Observations on the anti-gun crowd

[Failzero]

Nope, the first amendment is still relevant.

Absolutely.

There should be extensive background checks on speech, and a person has to show they can handle speech safely.
If they pass the background check, an IQ test should be given before their speech should be allowed in public.

Even Heller recognizes that a militia having small arms is useless in modern day.

I live in Chicago, that's hilarious!

It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large.

The right to bear arms existed before the Founders had the need for a militia.

There was never a Moment in pre 20th Century America that a Militia was not needed

 

[Moonglow]

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Iran has no nuclear weapons. Why do you lie?

 

[westwall]

It doesn't.

I think wanting to have napalm to "play with", in itself says a person can not be trusted with it..

Your fast car analogy doesn't work considering a fast car has an obvious peaceful non-violent purpose. Napalm does not. In fact drive fast enough times and the government will take the right to drive away. Regardless if you kill someone

Why? Farmers use explosives and napalm adjacent materials all of the time. I still maintain my blasting license on the off chance I will need it.

Down in Australia there used to be no explosives controls at all till some idiot used some to blow up the courthouse in Coober Pedy.

Now, the laws are in place, but explosives are used even more to commit crimes.

Laws don't prevent crime. They merely give a legal basis for punishment.

They prevent nothing.

 

[westwall]

At manafactured napalm is the obvious answer. Fertizer, diesel fuel, gasoline and alcohol all have non-explosive uses. Napalm... not so much.

Napalm is used to clear out dead underbrush and thick timber fall.

 

[westwall]

There's plenty of countries that have "gun-grabbing laws", ALL of them have fewer violent lawbreakers shooting people.

Provably false by merely looking to our neighbor to the south.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I have actually seen a few gun control laws I would consider reasonable. Offhand...

You need to be 18 to purchase a firearm; under 18 can purchase if accompanied by a parent/guardian.

No firing of tracer, incendiary, or other ammunition in certain areas due to fire hazard.

I have no real issue with prohibiting firearms to convicted felons.

 

[2aguy]

Just to hate on the Left. Have a debate with a gun nut and inject logic in the argument, they can only mouth froth and default back to "2nd Amendment" to halt the argument because they know they're fupped.

You are such a lame human being. The women of England are being raped by gangs of muslim men on an industrial scale, and they have absolutely no way to protect themselves. Your government refuses to protect them, in fact, often arrested the young girls who were drugged and gang raped, accusing them of being prostitutes.

Our Right to self defense, and the Right to own and carry guns is based on the fact that the government will not, and cannot protect it's citizens. The government also will at times actively murder it's own citizens and oppress them, which is why our Founders stated the government cannot infringe on our Right to keep and bear arms.

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 249 year history?

Around 2,490,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

 

[westwall]

I have actually seen a few gun control laws I would consider reasonable. Offhand...

You need to be 18 to purchase a firearm; under 18 can purchase if accompanied by a parent/guardian.

No firing of tracer, incendiary, or other ammunition in certain areas due to fire hazard.

I have no real issue with prohibiting firearms to convicted felons.

Agreed. A felon has proven that they have no regard for the Rights of others, so I think it only fair that they lose theirs.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I have no real issue with prohibiting firearms to convicted felons.

If a felon is too dangerous to be trusted with a firearm, he should not be let out of prison.

 

[Failzero]

If a felon is too dangerous to be trusted with a firearm, he should not be let out of prison.

Tell that to the Bleeding Heart Socially Liberal Activist Judiciary

 

[M14 Shooter]

Tell that to the Bleeding Heart Socially Liberal Activist Judiciary

They -want- violent felons on the street, so...

 

[Failzero]

They -want- violent felons on the street, so...

Those felons should not have legal ability to purchase firearms

 

[M14 Shooter]

Those felons should not have legal ability to purchase firearms

They should still be in prison.

 

[Failzero]

They should still be in prison.

There should be a Death penalty too