Zone1 The Second Coming of Christ

[hobelim]

Not as funny as you believing Paul's letters prove your batshit crazy conspiracy theory that Paul was a shill for Rome, hated Jesus and was a guilt ridden self loathing masochistic homophobic misogynist.

Sure, it is really simple and painfully obvious.

Paul, like your ascetic guilt ridden self loathing masochistic homophobic misogynistic church just like every Christian denomination on earth is promoting the exact same perverse and ignorant literal interpretation of Divine Law that Jesus openly lived and died opposing.

Now splain to me how you're not a guilt ridden, self loathing, homophobic, misogynistic hypocrite (given your obsession with man ass) who's been duped by Paul into believing that practicing idolatry will save you from the penalty, the death, a curse, for practicing idolatry.



Take your time..... sucker.

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't care how many times Christ comes. The only one who matters is the Messiah. When he comes then I'll take notice.

Christ is Messiah.

No, he is not.

Christos: Greek
Mashiach: Hebrew

They mean the same thing.

What is your point?
Idiot: English
Idiote: French
They mean the same thing.

And according to the narrative, he came. No need to wait.

Yes, that's right. Jesus came. But the Messiah hasn't come yet so in order for the prophecy to be fulfilled there is a need to wait. Now, if it's ice cream you want dad has already come home from Häagen-Dazs so there is no need to wait for that.

 

[Quantrill]

When Caesar conferred power and Authority to the papacy and said under the sign of the cross, i will conquer the world. He was speaking about the Mithran cross.View attachment 1202950
You might want to notice that many thousands of people including Jesus were crucified on this cross. It is also seen on the Eucharist. The mithran cross of light.

Now you try to convince me that I don’t see what I see and don’t know what I know.

Good luck!

How about that rod of Aaron that destroyed your magicians rods. (Ex. 7:11-12) You have proved you don't know shit about the Bible. And you aint got the balls to admit it .

Tell me who your god is and maybe I can answer the question. I have asked many times and you refuse to answer. So, who is your god whose law has been set aside? Where is his law written?

Concerning the cross of Mithra, gee, every time I look down my rifle through the sights, I see a cross. Must be a conspiracy. The Roman church is running guns.

Again, all you are doing is giving similarities between religions. That is not a conspiracy. Show me the proof of men getting together since the Bible was first being written and devised this conspiracy. Who were they. What was their organization. Where are the records of there meetings?

I already showed you what you don't know with (Ex. 7:11-12). As to what you know, I haven't seen yet.

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

How about that rod of Aaron that destroyed your magicians rods. (Ex. 7:11-12)

Are you hard of reading too? Thats a shame! Same question. Same answer. Schmuck.

I tell you what. You splain to me how setting aside the law of my God as clearly stated in the Bible and turning into a lifeless piece of bread made by human hands for spiritual life is not idolatry, not to mention stupid, and how can you possible imagine that you are not already dead and under a curse for doing so (if you really believed in God) given you can't see the absurdity of where you stand, as a so called "believer" and I will answer this question.

Pinche payaso.

 

[hobelim]

Show me the proof of men getting together since the Bible was first being written and devised this conspiracy. Who were they. What was their organization. Where are the records of there meetings?

The Council of Nicaea (325 ce) was the first ecumenical council, convened by Emperor Constantine to unite the Christian Church by resolving the Arian controversy (whether Jesus was fully divine) and standardizing practices like the date of Easter, resulting in the Nicene Creed, which affirmed Christ's co-eternality with God, and established foundational church doctrines and canons.

If you want to see the records, ask the Pope.

Any other questions?

 

[Quantrill]

Are you hard of reading too? Thats a shame! Same question. Same answer. Schmuck.

I tell you what. You splain to me how setting aside the law of my God as clearly stated in the Bible and turning into a lifeless piece of bread made by human hands for spiritual life is not idolatry, not to mention stupid, and how can you possible imagine that you are not already dead and under a curse for doing so (if you really believed in God) given you can't see the absurdity of where you stand, as a so called "believer" and I will answer this question.

Pinche payaso.

I can't answer your question if I don't know who your god is. What is his name? I can't answer your question if I don't know what the law of your god is. Where is this law of your god written? Is it in the same place that said the Pharoah's magicians rods ate up Aarons rod? Which is bull shit. (Ex. 7:11-12)

Chile Con Carne

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

I can't answer your question if I don't know who your god is. What is his name? I can't answer your question if I don't know what the law of your god is. Where is this law of your god written?

There is no one who can demonstrate just how full of shit you are better than you just did.

Good job!

You are dismissed.

 

[Quantrill]

The Council of Nicaea (325 ce) was the first ecumenical council, convened by Emperor Constantine to unite the Christian Church by resolving the Arian controversy (whether Jesus was fully divine) and standardizing practices like the date of Easter, resulting in the Nicene Creed, which affirmed Christ's co-eternality with God, and established foundational church doctrines and canons.

If you want to see the records, ask the Pope.

Any other questions?

Just because there was a church council doesn't prove a conspiracy. And this conspiracy you make accusation of, must go back to when the Bible was first being written. It can't just start in 4th century A.D.

Well, if you have no proof of this conspiracy you speak of, then your accusation is null and void. And you're full of shit.

You haven't answered any questions yet to be able to ask for more.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

There is no one who can demonstrate just how full of shit you are better than you just did.

Good job!

You are dismissed.

You could demonstrate it if you first answer the questions. I can't answer yours without knowing who your god is. Who is he? What is his name? Where are his laws found so I can read them?

You're a phony. A fake.

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

And this conspiracy you make accusation of, must go back to when the Bible was first being written. It can't just start in 4th century A.D.

What started in the 4th century, what was first unleashed on the world, is the terrifying tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist, YOUR god, a substitute counterfeit Jesus that never existed, a trinity that diddled a virgin to become an innocent sacrificial Jewish man.

The bloody history of your church is all the proof and confirmation in reality that is needed.

Pinche payaso.

 

[Quantrill]

What started in the 4th century, what was first unleashed on the world, is the terrifying tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist, YOUR god, a substitute counterfeit Jesus that never existed, a trinity that diddled a virgin to become an innocent sacrificial Jewish man.

The bloody history of your church is all the proof and confirmation in reality that is needed.

Pinche payaso.

The history of the Church goes back to (Acts 2), first century. Which goes back to the Jews and the Old Testament. Which goes back to the beginning of the writing of the Bible.

Just bringing up some history of the Church doesn't provide any proof of a conspiracy. It is just you accusing of a conspiracy. You have nothing...as usual.

My God is the God of the Bible. And Jesus Christ is that 2nd Person of the Trinity, the God/Man. And God's written Word is found only in the Bible. I am not ashamed to say who my God is and to identify with His Son, Jesus Christ the Savour of the world.

If Jesus Christ is a 'counterfeit' as you say, where is this supposed 'real jesus christ'? Where is this 'real jesus' written about? Is it the same place you said the Pharaohs magicians' rods ate Aaron's rod? See (Ex. 7:11-12)

Chile Con Carne

Quantrill

 

[norwegen]

No, he is not.

Yes, he is. Hebrew-speaking Jews and Greek-speaking Jews believed in a deliverer. Singular.

What is your point?
Idiot: English
Idiote: French
They mean the same thing.

Exactly. Just like Christos and Mashiach mean the same thing. Good job.

Yes, that's right. Jesus came. But the Messiah hasn't come yet so in order for the prophecy to be fulfilled there is a need to wait. Now, if it's ice cream you want dad has already come home from Häagen-Dazs so there is no need to wait for that.

Yes, Jesus came, as the Christian Jews believed he would. They believed he judged Judea in AD 70, in the generation foretold. Read Revelation; it's the Revelator's account of the war in which it happened.

If you want to believe the Jewish Messiah is still going to come, I won't stop you. You're the only one, though. You and some fundamentalist and dispensationalist Christians.

 

[hobelim]

The history of the Church goes back to (Acts 2), first century...≥
If Jesus Christ is a 'counterfeit' as you say, where is this supposed 'real jesus christ'?

I heard that the real Jesus was "taken up" into hebbin and was obscured by a cloud before any church was established. I also noticed in your Bible the disciples did not understand what the real Jesus meant many times by the nutty things he said. I also heard that the real Jesus will emerge from the clouds and the dead in christ will rise at the sounding of the last trumpet, (trumpet being a metaphor for a prophet as Elijah was called the trumpet of God).

So keep in mind that the real Jesus said that he is the first and the last which is not a claim of being God but a claim of being a prophet. The prophet. So if someone with a different name comes and explains the nutty things the real Jesus said so that every eye will see him try to understand that your time, the time of the Gentiles, is being fulfilled and coming to a spectacular end. And a new age will begin with a new heaven and a new earth.

Can I get a hee haw? An oink oink? A woof woof? A moo moo? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?

 

[Quantrill]

I heard that the real Jesus was "taken up" into hebbin and was obscured by a cloud before any church was established. I also notice in your Bible the disciples did not understand what the real Jesus meant many times by the nutty things he said. I also heard that the real Jesus will emerge from the clouds at the sounding of the last trumpet, (trumpet being a metaphor for a prophet as Elijah was called the trumpet of God).

So keep in mind that the real Jesus said that he is the first and the last which is not a claim of Divinity but a claim of being a prophet. The prophet. So if someone with a different name comes and explains the nutty things the real Jesus said so that every eye will see him try to understand that your time, the time of the Gentiles, is being fulfilled and is coming to a spectacular end.

Can I get a Hee haw? An Oink oink? A woof woof? A moo moo? A quack quack?

But you hear a lot of things that you apparently know nothing about. Then you try and present them as truth when they are just bullshit. And you spread it.

Where did the real Jesus say, 'I am the first and the last'? Are you saying the real Jesus is the Jesus of the Bible? If the real Jesus is the Jesus of the Bible, then how is He both the real and the counterfeit? Where is this god of yours? What is his name? Where are his writings? Can he read and write?

No, but you can get a 'bullshit'. How's that for farm etiquette?

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

Where did the real Jesus say, 'I am the first and the last'? Are you saying the real Jesus is the Jesus of the Bible? If the real Jesus is the Jesus of the Bible, then how is He both the real and the counterfeit? Where is this god of yours? What is his name? Where are his writings? Can he read and write?

So many questions. So little time.

You have the Bible, the Law and the Prophets, the NT, and the rest. You figure it out. For some mysterious reason even claiming to be literate you "believe" that a trinity became a sacrificial Jewish man that can be turned into a matzo by a priest so morons like you can defy the Law of my God not die and sin with impunity for life as long as you celebrate the death of Jesus set aside the Law of God and practice idolatry to be saved from the penalty, death, a curse, for practicing idolatry. Psst! You are dead. You died a very long time ago.

The stench of your corruption is great.

So **** off. The only thing you're proving by stalking me is how right I am, how insecure you are about your delusional beliefs, and how much the very truth disturbs your slumber.

If you had any faith at all you would have just said, "I fucked up", "I was schnookered."

And changed your diapers.

 

[GLASNOST]

Yes, he is. Hebrew-speaking Jews and Greek-speaking Jews believed in a deliverer. Singular.

Exactly. Just like Christos and Mashiach mean the same thing. Good job.


Yes, Jesus came, as the Christian Jews believed he would. They believed he judged Judea in AD 70, in the generation foretold. Read Revelation; it's the Revelator's account of the war in which it happened.

If you want to believe the Jewish Messiah is still going to come, I won't stop you. You're the only one, though. You and some fundamentalist and dispensationalist Christians.

Total nonsense. You are so concerned with words that you completely fail to understand content. Furthermore, you seem to believe that Christianity defines the concept of the Messiah. Christians didn't invent the Messiah any more than Ford invented the motorcar. You are arguing from a point of complete illogic.

 

[ding]

So there were embellishments in the NT, just not the 40 or so miracles and resurrection?

I think you should focus on the miracles you claim are embellished to show what was true and what was embellished. And I think you should do this for all of them. Unless of course you aren't interested in the truth.

 

[ding]

You can believe it but you can't prove it.

All the evidence points to it; Christian and Jewish manuscripts, accounts from non-Christian historians, the actions of the first Jewish Christians and no texts or history which disputes it. By your own words... you would have believed if you had witnessed it. The first Jewish Christians did witness it and that's why they all did what they did.

 

[ding]

You don't know what is in other people's hearts, you only think you do. Maybe the hijackers motives were the same as Paul's, a love of God?

Maybe you could convince yourself that flying a plane into a tower is motivated by love, but I can't.

And you continue to dismiss the consequences of Paul's choices and actions. Paul is your proof the miracles were historical events. As are all of the first Jewish Christians.

 

[ding]

Depends on where the Holy Spirit comes from, from God or from you. I'll go with the later in the absence of evidence to the contrary.

Spoken like someone who has never tested it before.