abetted by self-benefitting interaction with the international community, commerce but one sphere to promote self-interests.

Given the global interdependence of today, retreating into the Middle Kingdom's 15th-19th century isolationism is not advisable.

 

[Indeependent]

The US is one of the youngest countries in earth.
Why can’t these lame ass nations that have been around for 1,000 years accomplish anything without the US paying for it?

As a matter of record, the United States' rise to preeminence and prosperity was largely aided and abetted by self-benefitting interaction with the international community, commerce but one sphere to promote self-interests.

Given the global interdependence of today, retreating into the Middle Kingdom's 15th-19th century isolationism is not advisable.

Question...
Why does the US have to pay another nation’s bills?
Answer without rhetoric.

 

[schmidlap]

Why does the US have to pay another nation’s bills?
Answer without rhetoric.

Which nations?

Advanced nations, the U.S. included, provide humanitarian aid to poor ones, and the U.S. also provides aid to advanced ones - Israel, for instance. If it is the latter that concerns you, this should be of help: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL3... in missile defense appropriations) to Israel.

 

[Indeependent]

Why does the US have to pay another nation’s bills?
Answer without rhetoric.

Which nations?

Advanced nations, the U.S. included, provide humanitarian aid to poor ones, and the U.S. also provides aid to advanced ones - Israel, for instance. If it is the latter that concerns you, this should be of help: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL3... in missile defense appropriations) to Israel.

If a nation is constantly paying another nation’s bills because it’s citizens are always starving, let them starve because the starving people are not the ones getting the aid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Surrendering leadership to China empowers China to extend its international influence in multiple respects - which some, apparently, applaud.

Why would China have leadership?
They emit more CO2 than anyone and aren't reducing emissions anytime soon.

More and more people are seeing climate change as a scientific, ethical, and moral issue rather than a political one.

How many see it as a financial issue?

The U.S. abdicating global leadership in confronting climate change is creating both a power void and an added economic incentive for China to clean up its act and sell green technology to developing nations. With dependence upon Chinese technology comes China's increased political influence.

​

A study from the Chinese University of Hong Kong found air pollution in China is a $38 billion drag on the economy when factoring in the impact on public health and reduced crop yields. Moreover, a 2018 University of Chicago report found that if the Chinese government sustains the pollution reductions it made from 2013-2017, the average Chinese citizen would see their life expectancy increase by 2.3 years. The environment continues to be the largest source of protests in China.​

​

Then there is the opportunity that comes from developing new markets. According to a 2015 study by Goldman Sachs, China’s demand for environmental goods and services could be upward of $1 trillion. This could spell big profits for foreign and domestic companies alike particularly as China’s economy slows.​

​

China cannot afford to lose momentum in its effort to create a low-carbon economy. An immediate first step and a bold move would be to reduce all tariffs and not-tariff barriers on environmental products and services for foreign firms. This would stimulate growth and job creation. In addition, it should bring its guidelines for defining green investments in line with global standards and not definite coal-related industries as green. Increasingly investors are seeking to make green investments but need the confidence that they are in fact green. Promoting and defining green finance could help offset the difficult transition China is experiencing as it tries to wean off its reliance on coal.​

​

Is China Still the Global Leader on Climate Change?

The world’s success in bringing down global greenhouse gas emissions is dependent on the actions of China, the world’s largest carbon emitter.

thediplomat.com

The U.S. abdicating global leadership in confronting climate change is creating both a power void and an added economic incentive for China to clean up its act and sell green technology to developing nations.

So if we lead, China WON'T clean up it's act?