why was the "thief" being crucified?
Zone1 What makes Christianity different from other religions?
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What difference does it make? People were flogged, imprisoned, enslaved, and crucified for trivial reasons daily. Maybe he was hungry. Maybe he stole bread? Maybe he gave a centurion the finger? Maybe he farted in church?
Maybe he wasn't even a thief?
Who can say?
In Roman ruled Judea the only people crucified were those guilty of sedition against Rome.
In Jewish law thievery is not a capital crime. The book is supposed to MAKE SENSE. For
the record-----hanging children for stealing bread was a British thing
But you were asking about a scene in a play referencing a brutal time of Roman oppression in Jewish history.
And no, the book is not supposed to make sense. It was written by unknown authors who witnessed the destruction of Judea, the temple, their way of life, and the enslavement, exile, and ruthless slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Jewish men woman and children. Every contradiction or fantastical story in scripture is like a giant red X on a treasure map marking the exact place where something of great value was buried and hidden.
I think of the Gospels as the first century equivalent of the nuclear option, uploaded into the belly of the beast.
"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."
"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it THEY WILL VOMIT AND GO MAD, SUCH IS THE SWORD THAT I AM SENDING AMONG THEM"
"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."
Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou has given them blood to drink.
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uhm...........thanks for your response------how do you think a Catholic priest would answer my question?But you were asking about a scene in a play referencing a brutal time of Roman oppression in Jewish history.
And no, the book is not supposed to make sense. It was written by unknown authors who witnessed the destruction of Judea, the temple, their way of life, and the enslavement, exile, and ruthless slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Jewish men woman and children. Every contradiction or fantastical story in scripture is like a giant read X on a treasure map marking the exact place where something of great value was buried and hidden.
I think of the Gospels as the first century equivalent of the nuclear option, uploaded into the belly of the beast.
"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."
"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it THEY WILL VOMIT AND GO MAD, Such is the sword that I am sending among them."
"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."
Just art thou in these thy judgments thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou has given them blood to drink.
You have to just believe? (without ruminating) Thinking logically is demonic? Would you like wine and a cracker?
I prefer vodka. Wine gives me a headache and Scotch makes me sick. just BELIEVE??? like the
book is a greek play? like the 'furies' went after orestes ? I kinda like that play
Well, one does have to suspend disbelief to not notice how many contradictions remain in plain sight.
Christianity is effectively a sect of Judaism that believe God so loved man that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and suffer death to reconcile justice with mercy.
You’ll never change your life until you take accountability for it. Christianity is not to blame for your life.
Don't be sad. Would it also make you sad to realize that Adam and Eve were not the first humans when you read that when their children wanted to find a mate they went to a city? Isn't that like a big clue in a riddle?
When did Christians begin worshipping Jesus as God and why?
Christianity is a Roman sect.
Jealousy -----the Romans have always been Jealous of the Greeks----The Greeks had a
"man-god" ----PROMETHEUS------and then there was HERCULES
I disagree. Jesus and his earliest followers were Jewish, and the initial Christian movement was a Jewish sect.
The first Christians were Jews who lived during the time of Jesus and worshipped him as God because of the miracles he performed and witnessed his resurrection.
Truth is that modern Reform Judaism more closely resembles early Christianity than anything your church does.
Don’t care. All I care about is the historical evidence for when Jesus was first worshipped as God and why.
the "followers" mentioned in the Roman book were not christianized during the lifetime
of Jesus. The Christianization was POSTHUMOUS. The idea of POSTHUMOUS
christianization CAUGHT ON-----now the Mormons so engage extensively
While comforting to rival religions, it doesn’t explain why Jews began worshipping Jesus as God.
And yet Jews began worshipping Jesus because of what they witnessed.
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