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Nope, not true at all.everybody's mail box in a given neighborhood has mail-in ballots in them on the same day,
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Nope, not true at all.everybody's mail box in a given neighborhood has mail-in ballots in them on the same day,
What's your point?I'd say 80,000 smacks of voter suppression.I'm not against absentee ballots sent out on request.What's less secure about it? Here in Kansas anyone can get a mail in ballots just by asking for it. Kris Kobach tried desperately for years to find vote fraud here and failed before he failed to find it nationwide for tRump.So he's pushing AGAINST a voting system that's less secure. . . because he wants to cheat? On what planet does that make sense?No
Trump admits he’s BLOCKING stimulus plan and funding for US Postal Service in bid to stop mail-in voting
THE PRESIDENT is holding up Americans' stimulus checks because he wants to prevent voting by mail fraud.
President Trump said Thursday morning he is blocking the $2 trillion stimulus package put forth by Democrats because it allots $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service, which he equated as "election money" in convoluted reasoning involving mail-in ballots.
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The president is blocking Democrats' stimulus package because it contains $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service.
The president confidently emitted this morning on Fox News's 'Mornings with Maria,' that funding the U.S. Postal Service is a secret guise for allowing mail-in ballots.
"That's a rigged election waiting to happen. It's rigged and everyone knows it because you can't send out 60 million mail-in ballots to everybody in the--who knows who's going to get them," the president uttered this morning.
"The mailmen are going to get them, people are just gonna grab batches of them. And you're talking about China and Russia and they'll be grabbing plenty of them. It's a disaster," he said as he continued his tirade against the U.S. Postal Service.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats have put forth a $3 trillion stimulus package under the HEROES Act, which the speaker went over this morning during her weekly briefing as bringing money to areas impacted most by the COVID-19 crisis.
However, Trump is unwilling to budge on the $25 billion Democrats will allocate to the "financially troubled" U.S. Postal Service.
'That's election money basically,' he said. "If they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting."
Trump places blame of the stalled stimulus package negotiations onto the Democrats.
"It's their fault," he said. "They want $3.5 billion for something that's fraudulent ... for the mail-in votes, universal mail-in ballots. They want $25 billion for the post office."
View attachment 374639
Polisi's chutzpah
No surprise he could care less of anyone but himself and how he can cheat to get re elected. It's ok though for us here in Florida to mail our ballots.
Mail in ballots are perfectly safe.
That said, if you can't see what's inherently less secure about mail-in ballots, you're being willfully dense. You're talking about the votes sitting in mailboxes unsupervised for hours at a time, then passing through the hands of whoever happens to be employed by the post office, also unsupervised in the case of the mail carriers picking them up and delivering them. The difference in logistics between that and in-person polling is so insanely obvious that I'm kinda baffled that I even have to break it down for you.
Want actual evidence? A county in NY just threw out 80k ballots in their primaries, which amounted to 25 percent of their vote, and that's not the only place that's had massive numbers of disqualified ballots. When have you heard of 25 percent of a precinct's votes needing to be struck down at in-person polling places?
Over 80,000 mail-in ballots disqualified in NYC primary mess
The mail-in ballots of more than 84,000 New York City Democrats who sought to vote in the presidential primary were disqualified, according to new figures released by the Board of Elections. The ci…nypost.com
80,000. . . where have I heard that number before. . . OH YEAH!
Why voting matters: Supreme Court edition
Fewer than 80,000 votes swung the 2016 election.www.axios.com
Because fewer than 80k votes were the combined difference in the states that put Trump over on the EC in 2016. That's right, 1 blue district in blue ol' NY just threw out as many votes as it took to put Trump in the oval office, thanks largely to mail-in irregularities.
But no, you're right, SUPER secure.
There's no evidence it's less secure? Do you need scientific studies to explain basic f'in logistics to you?So he's pushing AGAINST a voting system that's less secure. . . because he wants to cheat? On what planet does that make sense?No
Trump admits he’s BLOCKING stimulus plan and funding for US Postal Service in bid to stop mail-in voting
THE PRESIDENT is holding up Americans' stimulus checks because he wants to prevent voting by mail fraud.
President Trump said Thursday morning he is blocking the $2 trillion stimulus package put forth by Democrats because it allots $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service, which he equated as "election money" in convoluted reasoning involving mail-in ballots.
2
The president is blocking Democrats' stimulus package because it contains $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service.
The president confidently emitted this morning on Fox News's 'Mornings with Maria,' that funding the U.S. Postal Service is a secret guise for allowing mail-in ballots.
"That's a rigged election waiting to happen. It's rigged and everyone knows it because you can't send out 60 million mail-in ballots to everybody in the--who knows who's going to get them," the president uttered this morning.
"The mailmen are going to get them, people are just gonna grab batches of them. And you're talking about China and Russia and they'll be grabbing plenty of them. It's a disaster," he said as he continued his tirade against the U.S. Postal Service.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats have put forth a $3 trillion stimulus package under the HEROES Act, which the speaker went over this morning during her weekly briefing as bringing money to areas impacted most by the COVID-19 crisis.
However, Trump is unwilling to budge on the $25 billion Democrats will allocate to the "financially troubled" U.S. Postal Service.
'That's election money basically,' he said. "If they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting."
Trump places blame of the stalled stimulus package negotiations onto the Democrats.
"It's their fault," he said. "They want $3.5 billion for something that's fraudulent ... for the mail-in votes, universal mail-in ballots. They want $25 billion for the post office."
View attachment 374639
Polisi's chutzpah
No surprise he could care less of anyone but himself and how he can cheat to get re elected. It's ok though for us here in Florida to mail our ballots.
There is no evidence it is less secure. This is a attempt to suppress the vote. Trump should be prosecuted after he is defeated.
It's true in my neck of Oregon, sweet cheeks.Nope, not true at all.everybody's mail box in a given neighborhood has mail-in ballots in them on the same day,
Why?It's true in my neck of Oregon, sweet cheeks.Nope, not true at all.everybody's mail box in a given neighborhood has mail-in ballots in them on the same day,
Paying to vote is voter suppression. Paying a fee to obtain an ID in order to vote is a poll tax.Republicans don't tend to push for free anything. More welfare is a democrat pattern.When Republicans push for voter ID, why don't THEY also push for free ID? Doesn't their indifference to free ID imply voter suppression?All either of us are pushing here are our opinions on what other people are thinking.Maybe you honestly believe all that jazz, but it ain't what your Republican leadership is ALL ABOUT... they work, day in and day out, to disenfranchise CITIZENS of their vote and representation, that they think will support their opponent.Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
I daresay, however, that if the democrats actually cared about enfranchisement, you folks would push for free ID for everybody, not insecure elections.
It also isn't republicans trying to push the idea that black people aren't capable of acquiring ID. I just think that, if the democrats are going to present themselves as the champions of the downtrodden minorities, and champions of the poor and working class, AND they've decided that poor black people can't handle a tasks as monumental as traveling to a DMV, filling out paperwork, or saving up 20 dollars, then wouldn't those same defenders of the oppressed want those people to have the picture identification required to get lawful employment in this country?
But no, they don't even bring it up. They just say it's racist to require ID at the polls, but not once have I EVER heard a democrat say that it's racist to require ID to travel internationally. Not ONCE have I EVER heard a democrat say that it's racist to require ID to see an R rated movie. Not ONCE have I EVER heard a democrat say that it's racist to force people without ID to work under the table. The ONLY time it's racist to require ID is when it would prevent openings for voter fraud, and in that case, suddenly they've forgotten about how adamant they are about everybody's needs being guaranteed by society.
That shit doesn't make you wonder, even just a little?
I'm assuming this is based on the same logic that the democrats use to justify all of the corners that they cut on election security: There haven't been that many convictions for voter fraud, therefore these obvious opportunities we've created for fraud don't actually exist.Why?It's true in my neck of Oregon, sweet cheeks.Nope, not true at all.everybody's mail box in a given neighborhood has mail-in ballots in them on the same day,
And yet voting by mail is something that has happened since I first voted absentee while I was in college in 1976.If you want your prescriptions mailed to you, and you don't mind risking that shit getting stolen out of the mail, that's on you.What fraud? And massive errors? Checks, medicines, taxes, property deeds are mailed. Why not ballots?Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
This is yet another example of the continuing efforts of Republicans to suppress the vote. A disgusting tactic from a group claiming to support the constitution?
But when someone's ballot gets stolen out of the mail, that effects elections. That isn't just YOUR PILLS getting snatched up.
Also, the constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vote. If you're going to throw legal documents around, maybe read 'em.
How would we have evidence of people faking their identities at polling places, if we never attempt to verify their identity?Paying to vote is voter suppression. Paying a fee to obtain an ID in order to vote is a poll tax.Republicans don't tend to push for free anything. More welfare is a democrat pattern.When Republicans push for voter ID, why don't THEY also push for free ID? Doesn't their indifference to free ID imply voter suppression?All either of us are pushing here are our opinions on what other people are thinking.Maybe you honestly believe all that jazz, but it ain't what your Republican leadership is ALL ABOUT... they work, day in and day out, to disenfranchise CITIZENS of their vote and representation, that they think will support their opponent.Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
I daresay, however, that if the democrats actually cared about enfranchisement, you folks would push for free ID for everybody, not insecure elections.
It also isn't republicans trying to push the idea that black people aren't capable of acquiring ID. I just think that, if the democrats are going to present themselves as the champions of the downtrodden minorities, and champions of the poor and working class, AND they've decided that poor black people can't handle a tasks as monumental as traveling to a DMV, filling out paperwork, or saving up 20 dollars, then wouldn't those same defenders of the oppressed want those people to have the picture identification required to get lawful employment in this country?
But no, they don't even bring it up. They just say it's racist to require ID at the polls, but not once have I EVER heard a democrat say that it's racist to require ID to travel internationally. Not ONCE have I EVER heard a democrat say that it's racist to require ID to see an R rated movie. Not ONCE have I EVER heard a democrat say that it's racist to force people without ID to work under the table. The ONLY time it's racist to require ID is when it would prevent openings for voter fraud, and in that case, suddenly they've forgotten about how adamant they are about everybody's needs being guaranteed by society.
That shit doesn't make you wonder, even just a little?
Voter fraud is a myth. If you can present evidence to the contrary, your Pulitzer Prize awaits.
Your point?And yet voting by mail is something that has happened since I first voted absentee while I was in college in 1976.If you want your prescriptions mailed to you, and you don't mind risking that shit getting stolen out of the mail, that's on you.What fraud? And massive errors? Checks, medicines, taxes, property deeds are mailed. Why not ballots?Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
This is yet another example of the continuing efforts of Republicans to suppress the vote. A disgusting tactic from a group claiming to support the constitution?
But when someone's ballot gets stolen out of the mail, that effects elections. That isn't just YOUR PILLS getting snatched up.
Also, the constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vote. If you're going to throw legal documents around, maybe read 'em.
The state's have shut down 90 % of their local voting places due to the virus, they now have a few mega voting centers. The volunteer election workers at the local precincts are mostly old people who have said they can't take the risk.What's your point?I'd say 80,000 smacks of voter suppression.I'm not against absentee ballots sent out on request.What's less secure about it? Here in Kansas anyone can get a mail in ballots just by asking for it. Kris Kobach tried desperately for years to find vote fraud here and failed before he failed to find it nationwide for tRump.So he's pushing AGAINST a voting system that's less secure. . . because he wants to cheat? On what planet does that make sense?No
Trump admits he’s BLOCKING stimulus plan and funding for US Postal Service in bid to stop mail-in voting
THE PRESIDENT is holding up Americans' stimulus checks because he wants to prevent voting by mail fraud.
President Trump said Thursday morning he is blocking the $2 trillion stimulus package put forth by Democrats because it allots $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service, which he equated as "election money" in convoluted reasoning involving mail-in ballots.
2
The president is blocking Democrats' stimulus package because it contains $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service.
The president confidently emitted this morning on Fox News's 'Mornings with Maria,' that funding the U.S. Postal Service is a secret guise for allowing mail-in ballots.
"That's a rigged election waiting to happen. It's rigged and everyone knows it because you can't send out 60 million mail-in ballots to everybody in the--who knows who's going to get them," the president uttered this morning.
"The mailmen are going to get them, people are just gonna grab batches of them. And you're talking about China and Russia and they'll be grabbing plenty of them. It's a disaster," he said as he continued his tirade against the U.S. Postal Service.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats have put forth a $3 trillion stimulus package under the HEROES Act, which the speaker went over this morning during her weekly briefing as bringing money to areas impacted most by the COVID-19 crisis.
However, Trump is unwilling to budge on the $25 billion Democrats will allocate to the "financially troubled" U.S. Postal Service.
'That's election money basically,' he said. "If they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting."
Trump places blame of the stalled stimulus package negotiations onto the Democrats.
"It's their fault," he said. "They want $3.5 billion for something that's fraudulent ... for the mail-in votes, universal mail-in ballots. They want $25 billion for the post office."
View attachment 374639
Polisi's chutzpah
No surprise he could care less of anyone but himself and how he can cheat to get re elected. It's ok though for us here in Florida to mail our ballots.
Mail in ballots are perfectly safe.
That said, if you can't see what's inherently less secure about mail-in ballots, you're being willfully dense. You're talking about the votes sitting in mailboxes unsupervised for hours at a time, then passing through the hands of whoever happens to be employed by the post office, also unsupervised in the case of the mail carriers picking them up and delivering them. The difference in logistics between that and in-person polling is so insanely obvious that I'm kinda baffled that I even have to break it down for you.
Want actual evidence? A county in NY just threw out 80k ballots in their primaries, which amounted to 25 percent of their vote, and that's not the only place that's had massive numbers of disqualified ballots. When have you heard of 25 percent of a precinct's votes needing to be struck down at in-person polling places?
Over 80,000 mail-in ballots disqualified in NYC primary mess
The mail-in ballots of more than 84,000 New York City Democrats who sought to vote in the presidential primary were disqualified, according to new figures released by the Board of Elections. The ci…nypost.com
80,000. . . where have I heard that number before. . . OH YEAH!
Why voting matters: Supreme Court edition
Fewer than 80,000 votes swung the 2016 election.www.axios.com
Because fewer than 80k votes were the combined difference in the states that put Trump over on the EC in 2016. That's right, 1 blue district in blue ol' NY just threw out as many votes as it took to put Trump in the oval office, thanks largely to mail-in irregularities.
But no, you're right, SUPER secure.
They wouldn't have had the room to strike them down if they were cast in person, genius. My entire point is that this set up creates massive room for fraud. I give a fuck what party the fraudsters hail from.
You say the Dems want the elections less secure for safety reasons.The state's have shut down 90 of their local voting places due to the virus, they now have a few mega voting centers. The volunteer election workers at the local precincts are mostly old people who have said they can't take the risk.What's your point?I'd say 80,000 smacks of voter suppression.I'm not against absentee ballots sent out on request.What's less secure about it? Here in Kansas anyone can get a mail in ballots just by asking for it. Kris Kobach tried desperately for years to find vote fraud here and failed before he failed to find it nationwide for tRump.So he's pushing AGAINST a voting system that's less secure. . . because he wants to cheat? On what planet does that make sense?No
Trump admits he’s BLOCKING stimulus plan and funding for US Postal Service in bid to stop mail-in voting
THE PRESIDENT is holding up Americans' stimulus checks because he wants to prevent voting by mail fraud.
President Trump said Thursday morning he is blocking the $2 trillion stimulus package put forth by Democrats because it allots $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service, which he equated as "election money" in convoluted reasoning involving mail-in ballots.
2
The president is blocking Democrats' stimulus package because it contains $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service.
The president confidently emitted this morning on Fox News's 'Mornings with Maria,' that funding the U.S. Postal Service is a secret guise for allowing mail-in ballots.
"That's a rigged election waiting to happen. It's rigged and everyone knows it because you can't send out 60 million mail-in ballots to everybody in the--who knows who's going to get them," the president uttered this morning.
"The mailmen are going to get them, people are just gonna grab batches of them. And you're talking about China and Russia and they'll be grabbing plenty of them. It's a disaster," he said as he continued his tirade against the U.S. Postal Service.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats have put forth a $3 trillion stimulus package under the HEROES Act, which the speaker went over this morning during her weekly briefing as bringing money to areas impacted most by the COVID-19 crisis.
However, Trump is unwilling to budge on the $25 billion Democrats will allocate to the "financially troubled" U.S. Postal Service.
'That's election money basically,' he said. "If they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting."
Trump places blame of the stalled stimulus package negotiations onto the Democrats.
"It's their fault," he said. "They want $3.5 billion for something that's fraudulent ... for the mail-in votes, universal mail-in ballots. They want $25 billion for the post office."
View attachment 374639
Polisi's chutzpah
No surprise he could care less of anyone but himself and how he can cheat to get re elected. It's ok though for us here in Florida to mail our ballots.
Mail in ballots are perfectly safe.
That said, if you can't see what's inherently less secure about mail-in ballots, you're being willfully dense. You're talking about the votes sitting in mailboxes unsupervised for hours at a time, then passing through the hands of whoever happens to be employed by the post office, also unsupervised in the case of the mail carriers picking them up and delivering them. The difference in logistics between that and in-person polling is so insanely obvious that I'm kinda baffled that I even have to break it down for you.
Want actual evidence? A county in NY just threw out 80k ballots in their primaries, which amounted to 25 percent of their vote, and that's not the only place that's had massive numbers of disqualified ballots. When have you heard of 25 percent of a precinct's votes needing to be struck down at in-person polling places?
Over 80,000 mail-in ballots disqualified in NYC primary mess
The mail-in ballots of more than 84,000 New York City Democrats who sought to vote in the presidential primary were disqualified, according to new figures released by the Board of Elections. The ci…nypost.com
80,000. . . where have I heard that number before. . . OH YEAH!
Why voting matters: Supreme Court edition
Fewer than 80,000 votes swung the 2016 election.www.axios.com
Because fewer than 80k votes were the combined difference in the states that put Trump over on the EC in 2016. That's right, 1 blue district in blue ol' NY just threw out as many votes as it took to put Trump in the oval office, thanks largely to mail-in irregularities.
But no, you're right, SUPER secure.
They wouldn't have had the room to strike them down if they were cast in person, genius. My entire point is that this set up creates massive room for fraud. I give a fuck what party the fraudsters hail from.
So polling places are miles away and not local for many, and then they have to wait 5 hours in line to vote.
PLEASE STOP THIS DISENFRANCHISING of our votes.....that's CHEATING.
Mail in votes is a way to reduce the 5 hour wait times there are voting in person in crowded areas.
There are only 3 New states...actually 2 states and DC, that announced they were mailing ballots to all registered voters due to the pandemic safety issues..... No additional states than these three...have changed their laws to accommodate such an idea.
And here is the kicker....it's California, Nevada, and Washington DC.....
All of them are Democratic voting states.... They all voted for Hillary by majority.... California and DC big time.
Even if your baseless and ridiculous claims of somehow mailing ballots to all registered voters would cause cheating and fraud and Trump to lose.....
It's laughable that you think Trump has a cold chance in hell of ever winning the Electoral Votes in a California etc.....under any circumstance.... in other words, their purpose IS NOT to cheat via mail in....THEY DON'T NEED TO CHEAT to win! IT IS FOR SAFETY REASONS, especially for those who do want to vote in person....less people, the safer the voters and poll workers, will be who do vote in person.
Why are they less secure? They go through the same process of verifying the registered mail in absentee voter that they do for everyone, including military votes.... They verify the signature on file, if it doesn't match, they contact the registered voter, if the registered voter swears it is their vote, then they are given the opportunity to come to the election office and prove it..... otherwise, the mail in vote is disqualified.You say the Dems want the elections less secure for safety reasons.
WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD?Your point?And yet voting by mail is something that has happened since I first voted absentee while I was in college in 1976.If you want your prescriptions mailed to you, and you don't mind risking that shit getting stolen out of the mail, that's on you.What fraud? And massive errors? Checks, medicines, taxes, property deeds are mailed. Why not ballots?Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
This is yet another example of the continuing efforts of Republicans to suppress the vote. A disgusting tactic from a group claiming to support the constitution?
But when someone's ballot gets stolen out of the mail, that effects elections. That isn't just YOUR PILLS getting snatched up.
Also, the constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vote. If you're going to throw legal documents around, maybe read 'em.
Why are you locking your door? You've never convicted a man for robbing your house, you racist!WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD?Your point?And yet voting by mail is something that has happened since I first voted absentee while I was in college in 1976.If you want your prescriptions mailed to you, and you don't mind risking that shit getting stolen out of the mail, that's on you.What fraud? And massive errors? Checks, medicines, taxes, property deeds are mailed. Why not ballots?Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
This is yet another example of the continuing efforts of Republicans to suppress the vote. A disgusting tactic from a group claiming to support the constitution?
But when someone's ballot gets stolen out of the mail, that effects elections. That isn't just YOUR PILLS getting snatched up.
Also, the constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vote. If you're going to throw legal documents around, maybe read 'em.
Voter fraud, and voter fraud by mail, is a myth!
I keep saying it over and over and over.Why are they less secure? They go through the same process of verifying the registered mail in absentee voter that they do for everyone, including military votes.... They verify the signature on file, if it doesn't match, they contact the registered voter, if the registered voter swears it is their vote, then they are given the opportunity to come to the election office and prove it..... otherwise, the mail in vote is disqualified.You say the Dems want the elections less secure for safety reasons.
Also, why does it have to be fraud?WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD?Your point?And yet voting by mail is something that has happened since I first voted absentee while I was in college in 1976.If you want your prescriptions mailed to you, and you don't mind risking that shit getting stolen out of the mail, that's on you.What fraud? And massive errors? Checks, medicines, taxes, property deeds are mailed. Why not ballots?Voting needs to be defended, period. From people who would compromise the sanctity of the process in the name convenience disguised as freedom.Does voting really need to be defended to keep Trump in power?You could say that.he's abusing his power for his own personal benefit...instead of the American people and their right to vote, safely.... he should be overfunding the post office for this extraordinary pandemic period, instead he's cut it and slowed down the mail system.... so much so, that people are not getting their prescriptions through mail on time....
he is CHEATING FOR HIS OWN ELECTION..... why oh why can you not admit the truth? This is just plain wrong.
AND the gosh darn swamp needs DRAINING.... trump's new postmaster general is a huge donor of Donald Trump's, ran the campaign finances for the RNC, with Michael Cohen and Broidy who were both fired, and MOST IMPORTANTLY is heavily invested in US Postal Service's competitors like UPS etc with $100 MILLION of his asset investments....
Or you could uphold the standard that the democrats threw at us every time a debt ceiling debate came up during the Obama years.
Stop holding the nation hostage for your wish list of new election rules and GIVE US A CLEAN FUCKING STIMULUS PACKAGE.
What is it about America you claim to love? It isn't that 'freedom' part, is it?
The thing is, nobody WANTS to keep people from voting. People who want voter ID laws and who resist the idea of universal mail-in elections want our elections to remain secure from fraud and massive errors.
This is yet another example of the continuing efforts of Republicans to suppress the vote. A disgusting tactic from a group claiming to support the constitution?
But when someone's ballot gets stolen out of the mail, that effects elections. That isn't just YOUR PILLS getting snatched up.
Also, the constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vote. If you're going to throw legal documents around, maybe read 'em.
Voter fraud, and voter fraud by mail, is a myth!
AlsoWhy are they less secure? They go through the same process of verifying the registered mail in absentee voter that they do for everyone, including military votes.... They verify the signature on file, if it doesn't match, they contact the registered voter, if the registered voter swears it is their vote, then they are given the opportunity to come to the election office and prove it..... otherwise, the mail in vote is disqualified.You say the Dems want the elections less secure for safety reasons.