What Constitutional Rights Apply to an Unborn Fetus: Judicial Interpretation as opposed to Legal/JudicialPhilosophy

[Dante Reawakened]

There are other mammals. Not all fetuses are human beings. Pigs in the fetal stage of life are pigs, not human beings.

Human beings in the fetal stage of life are certainly alive though, and they are certainly human beings, and not some other species.


Unborn kids have a mother and a father. There is no need to step in unless there is evidence of abuse.

so they have no rights of their own, these unborn? Is lifestyle that affects fetal development a state interest -- as in protecting the claimed rights of the unborn?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Can living things be killed? Yes.
Can young living things be killed? Same answer, yes. End of question.

is all killing murder? Are all murders equal?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

They made the argument that the Jews were somehow subhuman and did not deserve protection from their government.

I thought those arguments had been defeated with that government. But we have those using the same arguments today.

Was that scientifically sound?

 

[HeyNorm]

Was that scientifically sound?

To them, apparently so.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

so they have no rights of their own, these unborn?

Human rights are natural and unalienable.

Governments exist and are created to protect these. A just government would protect the right to life of all human beings.

 

[HeyNorm]

Human rights are natural and unalienable.

Governments exist and are created to protect these. A just government would protect the right to life of all human beings.

But some would argue, as did the Nazis in Germany did, that some life is not worthy of the governments protection.

Sad, but it appears that is what’s happening today.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

But some would argue, as did the Nazis in Germany did, that some life is not worthy of the governments protection.

Sad, but it appears that is what’s happening today.

Of course, the pro-aborts are absolutely the ideological cousins of slavers and genociders - they want to deny personhood to those they want dead.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

To them, apparently so.

German scientists didn't know it was unsound? They were that dumb?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Human rights are natural and unalienable.

Governments exist and are created to protect these. A just government would protect the right to life of all human beings.

Orange: philosophy bullshit
Blue: they are not. more bullshit. and are the unborn, human beings? Are eggs Chickens?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

But some would argue, as did the Nazis in Germany did, that some life is not worthy of the governments protection.

Sad, but it appears that is what’s happening today.

Sure. Unborn vs born. Child vs Fetus. People vs sperm and an egg

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Of course, the pro-aborts are absolutely the ideological cousins of slavers and genociders - they want to deny personhood to those they want dead.

Dead? Why would a person want an abortion?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Human rights are natural and unalienable.

Governments exist and are created to protect these. A just government would protect the right to life of all human beings.

there exist "rights are God-given and can never be taken or even given away" - some claim

okay. A prisoner still has his rights. He's still a prisoner. And wtf are 'Human rights'

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Orange: philosophy bullshit
Blue: they are not. more bullshit. and are the unborn, human beings? Are eggs Chickens?

Oh good, we can dispense with the pleasantries and the pretense that you have the minimum intelligence to have this discussion.

Okay, pro-abort filth, got it, you have no respect for human rights. No shit, that was obvious - you’re a pro-abort.

You don’t want governments to protect the rights you don’t respect. Again, you’re a pro-abort, and a leftist. Human rights are trash to you. Obviously. Got it.

And then you ask the same retarded question you’ve already asked and was already answered, because you’re not very bright and can’t comprehend and remember what you read.

But yeah, human beings are human beings, obviously. Young human beings aren’t old human beings, again, obviously, duh, moron.

What other basic aspects of reality do you need explained to you, retarded pro-abort filth?

 

[HeyNorm]

German scientists didn't know it was unsound? They were that dumb?

I think we have found that evil seeks out its own “science” justification.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Oh good, we can dispense with the pleasantries and the pretense that you have the minimum intelligence to have this discussion.

Okay, pro-abort filth, got it, you have no respect for human rights. No shit, that was obvious - you’re a pro-abort.

You don’t want governments to protect the rights you don’t respect. Again, you’re a pro-abort, and a leftist. Human rights are trash to you. Obviously. Got it.

And then you ask the same retarded question you’ve already asked and was already answered, because you’re not very bright and can’t comprehend and remember what you read.

But yeah, human beings are human beings, obviously. Young human beings aren’t old human beings, again, obviously, duh, moron.

What other basic aspects of reality do you need explained to you, retarded pro-abort filth?

Why do you hate people? Would you advocate killing people you hate?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I think we have found that evil seeks out its own “science” justification.

Why say that about your beloved Nazis?

 

[HeyNorm]

Why say that about your beloved Nazis?

Mine?, you’re the one parroting Adolph.

So what other subhumans do you want eliminated?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Mine?, you’re the one parroting Adolph.

So what other subhumans do you want eliminated?

Me? Want people eliminated? LOL

I've never said I want anyone or anything eliminated

LOL

 

[HeyNorm]

Me? Want people eliminated? LOL

I've never said I want anyone or anything eliminated

LOL

Great, you are now anti abortion!

Glad we had this conversation, cause damn, you were looking all Nazi and stuff earlier.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Why do you hate people? Would you advocate killing people you hate?

It’s reasonable to hate people for their words and actions, like you, who promotes hatred and killing. You’re bigoted hatemongering scum.

And while it’s not always fair to hate people for their shortcomings they can’t control, like you and your stupidity, your willful ignorance and you mouthing off disrespectfully instead of recognizing your limitations with humility is yet another valid reason to hate someone like you.

You’re the one who is actively dehumanizing and promoting the death of those you hate for purely arbitrary and stupid reasons - stop projecting.