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There are the USA. Politics may come and go, but there is the nation, and the nation has the interests. The significant direct US involvement in the Vietnam War started in 1964 and ended in 1973. And the USA lost in Vietnam because they didn't won in Cuba.All fucking wrong. You are also zombified. There is no "US" there is current politics in the world. The time you're talking about is the time when the leftish smacked USA into the toilet
. They were kicked out of Vietnam and install the British left-wing puppets. It was the same in the socialist camp, where Eisenhower's henchmen were overthrown and a protracted recession began all the way up to the Reagan. In the USA they ate acid and in the USSR vodka.
I don’t believe any of that nonsense. Your belief that the USSR would have nuked the US, had they had nukes in Cuba is bull shit. No evidence of this. So, attacking the USSR with nukes because they had nukes in Cuba, is dumb.Yes. It is much better to start a nuclear war by yourself first (if you are ready, of course), than wait until well prepares enemy successfully attack you. He laughs last, who shoots first.
In 1962 the Russians were preparing to the first, sudden, counter-force strike with further postattack blackmail. And right now Russian officials compare Ukrainian crisis with the Cubans Missile Crisis.
Logic if the USSR was quite simple (but, as usual, a bit paranoid) - American medium-range missiles in Europe and ICBMs in the USA are highly vulnerable, therefore it is first-strike weapon. Therefore the USA are going to achieve the Credible First Strike Capability, and ability to destroy more than 90% of the Soviet nuclear arsenal by the first strike.I don’t believe any of that nonsense. Your belief that the USSR would have nuked the US, had they had nukes in Cuba is bull shit. No evidence of this. So, attacking the USSR with nukes because they had nukes in Cuba, is dumb.
Following that “logic” the USSR should have nuked the US because the US had nukes at foreign bases surrounding the USSR and still has them there today. Fortunately, clearer heads than yours prevailed.
Why listen just to the (corrupt) government ? NGOs and individuals are just as valid a source of information, and often a much better one.I say neither one. But it is the Government which needs to say if they want help.
Why listen just to the (corrupt) government ? NGOs and individuals are just as valid a source of information, and often a much better one.
Yeah, the point is what I said (a FACT). What's your problem with it ?*yawn*
Do you actually have a point? Other than maybe trying to get me to believe in crazy theories?
When did NATO become part of the Central Banker's expansionist ambitions? Do you remember that?Really? I remember russians gave Alaska to US, but don't remember any american politician having something to do with giving Crimea to Russia... As far as I remember, the colonies were still fighting with Britain for independence, when Crimea became part of Russia...
Probably since the beginning.When did NATO become part of the Central Banker's expansionist ambitions? Do you remember that?
Oh the UN is involved altright just in a clandestine way behind the scenes.The UN won't get involved, of course. And yes, the US don't have any legal obligations to defend Ukraine.
Some cite the Budapest memorandum as such an obligation. But basically, it doesn't have the force of a treaty.
Damn straightProbably since the beginning.
It has been reported in the Washington Post (on Dec. 3 of this year) that American intelligence is assessing the ultimate size of the Russian military force amassing on the Ukrainian border at one-hundred and seventy-five thousand troops the number is already over 100K, many people think this is an omen that the country of Russia will invade Ukraine and annex it. The world has already seen how Russian President Putin stole Ukrainian territory in Russia's military conquest of Crimea in the last ten years; the media has well reported that Vladimir Putin doesn't think of Ukraine as a sovereign country but rather as part of Mother Russia. Wisdom calls for acting like Russia's invasion of Ukraine is imminent. Now America has this segment of Americans that says we shouldn't funnel huge amounts of military equipment to the country of Ukraine to defend itself against Russian aggression because doing so will provoke Russian Vladimir Putin to attack Ukraine because he will argue that America massively arming the Ukrainian army poses a security threat to Russia because Ukraine is on Russia's border so Russia has to invade and conquer Ukraine to eliminate this military threat. The proper thinking on this issue is we're past the stage of worrying about provoking Putin his amassing 175K troops on Ukrainian border should be interpreted that he is intending to invade and conquer Ukraine.
I am not a military expert and have no background in the military but I believe that America should be outstandingly generous in giving military equipment to Ukraine in order to help that country defend itself, be outstandingly accommodating to the Ukraine military leadership's request for assistance in this area. My reasoning is that the Ukrainian people are a good people over the last ten years with this ongoing Russian conflict America has had many contacts with the Ukrainian people and learned they are a good people that deserve their sovereign rights that being the right to their own country. Further, with the world struggling to come out of the Covid 19 pandemic with European countries trying to rebuild their economies which took a terrible hit from this disease the last thing in the world Europe needs is Russia conducting military expansionism and taking over the huge European country of Ukraine. Plus, the world doesn't need to go backwards to Cold War times with a Russian Empire in Eastern Europe America needs to make an outstanding effort to not go back to this security nightmare!
In regards to the issue of whether or not U.S. military personnel should be utilized to defend the country of Ukraine from a military attack from Russia. Ordinarily, I would say no the country of Ukraine is the Ukrainian citizens country it is not the American citizens country American men and women should not give their life defending Ukraine sovereignty it is the Ukrainian citizens duty to make this sacrifice. If America had a Treaty or Treaty like obligation to Ukraine that would be a different story, obviously Ukraine isn't in the Nato alliance so there is no Nato Treaty obligation; there is a matter of an agreement between America in conjunction with a whole bunch of other countries and the country of Ukraine to get Ukraine to disarm all nuclear weapons after the Cold War ended, I don't know the details of that agreement so I have no comment on that issue. But I do think that at the present time the times are extraordinary which does warrant America getting involved in a military conflict related to Russia invading Ukraine albeit in a limited manner. The reasoning goes like this if Russia invades and conquers Ukraine that is going to create a gigantic tidal wave of refugees flooding into Europe, the refugee numbers will range in the hundreds of thousands if not millions not only will this cause grave economic hardship on European countries but this will cause division between these countries (because some countries will not take these refugees or as many that need to be taken) likely so severe that it could threaten the NATO military alliance this cannot be allowed to happen America needs NATO to exist and be a strong and reliable alliance, no other option can be tolerated, so America must act on this Russia invasion matter to protect and preserve the NATO alliance. Specifically what is meant here is not deploying U.S. ground troops on Ukrainian soil what is meant here is if the Russian military invades Ukraine, U.S. air power will be used to slow, weaken and hopefully stop the invasion. U.S. air planes should be used to bomb the advancing Russian tank and troop columns; the Ukrainian military is at least a respectable modern military (they've comported themselves well in the fighting on the Eastern Ukraine border against the Russian proxies over the last eight years) with U.S. air power assistance they should be able to at least stop any Russian military invasion if not repel it out of the country of Ukraine!
www.newsweek.com
Nope.
Feel free to send your kids to die over there though....
www.express.co.uk
I think Putin will show restraint as long as NATO does.....but that is not what the bankers want. Look for NATO to provoke unnecessarily....bank ( pun intended ) on it.~~~~~~
With Russia Poised to Invade, Joe Biden's Caution Frustrates UkraineWith Russia Poised to Invade, Joe Biden's Caution Frustrates Ukraine
Current and former officials who spoke with Newsweek suggested the U.S. and its NATO allies are moving too slow to stop Russia.Commentary:
- Kyiv source accuses U.S. of "slow-balling emergency military supplies"
- Senior diplomat fears Ukraine "might become a victim" of U.S.-Russia deal
- "In a way, Putin already achieved what he wanted."
Indeed, Bai Dung gave Putin the tool to invade the Ukraine by his weakness and allowing the completion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
"They have been hampered by American hesitance to provide more potent weaponry; conspiracy theories alleging Ukrainian involvement in disproved American electoral fraud claims; the U.S. failure to block Russia's Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline; and Kyiv's delayed bid to join NATO."
I think Putin will show restraint as long as NATO does.....but that is not what the bankers want. Look for NATO to provoke unnecessarily....bank ( pun intended ) on it.
Again, feel free to send your kids over to fight for the Ukraine.~~~~~~
Russian military move on Ukraine would echo HITLER annexing the Sudete
A DECISION to send Russian tanks into Ukraine would have echoes of the catastrophic invasion of Czechoslovakia by Adolf Hitler 76 years ago, according to a leading international security expert.
NATO isn't prepared for anything because the countries who falsely claim to support NATO don't do so with their money.I don't think NATO is prepared to provoke Putin. Please note that NATO is only as strong as the U.S. For years Europe especially Germany has underfunded NATO. That was something that '45' tried to address and build up and one of the many things that Joey Xi Bai Dung has rescinded.
