Zone1 The Ten Commandments don't apply to us.

[Woodznutz]

We dont believe in miracles. We believe in ourselves.

"We ourselves" are evidence of miracles.

 

[Hafar1014]

"We ourselves" are evidence of miracles.

No its the ability to kick some ass

 

[Votto]

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But if you keep the Golden Rule, you will keep the 10 commandments.

That is the point.

 

[The Irish Ram]

In your delusional beliefs,..... you fail to see that The Ten Commandments Covenant, is a Covenant of Love

The law is not about love, it is about sin. The new covenant of Jesus is love.
Again, here is what Christ says specifically about the 10 commandments and love:

Romans 13:8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.

And here comes Jesus again:
Heb. 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.

^ Using the above scripture, explain to us where Jesus went wrong concerning the 10 commandments. He said love trumps rules. You say stick with the rules. Convince us that Christ was wrong and you are right...

 

[frigidweirdo]

. You just don't like, understand, or agree with my answers.

You are right. I don't.

I don't understand answers that make stuff up. I don't like answers that are cherry picking things, ignoring one thing, and accepting another things. And I don't agree with your answers because I find such things as inherently wrong. Trying to make the Bible fit your views, rather than the other way around.

 

[frigidweirdo]

"We ourselves" are evidence of miracles.

How's that?

What is a "miracle"?

Something you don't understand?

Is rain a miracle?

 

[BreezeWood]

But if you keep the Golden Rule, you will keep the 10 commandments.

That is the point.

that is the fallacy of the three desert religions, using the same false commandments madeup by the liar and murder moses in the preamble of all three of their bibles.

there are no commandments from the heavens and in no way is the golden rule commensurant to those autocratic, self serving commandments used throughout history to persecute and victimize the innocent..

 

[BreezeWood]

“You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, ...

nothing more than flagrant 4th century embellishment -

the very opposite of the 1st century events and for which nearly all of jesus comments are in repudiation of each of the false commandments as the very difference between love and hate.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Breeze, you are an island unto yourself...

 

[Woodznutz]

You are right. I don't.

I don't understand answers that make stuff up. I don't like answers that are cherry picking things, ignoring one thing, and accepting another things. And I don't agree with your answers because I find such things as inherently wrong. Trying to make the Bible fit your views, rather than the other way around.

Got an example?

 

[Woodznutz]

How's that?

What is a "miracle"?

Something you don't understand?

Is rain a miracle?

Against the backdrop of a lifeless universe, I'd say that most everything on earth is a miracle.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Got an example?

Yeah, the whole of the argument we've had on this thread.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Against the backdrop of a lifeless universe, I'd say that most everything on earth is a miracle.

Isn't that convenient. Everything is a miracle.

Define a miracle.

 

[Woodznutz]

Isn't that convenient. Everything is a miracle.

Define a miracle.

The whole creation is a miraculous event. Hopefully science will come to that conclusion in time.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah, the whole of the argument we've had on this thread.

And you didn't understand a word I said.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The whole creation is a miraculous event. Hopefully science will come to that conclusion in time.

How do you know it's "miraculous"? Maybe it happens ALL THE TIME.

Can you see anything beyond what we know to make that assumption?

Perhaps every atom in our universe is a universe. Perhaps our universe is just one atom among the 10^80 atoms in someone else's universe. And that what happens here, happened trillions of times in our universe alone, and then every atom has trillions of times in another universe.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And you didn't understand a word I said.

I understood what you said. It's just cherry picking and made up.

You talk about the Ark and you said "well, there wasn't a storm", even though the Bible mentions a storm. You wanted to ignore the storm because it wasn't convenient for your argument.

That is cherry picking.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah, the whole of the argument we've had on this thread.

Answering specific questions isn't cherry picking.

"Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally."

On the contrary you have 'cherry picked' your arguments in the form of "yabut" questions.

 

[Woodznutz]

How do you know it's "miraculous"? Maybe it happens ALL THE TIME.

Can you see anything beyond what we know to make that assumption?

Perhaps every atom in our universe is a universe. Perhaps our universe is just one atom among the 10^80 atoms in someone else's universe. And that what happens here, happened trillions of times in our universe alone, and then every atom has trillions of times in another universe.

Interesting thought.

 

[Woodznutz]

I understood what you said. It's just cherry picking and made up.

You talk about the Ark and you said "well, there wasn't a storm", even though the Bible mentions a storm. You wanted to ignore the storm because it wasn't convenient for your argument.

That is cherry picking.

The narrative doesn't support a "storm", regardless of traditional paintings of the event. Such paintings don't represent what the ark actually looked like either.