Zone1 James 1: the perfect law of liberty

[HikerGuy83]

James 1 and the entire book of James brings together several concepts taught in the bible and not acknowledged.

And it certainly does not support that idea that confession, alone, brings about exhalation.

We can start with versus 2-4:

2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

Why, would it be a reason to be joyful to fall into temptation.

And how is that trying your faith worketh patience and that patience makes you perfect?

You should be perfect? Or trying to be?

Matthew 5:48 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Now, some will argue that the word perfect can mean different things. Whatever you accept, it applies the God of the Universe too. So that is just quibbling.

Jesus is telling you to "be" as your Father in Heaven. That isn't a request.

It's a directive.

Unraveling it takes a whole lifetime and beyond.

But no, just accepting and then calling it good.

 

[Meriweather]

Now, some will argue that the word perfect can mean different things. Whatever you accept, it applies the God of the Universe too. So that is just quibbling.

Perfect has evolved to mean different things. The closest meaning in Hebrew and Biblical times is completion. It has always reminded me of one of my favorite sayings: Good enough never is. God does not settle for "good enough" and nor should we.

 

[Winston]

James 1 and the entire book of James brings together several concepts taught in the bible and not acknowledged.

And it certainly does not support that idea that confession, alone, brings about exhalation.

We can start with versus 2-4:

2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

Why, would it be a reason to be joyful to fall into temptation.

And how is that trying your faith worketh patience and that patience makes you perfect?

You should be perfect? Or trying to be?

Matthew 5:48 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Now, some will argue that the word perfect can mean different things. Whatever you accept, it applies the God of the Universe too. So that is just quibbling.

Jesus is telling you to "be" as your Father in Heaven. That isn't a request.

It's a directive.

Unraveling it takes a whole lifetime and beyond.

But no, just accepting and then calling it good.

James may very well be my favorite book in the Bible. It is my understanding that the book was circulated like a poster on a telephone pole. But in that book,

If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

James 2:15-17

 

[HikerGuy83]

James may very well be my favorite book in the Bible. It is my understanding that the book was circulated like a poster on a telephone pole. But in that book,

If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

James 2:15-17

We will eventually reach that in the progression of this thread.

Thank you for pointing it out as part of the fundamental premise.