- Feb 15, 2012
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No shit. Studies show that it's disproportionately rural white folks who are affected by this, which disproportionately affects republicans. And yet you still shout from the rooftops that they're doing it to cheat and because they hate black people. Does the level of cognitive dissonance that allows you to acknowledge the probable republican disadvantage, and yet cling to your belief in their motives. . . Does it cause you physical pain?Funny part of this is it's likely to hurt republican'ts more. They tend to be rural. Here in the cities even "slow" mail delivery is a couple of days. It's out in the boonies where it's goanna take a week.The state's have shut down 90 % of their local voting places due to the virus, they now have a few mega voting centers. The volunteer election workers at the local precincts are mostly old people who have said they can't take the risk.What's your point?I'd say 80,000 smacks of voter suppression.I'm not against absentee ballots sent out on request.What's less secure about it? Here in Kansas anyone can get a mail in ballots just by asking for it. Kris Kobach tried desperately for years to find vote fraud here and failed before he failed to find it nationwide for tRump.So he's pushing AGAINST a voting system that's less secure. . . because he wants to cheat? On what planet does that make sense?No
No surprise he could care less of anyone but himself and how he can cheat to get re elected. It's ok though for us here in Florida to mail our ballots.Trump admits he’s BLOCKING stimulus plan and funding for US Postal Service in bid to stop mail-in voting
THE PRESIDENT is holding up Americans' stimulus checks because he wants to prevent voting by mail fraud.
President Trump said Thursday morning he is blocking the $2 trillion stimulus package put forth by Democrats because it allots $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service, which he equated as "election money" in convoluted reasoning involving mail-in ballots.
The president is blocking Democrats' stimulus package because it contains $25 billion in emergency funding to the U.S. Postal Service.
The president confidently emitted this morning on Fox News's 'Mornings with Maria,' that funding the U.S. Postal Service is a secret guise for allowing mail-in ballots.
"That's a rigged election waiting to happen. It's rigged and everyone knows it because you can't send out 60 million mail-in ballots to everybody in the--who knows who's going to get them," the president uttered this morning.
"The mailmen are going to get them, people are just gonna grab batches of them. And you're talking about China and Russia and they'll be grabbing plenty of them. It's a disaster," he said as he continued his tirade against the U.S. Postal Service.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats have put forth a $3 trillion stimulus package under the HEROES Act, which the speaker went over this morning during her weekly briefing as bringing money to areas impacted most by the COVID-19 crisis.
However, Trump is unwilling to budge on the $25 billion Democrats will allocate to the "financially troubled" U.S. Postal Service.
'That's election money basically,' he said. "If they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting."
Trump places blame of the stalled stimulus package negotiations onto the Democrats.
"It's their fault," he said. "They want $3.5 billion for something that's fraudulent ... for the mail-in votes, universal mail-in ballots. They want $25 billion for the post office."
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Mail in ballots are perfectly safe.
That said, if you can't see what's inherently less secure about mail-in ballots, you're being willfully dense. You're talking about the votes sitting in mailboxes unsupervised for hours at a time, then passing through the hands of whoever happens to be employed by the post office, also unsupervised in the case of the mail carriers picking them up and delivering them. The difference in logistics between that and in-person polling is so insanely obvious that I'm kinda baffled that I even have to break it down for you.
Want actual evidence? A county in NY just threw out 80k ballots in their primaries, which amounted to 25 percent of their vote, and that's not the only place that's had massive numbers of disqualified ballots. When have you heard of 25 percent of a precinct's votes needing to be struck down at in-person polling places?
The mail-in ballots of more than 84,000 New York City Democrats who sought to vote in the presidential primary were disqualified, according to new figures released by the Board of Elections. The ci…nypost.com
80,000. . . where have I heard that number before. . . OH YEAH!
Fewer than 80,000 votes swung the 2016 election.www.axios.com
Because fewer than 80k votes were the combined difference in the states that put Trump over on the EC in 2016. That's right, 1 blue district in blue ol' NY just threw out as many votes as it took to put Trump in the oval office, thanks largely to mail-in irregularities.
But no, you're right, SUPER secure.
They wouldn't have had the room to strike them down if they were cast in person, genius. My entire point is that this set up creates massive room for fraud. I give a fuck what party the fraudsters hail from.
So polling places are miles away and not local for many, and then they have to wait 5 hours in line to vote.
PLEASE STOP THIS DISENFRANCHISING of our votes.....that's CHEATING.
Mail in votes is a way to reduce the 5 hour wait times there are voting in person in crowded areas.
There are only 3 New states...actually 2 states and DC, that announced they were mailing ballots to all registered voters due to the pandemic safety issues..... No additional states than these three...have changed their laws to accommodate such an idea that I'm aware...
And here is the kicker....it's California, Nevada, and Washington DC.....
All of them are Democratic voting states.... They all voted for Hillary by majority.... California and DC big time.
Even if your baseless and ridiculous claims of somehow mailing ballots to all registered voters would cause cheating and fraud and Trump to lose.....
It's laughable that you think Trump has a cold chance in hell of ever winning the Electoral Votes in a California etc.....under any circumstance.... in other words, their purpose IS NOT to cheat via mail in....THEY DON'T NEED TO CHEAT to win! IT IS FOR SAFETY REASONS, especially for those who do want to vote in person....less people, the safer the voters and poll workers, will be who do vote in person.