Zone1 The Ten Commandments don't apply to us.

[Woodznutz]

You're going to need to explain that one to me, it doesn't make sense right now.

It was clearly meant to mean 'rain in due season'. Perhaps even a drought breaking rain. Not a violent storm. That wouldn't be a blessing.

The forty days of rain of Noah's flood clearly was meant for some purpose but it wasn't the flood waters as it simply would run off into the sea. Also, the rain stopped at the very time that the flood waters reached the ark, yet the flood continued for months.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

The ten commandments can be considered part of the "beggardly elements" of the law, in that they cannot convert the "inner man" to righteousness. As they do no harm to neighbor, they do little good as well.

And Yet,.... The Messiah stated that One had to Keep The Ten, & by the way,.... That "Covenant" will be permanently placed in the "Hearts/Minds" of those who Believe, and are Willing to Die for that Belief.

But Hey! Big THANG! Right????

If Yer Pastor, Rabbi, Priest, "Spiritual Leader", has taught You something different, that contradicts He, who Yer supposed to be completely following,......... No Big Deal Right?!?

What could possibly be a problem about being Denied Entry in to The Kingdom of Heaven,..... Wherever Ya'll end up,.... Think of the Non-stop parties.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

So when the Bible said: Genesis 6:17 "Look! I am about to cover the earth with a flood that will destroy every living thing that breathes. Everything on earth will die."

"19 Bring a pair of every kind of animal—a male and a female—into the boat with you to keep them alive during the flood."

"20 Pairs of every kind of bird, and every kind of animal, and every kind of small animal that scurries along the ground, will come to you to be kept alive. "

Which bit excludes fish?

From 17 to 21, God is giving instructions, and not one of these instructions said "on don't be a daft ******, don't bring fish".

I said people cherry picked. This is what this says in this part. God told him to take fish.

The "Fish" were/are Good in Water Frig.

The Land animals were/are Good only for a very short time in water,.... Till they drown.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Regardless of how hard it rained there was no "storm" that threatened the integrity of the ark.

No Ark either. But that's a different story.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It was clearly meant to mean 'rain in due season'. Perhaps even a drought breaking rain. Not a violent storm. That wouldn't be a blessing.

The forty days of rain of Noah's flood clearly was meant for some purpose but it wasn't the flood waters as it simply would run off into the sea. Also, the rain stopped at the very time that the flood waters reached the ark, yet the flood continued for months.

No, I don't think it "clearly" means what you're trying to say it means at all.

In Malachi, it's not talking about rain. In Genesis it is.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The "Fish" were/are Good in Water Frig.

The Land animals were/are Good only for a very short time in water,.... Till they drown.

That's not the point.

The point is what God said.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Messiah stated that One had to Keep The Ten, & by the way,....

never -

there has not been such as a messiah from the heavens nor will there ever be one - jesus refuted the false commandments of judaism used to persecute and victimize the innocent that is a cornerstone for what they conveyed as the path to the everlasting guided by liberation theology, self determination.

 

[ding]

never -

there has not been such as a messiah from the heavens nor will there ever be one - jesus refuted the false commandments of judaism used to persecute and victimize the innocent that is a cornerstone for what they conveyed as the path to the everlasting guided by liberation theology, self determination.

How do you know?

 

[Votto]

that is the fallacy of the three desert religions, using the same false commandments madeup by the liar and murder moses in the preamble of all three of their bibles.

there are no commandments from the heavens and in no way is the golden rule commensurant to those autocratic, self serving commandments used throughout history to persecute and victimize the innocent..

Actually, it is just common sense

The Golden Rule is to love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself.

If you do this, which of the 10 commandments could you break?

It's like my Pappy used to say, "Keep it simple stupid!"

 

[Woodznutz]

That's not the point.

The point is what God said.

The story doesn't mention fish, only animals on dry land.

 

[Woodznutz]

No, I don't think it "clearly" means what you're trying to say it means at all.

In Malachi, it's not talking about rain. In Genesis it is.

Rain in due season was one of the greatest blessings that God conferred upon Israel, as Israel's economic and social structure was centered on agriculture.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The story doesn't mention fish, only animals on dry land.

It mentions all creatures, all flesh.

It does NOT mention only animals on dry land. Stop cherry picking.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Rain in due season was one of the greatest blessings that God conferred upon Israel, as Israel's economic and social structure was centered on agriculture.

So?

 

[Woodznutz]

It mentions all creatures, all flesh.

It does NOT mention only animals on dry land. Stop cherry picking.

So, Noah took fish onto the ark to save them from drowning?

 

[Woodznutz]

So?

So, opening the windows of heaven doesn't mean a violent gully washing storm. That wasn't the purpose of the forty days of rain. In fact, it would have the opposite effect.

 

[rosends]

So, Noah took fish onto the ark to save them from drowning?

How did the fish live through the flood?

If the waters were boiling as the flood continued, how did the fish survive throughout the Mabul?

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[Woodznutz]

How did the fish live through the flood?

If the waters were boiling as the flood continued, how did the fish survive throughout the Mabul?

judaism.stackexchange.com

I'm guessing many freshwater species died but were restored by God. The flood was another 'ruin/restoration' event.

 

[Woodznutz]

And Yet,.... The Messiah stated that One had to Keep The Ten, & by the way,.... That "Covenant" will be permanently placed in the "Hearts/Minds" of those who Believe, and are Willing to Die for that Belief.

But Hey! Big THANG! Right????

If Yer Pastor, Rabbi, Priest, "Spiritual Leader", has taught You something different, that contradicts He, who Yer supposed to be completely following,......... No Big Deal Right?!?

What could possibly be a problem about being Denied Entry in to The Kingdom of Heaven,..... Wherever Ya'll end up,.... Think of the Non-stop parties.

Keeping the literal commandments was a placeholder for those who would be called to keep them in their higher meaning. To the converted Christian the ten commandments are sort of archaic.

 

[Woodznutz]

How did the fish live through the flood?

If the waters were boiling as the flood continued, how did the fish survive throughout the Mabul?

judaism.stackexchange.com

Boiled fish! Yum!

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, Noah took fish onto the ark to save them from drowning?

Exactly.

The Bible doesn't make sense.

Is the Noah's Ark story true? No, it's clearly not.

Noah's Ark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Accordingly, Noah's instructions are given to him by God (Genesis 6:14–16): the ark is to be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high (approximately 134×22×13 m or 440×72×43 ft). These dimensions are thought by some to be based on a numerological preoccupation with the number 60, the same number characterizing the vessel of the Babylonian flood hero."

The size of the ark wasn't based on a real ship, or whatever kind of box you want to call it. It was based on religion.

"Its three internal divisions reflect the three-part universe imagined by the ancient Israelites: heaven, the earth, and the underworld. Each deck is the same height as the Temple in Jerusalem, itself a microcosmic model of the universe, and each is three times the area of the court of the tabernacle, leading to the suggestion that the author saw both Ark and tabernacle as serving for the preservation of human life. It has a door in the side, and a tsohar, which may be either a roof or a skylight. It is to be made of gopher wood "goper", a word which appears nowhere else in the Bible, but thought to be a loan word from the Akkadian gupru – and divided into qinnim, a word which always refers to birds' nests elsewhere in the Bible, leading some scholars to emend this to qanim, reeds. The finished vessel is to be smeared with koper, meaning pitch or bitumen; in Hebrew the two words are closely related, kaparta ("smeared") ... bakopper. Bitumen is the more likely option, as "koper" is thought to be a loanword from the Akkadian "kupru", meaning bitumen."

The Ark is symbolic. Nothing more.