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The Russian paramilitary and military regulars are the toughest Goddamned bunch of field fighters on the planet.
NATO is not a homogeneous fighting force. You are correct about their constant involvement in conflict however they mange to get slaughtered when they do get involved....why is that?Not really. All they have really been good at is intimidating their neighbors. like they have been doing since WWII. The one time tried to use force, that was over 30 years ago.
And NATO has been constantly involved in conflicts for the last 20+ years. They by far have the most experienced military force.
The Russian paramilitary and military regulars are the toughest Goddamned bunch of field fighters on the planet.
Interesting piece of military history.....learned somethingMost of the Soviet's 'elite' forces were East German units. Now all they have are thugs who are only effective against other thugs from ill-equipped border states.
Maybe the stuff I saw was the footage of their elite forces That's possible...They have some very good troops.
Most are poorly trained, poorly equipped conscripts.
Maybe the stuff I saw was the footage of their elite forces That's possible...
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Good info....good sourceDo Russian Military Officers Have A Morale Problem? Some Say Yes.
While the problem of hazing of conscripts remains a stubborn and much-documented problem in Russia’s armed forces, the issue of officers resigning in protest is less well-known.
It has been reported in the Washington Post (on Dec. 3 of this year) that American intelligence is assessing the ultimate size of the Russian military force amassing on the Ukrainian border at one-hundred and seventy-five thousand troops the number is already over 100K, many people think this is an omen that the country of Russia will invade Ukraine and annex it. The world has already seen how Russian President Putin stole Ukrainian territory in Russia's military conquest of Crimea in the last ten years; the media has well reported that Vladimir Putin doesn't think of Ukraine as a sovereign country but rather as part of Mother Russia. Wisdom calls for acting like Russia's invasion of Ukraine is imminent. Now America has this segment of Americans that says we shouldn't funnel huge amounts of military equipment to the country of Ukraine to defend itself against Russian aggression because doing so will provoke Russian Vladimir Putin to attack Ukraine because he will argue that America massively arming the Ukrainian army poses a security threat to Russia because Ukraine is on Russia's border so Russia has to invade and conquer Ukraine to eliminate this military threat. The proper thinking on this issue is we're past the stage of worrying about provoking Putin his amassing 175K troops on Ukrainian border should be interpreted that he is intending to invade and conquer Ukraine.
I am not a military expert and have no background in the military but I believe that America should be outstandingly generous in giving military equipment to Ukraine in order to help that country defend itself, be outstandingly accommodating to the Ukraine military leadership's request for assistance in this area. My reasoning is that the Ukrainian people are a good people over the last ten years with this ongoing Russian conflict America has had many contacts with the Ukrainian people and learned they are a good people that deserve their sovereign rights that being the right to their own country. Further, with the world struggling to come out of the Covid 19 pandemic with European countries trying to rebuild their economies which took a terrible hit from this disease the last thing in the world Europe needs is Russia conducting military expansionism and taking over the huge European country of Ukraine. Plus, the world doesn't need to go backwards to Cold War times with a Russian Empire in Eastern Europe America needs to make an outstanding effort to not go back to this security nightmare!
In regards to the issue of whether or not U.S. military personnel should be utilized to defend the country of Ukraine from a military attack from Russia. Ordinarily, I would say no the country of Ukraine is the Ukrainian citizens country it is not the American citizens country American men and women should not give their life defending Ukraine sovereignty it is the Ukrainian citizens duty to make this sacrifice. If America had a Treaty or Treaty like obligation to Ukraine that would be a different story, obviously Ukraine isn't in the Nato alliance so there is no Nato Treaty obligation; there is a matter of an agreement between America in conjunction with a whole bunch of other countries and the country of Ukraine to get Ukraine to disarm all nuclear weapons after the Cold War ended, I don't know the details of that agreement so I have no comment on that issue. But I do think that at the present time the times are extraordinary which does warrant America getting involved in a military conflict related to Russia invading Ukraine albeit in a limited manner. The reasoning goes like this if Russia invades and conquers Ukraine that is going to create a gigantic tidal wave of refugees flooding into Europe, the refugee numbers will range in the hundreds of thousands if not millions not only will this cause grave economic hardship on European countries but this will cause division between these countries (because some countries will not take these refugees or as many that need to be taken) likely so severe that it could threaten the NATO military alliance this cannot be allowed to happen America needs NATO to exist and be a strong and reliable alliance, no other option can be tolerated, so America must act on this Russia invasion matter to protect and preserve the NATO alliance. Specifically what is meant here is not deploying U.S. ground troops on Ukrainian soil what is meant here is if the Russian military invades Ukraine, U.S. air power will be used to slow, weaken and hopefully stop the invasion. U.S. air planes should be used to bomb the advancing Russian tank and troop columns; the Ukrainian military is at least a respectable modern military (they've comported themselves well in the fighting on the Eastern Ukraine border against the Russian proxies over the last eight years) with U.S. air power assistance they should be able to at least stop any Russian military invasion if not repel it out of the country of Ukraine!
The NATO forces are not being driven by a desire to preserve any political philosophy. They are simply the European central bankers hired thug squad.I'd be safe to assume you want war to simply stop those communists.
It's about time America learnt to mind it's own business.
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Yeah sure.The NATO forces are not being driven by a desire to preserve any political philosophy. They are simply the European central bankers hired thug squad.
Jo
Wake up....or better yet send YOUR KIDS OVER THERE NOT MINE......Yeah sure.
We would absolutely lose....if you call that fun....ah well to each his ownConservatives: Nuclear war with Russia sounds fun!
Conservatives: Nuclear war with Russia sounds fun!
As in.. the world loses, sure.We would absolutely lose....if you call that fun....ah well to each his own
however they mange to get slaughtered when they do get involved....why is that?
Big time....only Russia will remain as an organized oligarchy. The US will most likely vanish into a dozen poorly protected competing sub-states.As in.. the world loses, sure.
Conservative, to be clear - you think Russia prevails in a nuclear military confrontation vs the United States?Big time....only Russia will remain as an organized oligarchy. The US will most likely vanish into a dozen poorly protected competing sub-states.
Jo
