Zone1 The Handmaid's Tale: A Perversion of Christianity

[Hafar1014]

My preferred solution would be to send the Zionists back to Europe so the Islamic world isn't riled up.

But that's too logical for the religious crazies.



Why is it our war?

We didn't vote for war.

Trump ran specifically on the "I won't start any more wars in the Middle East" platform.

Then Bibi threatened to release the Epstein pictures.

As far as fanatics having weapons of mass destruction, only one nation has ever used nukes on people.

That would be us. Against a country that had already been defeated and was desperately seeking surrender terms.

But here's the thing. We had a perfectly good treaty with Iran to prevent them from getting nukes.

Trump tore it up because it had Obama's signature on it.

Trump is ending a war caused by Carter

 

[hadit]

Okay, so here's the thing. Why did God make some people gay or trans if it's a sin. That seems unfair.

Ooh, ooh, I know this one!

I was born a heterosexual male with the inclination to have sex with as many females as possible, aka sin. I was born with the inclination to live selfishly for myself, aka sin.

We ALL are born with the inclination to sin, and homosexuality is no greater or lesser a sin than is adultery or fornication, it's just less accepted in society. Therefore, it is disingenuous to complain that someone is unfairly created homosexual. The church does a disservice to treat the practicing homosexual any differently than the adulterer or fornicator.

 

[Hafar1014]

Ooh, ooh, I know this one!

I was born a heterosexual male with the inclination to have sex with as many females as possible, aka sin. I was born with the inclination to live selfishly for myself, aka sin.

We ALL are born with the inclination to sin, and homosexuality is no greater or lesser a sin than is adultery or fornication, it's just less accepted in society. Therefore, it is disingenuous to complain that someone is unfairly created homosexual. The church does a disservice to treat the practicing homosexual any differently than the adulterer or fornicator.

Homosexuality is normal.

 

[ding]

My preferred solution would be to send the Zionists back to Europe so the Islamic world isn't riled up.

No one cares what you want. It will be what it will be and I'm almost certain under any scenario you'll find something to complain about. It's who you are.

But that's too logical for the religious crazies.

You strike me as someone who is driven by emotion, not logic. Be careful about throwing stones from your glass house.

 

[ding]

Homosexuality is normal.

Incorrect. "Normal" is male and female pairs.

Normal refers to conforming to a standard, pattern, or average; it means usual, regular, or typical, and not abnormal. It describes things that fit within expected limits, such as behavior, physical state, or measurements. Synonyms include conventional, standard, ordinary, and customary.

 

[Hafar1014]

Incorrect. "Normal" is male and female pairs.

Normal refers to conforming to a standard, pattern, or average; it means usual, regular, or typical, and not abnormal. It describes things that fit within expected limits, such as behavior, physical state, or measurements. Synonyms include conventional, standard, ordinary, and customary.

Homosexuality is a normal aspect of human sexuality and defined as not a disorder by The American Psychological Association.

 

[ding]

Homosexuality is a normal aspect of human sexuality

Also incorrect. Homosexuality is an aspect of human sexuality.

and defined as not a disorder by The American Psychological Association.

I never said homosexuality is a disorder. But it's funny how you want to use the APA's findings on homosexuality but not transgenderism. Pick a lane.

 

[hadit]

Homosexuality is normal.

So is the desire to have sex with as many women as possible. That doesn't, however, eliminate the sin, as "normal" =/= holy.

 

[Hafar1014]

So is the desire to have sex with as many women as possible. That doesn't, however, eliminate the sin, as "normal" =/= holy.

We have preprogramed instincts that are controlled by morals. To be gay is caused by genetics and does serve a purpose. It can limit population growth and also many can and do have children. They also make great adoptive parents. We cant find anything in psychology to see them as disordered.

 

[hadit]

We have preprogramed instincts that are controlled by morals. To be gay is caused by genetics and does serve a purpose. It can limit population growth and also many can and do have children. They also make great adoptive parents. We cant find anything in psychology to see them as disordered.

We're talking two different things, psychology and sin. Homosexuality is not a psychological disease, it's an inclination. Sin, OTOH, is a completely different thing altogether. Being inclined to have sex with your same gender is a temptation, not a sin, so a non-practicing homosexual male is in the same boat as a heterosexual male who wants to have sex with as many women as possible but does not act on that desire. The church does a disservice to treat homosexuals as if they are much greater sinners than the married man in the pew who has an affair with his secretary.

 

[ding]

We have preprogramed instincts that are controlled by morals.

Not morals. Discipline. It takes discipline to control our animalistic urges and impulses.

To be gay is caused by genetics

For some. For some it's obviously that way. For others, not so much. For those it is a preference. Preferences can change. But if being gay is genetic, then so is transgenderism and pedophilia.

and does serve a purpose. It can limit population growth

I'm sure they must find that consoling.

and also many can and do have children.

Now you are contradicting yourself.

They also make great adoptive parents.

It's better for a child to have a mother and a father; a male and female role model.

We cant find anything in psychology to see them as disordered.

If you feel that way about homosexuals then you should feel that way about the transgendered.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump is ending a war caused by Carter

Not at all.

Iran had every right to depose the Shah.

We've essentially been punishing this country for 47 years for picking a form of government we don't like.

And because they terrify the Jews, not because of anything they can do militarily, but because they are a populist state, unlike the corrupt monarchies and despots in the rest of the region who can be bought off.

 

[ding]

Trump tore it up because it had Obama's signature on it.

Bibi threatened to release the Epstein pictures.

Seems like you might want to pick a lane.

 

[JoeB131]

Seems like you might want to pick a lane.

Not at all.

BOth of those statements are true.

He exited JCPAO out of spite for Obama.
He's continuing this foolish and unnecessary war because he can't stand up to Bibi

 

[Votto]

I began watching The Handmaid's Tale recently (yes, I'm late to the series). I have always loved dystopian stories, and this one features great storytelling and world-building.

But Gilead is a perversion of Christianity, and uses the faith only as a tool to control society.

Notably in season one is the use of fertile handmaids to give wives babies. To justify this, Gilead quotes the Old Testament women who had their husbands sleep with their servants in order to give them children.

But the flaw is this: just because the Bible RECORDS it doesn't mean the Bible ENDORSES it. Nowhere did God give this decree, which is adultery. The idea stemmed solely from desperate women. Once the deed is done, God can use sinful people and even sinful actions to His end. But He did not either command or endorse the sin.

This fallacy of recording vs. endorsing is all over the series, such as when the Commanders visit the Jezebels. Again, yes, there are prostitutes recorded in the Bible. Nowhere does God endorse it.

Still, we have mainly Leftist women dressing in handmaid's garb to "fight the patriarchy", often citing Christianity as the patriarchal foe. I would say, hey, Tehran is sitting right over here.....

The reason that the Left is dedicated to destroying "Patriarchy", is because they want to secure their Black vote, of which, about 70% have fatherless homes, leading to rampant poverty and violence within society. They wish to keep them poor and mostly in jail, while blaming it all on "systemic racism", that only the DNC cares about and can fix, as it only seems to get worse and worse, even when they are in complete power.

 

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Not at all.

BOth of those statements are true.

He exited JCPAO out of spite for Obama.
He's continuing this foolish and unnecessary war because he can't stand up to Bibi

You gave two different reasons for attacking Iran in two different posts. You weren't arguing Trump existed JCPAO. You were arguing Trump went to war with Iran.

 

[JoeB131]

You gave two different reasons for attacking Iran in two different posts. You weren't arguing Trump existed JCPAO. You were arguing Trump went to war with Iran.

No, I gave a reason why we attacked Iran and a reason why he tore up JCPOA, which are not mutually exclusive.

 

[ding]

No, I gave a reason why we attacked Iran and a reason why he tore up JCPOA, which are not mutually exclusive.

That's not what you did. But congratulations on failing to be accountable for your mistake.

 

[JoeB131]

That's not what you did. But congratulations on failing to be accountable for your mistake.

Is "accountable" your new word?

Your lack of reading comprehension isn't my problem

 

[ding]

Is "accountable" your new word?

It's a great word. Who doesn't like accountability.

Take some now and admit your mistake. You will feel better.

Your lack of reading comprehension isn't my problem

It's all in black and white.