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Why should they excommunicate him and exactly who has he demonstrated hate towards?Biden should be excommunicated and indicted for HATE ...he hates whites ...he's destroying the US
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why should they excommunicate him and exactly who has he demonstrated hate towards?Biden should be excommunicated and indicted for HATE ...he hates whites ...he's destroying the US
I think it's you who has hate for democrats.
How is he destroying the US ? I'll bet you have no answers for any of those questions. No one hates like republicans. And such good Christians too. But you must have unique dispensation to hate democrats. Does your God approve of you hating democrats?
Just as I thought. It's you is the problem.
Dems and blacks are the racists that HATEWhy should they excommunicate him and exactly who has he demonstrated hate towards?Biden should be excommunicated and indicted for HATE ...he hates whites ...he's destroying the US
I think it's you who has hate for democrats.
How is he destroying the US ? I'll bet you have no answers for any of those questions. No one hates like republicans. And such good Christians too. But you must have unique dispensation to hate democrats. Does your God approve of you hating democrats?
Just as I thought. It's you is the problem.
There are very few formal excommunications. For many Catholics, of all parties, President Biden excommunicated himself a long time ago, but still goes through the motions. Many Catholics believe we stand for something, and life being out greatest gift is at the top of the list. For the Catholic Church to embrace and highlight someone who does not make this a priority goes against everything Catholic.Why should they excommunicate him and exactly who has he demonstrated hate towards?
Very interesting to hear where you stand on this question. As I suspected when I saw your name, you are taking a position as a catholic that goes farther than the church would ever dare to go.There are very few formal excommunications. For many Catholics, of all parties, President Biden excommunicated himself a long time ago, but still goes through the motions. Many Catholics believe we stand for something, and life being out greatest gift is at the top of the list. For the Catholic Church to embrace and highlight someone who does not make this a priority goes against everything Catholic.Why should they excommunicate him and exactly who has he demonstrated hate towards?
Excommunication does not mean a person cannot attend Mass or Church rites. It means he may not receive the Sacraments.
In many respects, Mr. Biden has done whatever is convenient for him throughout his life. This is fine, but he should also recognize there is a standard, and should be a price when those standards are not met. For the Church to say a President or ruler of any kind does not need to meet the standards they call the man-in-the-street to live by is gross hypocrisy. Speaker Pelosi should be formally excommunicated at the same time.
I hope not, but I suspect we will see Church bowing to State, and that is not a good thing for America, no matter where we stand politically.
Excommunication does not mean a person cannot attend Mass or Church rites. It means he may not receive the Sacraments.
I hope not, but I suspect we will see Church bowing to State, and that is not a good thing for America, no matter where we stand politically.
Shrug. It appears you know only half the story about Nazism, but it is true the Church doesn't condemn a national government. Donald Trump is not Catholic, so again outside the parameters.The catholic church will always maintain a position that is politically correct for the masses at the moment, as it did with it's support of Nazism, and will do so with Pelosi and Biden, and even Trump.
The trouble is that it is not all cut and dry. The Church also strongly believes in free will. Therefore if a Catholic politician says, "Abortion is not a choice I would ever make, but I believe everyone else should be free to make their choice..." has always been away around the issue for Catholic politicians. However, being part of an abortion (funding it with taxpayer money) has been a line the government--up to now--has been careful not to cross.Is there any evidence from the past that could suggest a catholic political leader not receiving the sacraments for his position on abortion? (or birth control or any other issue that can make the list?)
Whatever it is? Maybe best to ask you why you think that Biden might not receive them? Pelosi too if you feel the motivation?
Or all Democrats, if it can be assumed that it's the abortion issue that's condemning them?
US Catholic bishops may press Biden to stop taking Communion
When U.S. Catholic bishops hold their next national meeting in June, they’ll be deciding whether to send a tougher-than-ever message to President Joe Biden and other Catholic politicians: Don’t receive Communion if you persist in public advocacy of abortion rights. At issue is a document that...www.yahoo.com
Apparently the Catholic church is debating on whether to serve Biden communion due to his stance on abortion
Bishop John Stowe of Lexington, Kentucky, is among those who worry the USCCB’s emphasis on abortion undercuts Pope Francis’ exhortations also to stress issues such as climate change, immigration and inequality. Stowe also worries that the U.S. bishops are missing a chance to find common ground with Biden.
“If a politician is targeted as a negative example by his own church, that sets a sad context in which the church can deal with this Catholic president,” Stowe said. “It contributes to the polarization of the church and of society.”
Nonetheless, the bishops wanting to send a tough message to Biden are determined to press ahead.
This tells me that either the church does not believe it to be mass genocide like their official teaching says it is, that is, comparable to the Holocaust, or they have no conscience.
It's either or really.
^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why should they excommunicate him and exactly who has he demonstrated hate towards?Biden should be excommunicated and indicted for HATE ...he hates whites ...he's destroying the US
I think it's you who has hate for democrats.
How is he destroying the US ? I'll bet you have no answers for any of those questions. No one hates like republicans. And such good Christians too. But you must have unique dispensation to hate democrats. Does your God approve of you hating democrats?
Just as I thought. It's you is the problem.
1. ever since he got elected he has UNDENIABLY has shown hate towards whites [ be careful how you answer to that so that you don't look silly ]
WHITE SUPREMACY//white this white that
HATE of cops!! law and order
2. hahahhahaha--destroying the US
unchecked immigration!!!!! giving out tax $$$$$$ over and over [ paying people to stay home and not work = this is an EXPONENTIAL deal that is fking up the US ]
DIVIDING the country
etc
--and I'm not a christian or believer --you fkd up--HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Again, if it is a matter of standing back and allowing each person to make their own decision, that's one thing. If they are pushing abortions, that the other.Or all Democrats, if it can be assumed that it's the abortion issue that's condemning them?
He need to be thrown out of that church. I'm not Catholic and I have more in common with them than that "devout catholic" does. He and Nancy Pelosi need to be removed. The Church is no place for those who have nothing but contempt for its teachings.
Your church is definitely standing back, for some reason or another? Is it out of love for Biden, Pelosi, and all people who accept abortion or is it out of fear of losing half of it's flock?Again, if it is a matter of standing back and allowing each person to make their own decision, that's one thing. If they are pushing abortions, that the other.Or all Democrats, if it can be assumed that it's the abortion issue that's condemning them?
I'll catch you up. There were twelve apostles, and one betrayed Jesus. One-twelfth. Then there are the lapses such as denying Jesus or doubting him. We all have our lapses. What I keep in mind is that the Church will be wrong 1/12 of the time, and on some pretty major issues.You, on the other hand can quickly condemn politicians for their politics. Is your condemnation of your church's position of not speaking out against Biden or Pelosi somehow you taking the high road when your church will not?
Ordinary Catholics also take the position that he should be denied the Sacraments. Naturally, he is still welcome at Mass and other Church Rites. However, his position pushing/funding abortion crosses the line. The average Catholic will recall Jesus position that no one should serve two masters because he will come to love one and hate the other. President Biden is going to have to make a choice of which Master he will serve. And maybe some ordinary Catholics will have to make this choice as well.Biden is the president of a secular nation and a devout Catholic. The Catholic church may deny him communion, but ordinary Catholics won't.
Church teaching has always been life is our greatest gift. When abortion is not an issue in society, then authorities have no need to address it.There were no Christian rules about abortion until the 3rd or 4th century.. and no rules against it in the US until the late 1800s. There are many reasons for a woman not to carry a pregnancy to term. Should be left to her, her husband, her doctor and her pastor if she is so inclined. You can't force your beliefs on others and comparing the termination of a pregnancy to the Holocaust is viscious stupidity.
Again, with Nazism it was the position that the country held an election and gave the nod to Hitler. Notice when Jews began being persecuted Pope John XXIII and many others did lend a hand in protecting those they could. The Church seems to have less ability than Switzerland to remain completely neutral. Do you also condemn the Swiss for their neutrality?With it's support of Nazism we know that it was taking the safe road, right? And so it's excusable.
Disagree. The reason Pope Paul VI would not approve artificial birth control is because he could see down the line to the next step, which is what happens when birth control fails? He saw abortion coming and he pushed back with considerable strength. While Pope Paul VI is by no means my favorite Pope, I greatly admire his stance on this.There's obviously an urgent need for the catholic church to accept abortion conditionally. There's also the same need on the birth control issue, but it's already started to sneak that one in the back door and so that's a foregone conclusion.
On abortion, it's a difficult question for the catholic church because the Republican party that represents at least a hundred million Americans is not open to compromise.
Within the near future the catholic church will make a quiet appeal to America's Republican party to accept very limited abortion. This will be acceptable to the flock as easily as it was for them to accept evolution at the expense of the creation myth. Only abortion will become acceptable on humanitarian grounds.
The entire 'motherhood' issue is going to be questioned if the church allows a woman to suffer death for religious purposes.