Zone1 What makes Christianity different from other religions?

[Paradoxical#1]

Christianity is effectively a sect of Judaism that believe God so loved man that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and suffer death to reconcile justice with mercy.

You’ll never change your life until you take accountability for it. Christianity is not to blame for your life.

Ummm, I don't need to change my life. YOU do.

 

[irosie91]

While comforting to rival religions, it doesn’t explain why Jews began worshipping Jesus as God.

so described in the Roman book

 

[hobelim]

Christianity is a Roman sect.

A bastard child of Mithraism.

 

[hobelim]

it doesn’t explain why Jews began worshipping Jesus as God.

Jews never worshipped Jesus as God. Pagans ignorant of Jewish thought, belief, and literary expressions did.

Long after the fact.

 

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Ummm, I don't need to change my life. YOU do.

Who needs accountability when you can blame others and Christianity, right?

 

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Jews never worshipped Jesus as God. Pagans ignorant of Jewish thought, belief, and literary expressions did.

Long after the fact.

The apostles were pagans?

When was Jesus first worshipped as God and why?

 

[hobelim]

The apostles were pagans?

NO, they were Jews who said about Jesus when Jesus asked them if they would leave him too after he explained what he meant by saying "eat my flesh" meaning the WORDS he had spoken that are both Spirit and life, "Lord to whom shall we go? You WORDS are WORDS of eternal life. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God," their awaited messiah, a Jewish man who would be sent by God "to convey all of his commands."

I have not spoken on my own authority. But, the Father who sent me has told me what to say and how to say it. John 12:49

“I will raise up for them a prophet like you (Moses), one of their own race. I will put My WORDS in his mouth, and he shall covey all of my commands. And I will hold accountable anyone who does not listen to My WORDS that the prophet speaks in My name." Deuteronomy 18:18

 

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NO, they were Jews who said about Jesus when Jesus asked them if they would leave him too after he explained what he meant by saying "eat my flesh" meaning the WORDS he had spoken that are both Spirit and life, "Lord to whom shall we go? You WORDS are WORDS of eternal life. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God," their awaited messiah, a Jewish man who would be sent by God "to convey all of his commands."

I have not spoken on my own authority. But, the Father who sent me has told me what to say and how to say it. John 12:49

“I will raise up for them a prophet like you (Moses), one of their own race. I will put My WORDS in his mouth, and he shall covey all of my commands. And I will hold accountable anyone who does not listen to My WORDS that the prophet speaks in My name." Deuteronomy 18:18

So we are agreed the first Christians were Jews who worshipped Jesus as God because they witnessed his miracles and resurrection.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

So we are agreed the first Christians were Jews who worshipped Jesus as God because they witnessed his miracles and resurrection.

They witnessed nothing.

 

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They witnessed nothing.

24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

 

[shockedcanadian]

It basically took Judaism and stripped it down mainly to the "fun, optimistic stuff without the inconvenient sacrifices". It also broke one of the key Commandments in the process, to not engage in idolatry (worshipping Jesus).

This isn't to denigrate Christianity at all, it's just the reality of it. It is a loving religion, sometimes to a fault (as I experienced when I kept turning the other cheek) which follows a practitioner of Judaism except he altered it, which ensured that it was no longer Judaism. This is also what makes it different, it's progressive and diverting from its origins.

The acts are what are lacking and it's clear in Canada in particular, less so in the U.S where you have pockets of righteous people of faith.

You can't say for instance, "I'm a Christian" but then push for capital punishment. This is particularly egregious to Jews and Catholics. You cannot say "I'm a Christian" but then turn your back of civil duty and love of fellow man, charity etc.

Acts over thoughts are critical and it's often where Christians and Catholics fall short.

It's a big reason there are many protests in Israel. They want their hostages back and they also want Israels reputation back. They want to defend their reputation as a loving, tolerant, Jewish state that is supposed to bring the light to the world. You'd be amazed at how many Jews convert to Buddhism, they want the spirituality (like Christians) without the effort.

Christianity is different in that it sidesteps some of these critical acts for easier effort. You can convert to Christianity in an instance as long as you firmly believe in Christs teaching. Islam is similar as I understand it. Judaism requires great effort and commitment. It must be your destiny more than a simple conscience decision, it has to be G-ds decision for you. Christians are different, you choose when to convert.

If Israel loses it's Judaism it will be no more significant to the world than if Saudi Arabia lost its Islam or how so many of the West are losing it's Christianity based on Judeo-Christian doctrine.

You don't need state ordered religious laws, everyone can worship as they please. You do need to the spirit of the faith though. The spirit of your nations faith will guide your principles and they are a challenge in a society driven by short attention spans and lack of depth in thought.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

Lord of the Rings doesn't confirm it either. Nor does the Quran

 

[irosie91]

24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

I am fascinated. Where are the 24000 written manuscripts? In what language are they
written?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I am fascinated. Where are the 24000 written manuscripts? In what language are they
written?

He has brought the 24,000 manuscripts up several times before, and I have admonished him over this claim every single time, but like a nasty gnat he keeps coming back. Based on his premise that makes ANYTHING true that has been written about a lot over the centuries "true".

If anyone has done a lot of work using Large Language Models (AI) as I have, what you will notice is that their responses are based on popular opinion or writings. If on a topic the prevailing opinions and writings are on one side with no dissent, you are going to get responses that "verify" those writings as being "true".

As for his manuscripts, why would there be any opposing opinions? For what reason(s). Who would need to write opposing pieces to them? For what purpose?

In the Middle Ages, you would be killed by the Catholics for opposing opinions. In Iran, you still are killed if you disparage Islam or doubt it. Thus, 2,000 years from now some idiot can say, "Islam is true because all of the writings in the Middle East confirmed that it is.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

So we are agreed the first Christians were Jews who worshipped Jesus as God because they witnessed his miracles and resurrection.

Name one witness to seeing him rise from the tomb.

 

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Lord of the Rings doesn't confirm it either. Nor does the Quran

First Christians worshipping Jesus as God corroborates the accounts in the 24,000 written manuscripts.

Never before had a major religion sprung up from the persecution and death of its leader. Especially when they were persecuted for it.

 

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I am fascinated. Where are the 24000 written manuscripts? In what language are they
written?

Have you tried using google?

 

[irosie91]

Have you tried using google?

rarely----I prefer PRIMARY SOURCES-----like you

 

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Name one witness to seeing him rise from the tomb.

Name one person who said here’s his dead body. Name one person who said there was no resurrection. Name one person who said Jesus didn’t perform any miracles. Name one person who said Jesus wasn’t put to death for sorcery and leading Israel into apostasy.

 

[Zebra]

24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

or 144,000?