Zone1 Christadelphians?

[DennisPTate]

On Wednesday night I went to a meeting that I thought has got to be a branch of the Worldwide Church of God but no, this was an entirely different church that apparently has over fifty thousand members worldwide.

I noticed immediately that one of the advantages that this church has over the WWCG is that they are NOT non-Prostylitizing as the WWCG used to be. I am impressed that this group actually wants to meet and begin to mentor people who might just be interested in their movement.

Christadelphians are a non-trinitarian, millennialist Christian group founded in the 19th century, emphasizing strict biblical authority, the imminent return of Jesus to establish God’s kingdom on earth, and believers' baptism. They reject mainstream doctrines like the Trinity, the immortality of the soul, and a personal devil, operating through autonomous local congregations known as "ecclesias".
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Core Beliefs and Practices

• Bible Authority: They believe the Bible is the inspired, error-free word of God and the sole authority for doctrine.
• Unitarian View of God:They believe in one God (the Father) and that Jesus is the Son of God, not God himself, and was sinless but shared human nature
• • Jesus' Return & Kingdom: They believe Jesus will return to Earth to set up the Kingdom of God, ruling from Jerusalem, and that the dead will be raised for judgment.
  • Salvation: Achieved through belief in the Gospel and baptism by immersion.
  • Rejection of Specific Doctrines: They do not believe in the Trinity, the pre-existence of Christ, the immortal soul, a literal devil/Satan, or heaven-going.
  • Lifestyle: They generally do not vote, engage in politics, or participate in military service
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• Organization and Structure
  • Ecclesias: Local congregations, or "ecclesias," are autonomous, with no central headquarters or paid clergy.
  • Origins: The movement was founded by Dr. John Thomas in the 1840s-1860s, primarily in the UK and North America.
  • Membership: There are approximately 50,000–70,000 members worldwide, with a strong presence in the UK, North America, Australia, and parts of Africa and Asia.
  • Worship: Services, typically on Sunday, focus on bible readings, hymn singing, and the breaking of bread (communion)

• Key Terminology
  • Christadelphian: Means "brothers and sisters in Christ".
  • Ecclesia: A Greek term used for a local church gathering
  
  
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• My guess is that there might just be thousands if not tens of thousands of former members of the Worldwide Church of God within this interesting group.

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[EdwinAMartin]

According to the New Testament, all Christians are called to testify and proselytize, aren't they? It was the pseudo-Jewish Babylonian Jews and their progeny the Pharisees that turned away from Abraham and Moses and the written Torah and turned what is modern 'Judaism' into a racist isolationist cult that worships the Talmud instead of the written Torah, not Christians. Of course there are Christian Jews, Mandeans, Reformed, and other sects that reject the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox nonsense and recognize that monotheism is implicitly universalist, or 'little c' catholic.

 

[DennisPTate]

According to the New Testament, all Christians are called to testify and proselytize, aren't they? It was the pseudo-Jewish Babylonian Jews and their progeny the Pharisees that turned away from Abraham and Moses and the written Torah and turned what is modern 'Judaism' into a racist isolationist cult that worships the Talmud instead of the written Torah, not Christians. Of course there are Christian Jews, Mandeans, Reformed, and other sects that reject the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox nonsense and recognize that monotheism is implicitly universalist, or 'little c' catholic.

Wow!

Your answer is fascinating EdwinAMartin.

What do you personally think of the theory put forward by former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava that there are a rather tiny group of Jews, who are NOT Jewish at all, but they may attempt to dress and appear to be Jewish?

I get the impression from Rabbi Alon Anava that the "Eruv Rav" group of people have played a role in virtually every pogrom or Holocaust or disaster that has came upon the Jewish people since the time of Moses.

www.AlonAnava.com/

Who is The Erev Rav? Do they 'run' the world? Are they an evil regime with a lot of power? - Part 1​

Frankly some members of the Eruv Rav may attempt to dress up and appear and sound, like members of various religious organizations where there is a lot of wealth and influence.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

DennisPTate

Have you read this book?

Introduction | Judaism— Revelation of Moses Or Religion of Men?

Book: Judaism— Revelation of Moses Or Religion of Men?

www.cbcg.org

It gives a pretty detailed exegesis and history of the invention of 'Rabbinical Judaism' by the early 2nd Century. It is generally accurate re the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox cults. Read it and let me know what you think.

 

[DennisPTate]

DennisPTate

Have you read this book?

Introduction | Judaism— Revelation of Moses Or Religion of Men?

Book: Judaism— Revelation of Moses Or Religion of Men?

www.cbcg.org

It gives a pretty detailed exegesis and history of the invention of 'Rabbinical Judaism' by the early 2nd Century. It is generally accurate re the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox cults. Read it and let me know what you think.

I haven't read that one yet. Most of my research of Judaism has consisted so far of listening to lecture after lecture by Rabbi Alon Anava.

During his seven minute near death experience back in 2001 he was even shown that the "computer coding" for this universe is in the form of the twenty two letters of the Hebrew alphabet.

The Hebrew letters that create the world​

 

[EdwinAMartin]

What do you personally think of the theory put forward by former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava that there are a rather tiny group of Jews, who are NOT Jewish at all, but they may attempt to dress and appear to be Jewish?

I get the impression from Rabbi Alon Anava that the "Eruv Rav" group of people have played a role in virtually every pogrom or Holocaust or disaster that has came upon the Jewish people since the time of Moses.

I don't really pay much attention to ultra-Orthodox lunacy. I do get a laugh out of their rubbish that Christians are 'idol worshippers n stuff', meanwhile the history of rabbinical Judaism is littered with crazy 'messiahs' and general weirdness. The average Baptist is more Jewish theologically than most of the Orthodox and all of the ultra-Orthodox. There are a few I respect for their honesty, like Rabbi Mayer Schiller and a few others.

Mayer Schiller - Wikipedia

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"Rabbi Mayer Schiller (born June 1951) is an American chasid based in Monsey, New York, who identifies himself as a member of Skver and Rachmastrivka groups, and is a spokesperson for the Skver community in New Square. Schiller also maintains active ties to the Modern Orthodox community. He taught at Marsha Stern Talmudical Academy of Yeshiva University, He is a baal teshuva, having begun practicing Orthodoxy in the spring of 1964 at age 12.

He is a nationalist who criticizes liberal notions of race and the bias against traditional religion in today's media and popular culture. He has been associated with various groups, including the Third Way (UK) and the Ulster Third Way. However, Schiller has also advocated a universalist morality and embrace of the Other, provided that is pursued without loss to group identity. He is involved with the group Toward Tradition, which seeks to advance co-operation between Orthodox Jews and conservative Christians, for example, on issues like abortion, marriage, family, religious schools, and religious freedom."

A good interview with the Rabbi from Jewish Review

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He makes many excellent points.

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't really pay much attention to ultra-Orthodox lunacy. I do get a laugh out of their rubbish that Christians are 'idol worshippers n stuff', meanwhile the history of rabbinical Judaism is littered with crazy 'messiahs' and general weirdness. The average Baptist is more Jewish theologically than most of the Orthodox and all of the ultra-Orthodox. There are a few I respect for their honesty, like Rabbi Mayer Schiller and a few others.

Mayer Schiller - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Rabbi Mayer Schiller (born June 1951) is an American chasid based in Monsey, New York, who identifies himself as a member of Skver and Rachmastrivka groups, and is a spokesperson for the Skver community in New Square. Schiller also maintains active ties to the Modern Orthodox community. He taught at Marsha Stern Talmudical Academy of Yeshiva University, He is a baal teshuva, having begun practicing Orthodoxy in the spring of 1964 at age 12.

He is a nationalist who criticizes liberal notions of race and the bias against traditional religion in today's media and popular culture. He has been associated with various groups, including the Third Way (UK) and the Ulster Third Way. However, Schiller has also advocated a universalist morality and embrace of the Other, provided that is pursued without loss to group identity. He is involved with the group Toward Tradition, which seeks to advance co-operation between Orthodox Jews and conservative Christians, for example, on issues like abortion, marriage, family, religious schools, and religious freedom."

A good interview with the Rabbi from Jewish Review

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He makes many excellent points.

Yes... he makes many excellent points.

"An original and highly unusual thinker, Rabbi Schiller asks difficult questions that are frequentlyavoided, and like the child who revealed the secret about the emperors clothes, he exposes many of theshibboleths of Jewish life and thought. In this wide ranging conversation with Jewish Review editor,Sanford Drob and publisher, Harris Z. Tilevitz, Rabbi Schiller discusses a series of related questionsconcerning Jewish education and participation in American culture, the attitude of the Jew towardsGentiles both in Galut and in Israel and tensions between Jewish democratic liberalism and Zionistnationalism. Rather than offer us easy solutions, Rabbi Schiller awakens us to the call of some veryserious and important questions"

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I personally have noticed some aspects of "Jewish Thought" that has obviously been perpetuated by a tiny segment of "Jews" but these ideas have caused an astonishing amount of suffering for ninety nine plus percent of Jews.

For example... by the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt Rabbi Akiva seems to have felt that the Messianic Jewish Community of the second century were the most dangerous and scary people on earth. Apparently Rabbi Akiva advised Simon Bar Kochba that as soon as he led the armies of Judah to defeat the Romans that those [perhaps 400,00 or so], Messianic Jews, followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus as Messiah the Passover Lamb, must be expelled from the Holy Land.

In the year 2026 this could be compared with a modern powerful Rabbi teaching that all Breslovian Chassidic Jews, the followers of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, must be expelled from the nation of Israel!

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The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to follow the Messiah, he had to convert to Judaism. Then Peter had a revelation that Gentiles did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved (see Acts 10). The Jerusalem Council meeting determined that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised. There were only four easily followed requirements. They were to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). After all, James said, they could learn more about God by hear- ing the words of Moses every Saturday in the syna- gogue (see Acts 15:21). This opened the door to widespread church growth among the Gentiles. So many Gentiles were saved that the Jewish believers became a minority.

The first Jewish followers of Jesus were called Nazarenes (part of the Essenes sect of Judaism dis- cussed in Chapter 3). They practiced traditional Judaism and were widely accepted by unbelieving Jews. Early in the second century their numbers reached 400,000.1 In the Book of Acts, the early church fathers said to Paul: You see, brother, how many myriads [tens of thousands] of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (Acts 21:20).

The Nazarenes acceptance by traditional Jews came to a halt in A.D. 135 when Rabbi Akiba declared that Bar Kochba was the Jewish Messiah. His followers hoped he would lead them to victory over the Romans. The Nazarenes refused to fight because they believed Jesus was the true Messiah rather than Bar Kochba. They were branded traitors, not because they believed in Jesus, but because they would not join Bar Kochbas armed struggle. Bar Kochba and his followers were quickly slaughtered by the Romans. Afterward, Jews were banned from Jerusalem.

History shows that as the center of the Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Rome, it became increasingly Hellenized, adopting pagan customs and philosophies rather than the God-ordained practices and beliefs of the Bible. At the same time, Christianity became increasingly anti-Jewish."

[Sid Roth from his book The Incomplete Church, Chapter 7, page 64, 65)

Assuming the validity of the Tsvi Misinai research my belief is that the Palestinian people are largely descended from these second century Messianic Jews, who followed Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, [ Isa the Prophet to Muslims, Shalom be upon Him], so a case can be presented that the advice that Rabbi Akiva gave to Simon Bar Kochba came back to haunt the entire Rabbinic Jewish community and their children and grandchildren.


The Messianic Jews did NOT join in the Bar Kochba Revolt and thus... were NOT expelled from the land as the followers of Simon Bar Kochba and Rabbi Akiva were. The children and grandchildren of the second century Messianic Jewish community continued to grow grain and olive oil and pay taxes to Rome. Of course there is more to the story though.... and if this has your attention .... you may find this other discussion informative as well.

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Messianic Jewish author Sid Roth gives the statistic of 400,000 for the number of Messianic Jews, [followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus], living in the Roman Province of Judaea at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt.

If Sid Roth's statistic is correct could the Palestinians of this last century be largely descended from the first century followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus who DID NOT join in the Bar Kochba Revolt and thus were allowed to stay in Roman Judaea and grow olive oil and grain and wine and pay taxes to Rome?





This idea would certainly fit with the scholarship of Mr. Tsvi...

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[DennisPTate]

DennisPTate

Have you read this book?

Introduction | Judaism— Revelation of Moses Or Religion of Men?

Book: Judaism— Revelation of Moses Or Religion of Men?

www.cbcg.org

It gives a pretty detailed exegesis and history of the invention of 'Rabbinical Judaism' by the early 2nd Century. It is generally accurate re the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox cults. Read it and let me know what you think.

Does the book that you refer to have anything in common with this audio book by 2024 near death experiencer Robert Marshall?

I just got this link an hour or so ago and I have already listened to twelve chapters.

I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected body can meet an Atheist like Mellen Thomas Benedict or Howard Storm or Rabbi Alon Anava and take them step by step by step by step up to a high level during the time that they flatline.

Robert Marshall has almost no background in Spirituality or Theology at all....
but what he writes here can be compared with the writings of C. S. Lewis, or for that matter, Pastor Rick Joyner, or other near death experiencers.


I am of the belief that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is holding former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava by the right hand as is mentioned about Cyrus in Isaiah chapter forty five.

The lectures of Rabbi Alon Anava remind me of Matthew chapters five, six and seven but his seven minute NDE reminds me of the temptations that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus faced in Matthew chapter four.

In my opinion Robert Marshall is also being led and guided at an amazing level.

My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

I am curious what my Christadelphian friends will think of what is being shown to near death experiencer Robert Marshall? I believe that there is a desperate need for objective and honest analysis of the astonishing outpouring of knowledge and understanding that all of us in 2026 are being given.

I believe that near death experience accounts and similar spiritual experiences are making it possible for all of us to begin to cooperate and have a more interesting discussion with each other, even across religious boundaries of the past.

Before his brush with death Mellen Benedict identified his branch of spirituality as "Atheism."

[Near death experienceer Mellen Thomas Benedict]

10. What Is the Best Religion?​

I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace.

They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

I went over to the other side during my NDE with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, “we do not need this any more.” Now we are actally in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my NDE loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now “soul size.” Do we have soul size answers, YES!

The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing. Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy.

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[DennisPTate]

Here is a link to one of the best articles on the topic of "The Antichrist" that I have read in my sixty six years.

Over the years I was kind of shaking my head as I would watch some parts of the "Left Behind" series and other attempts by sincere Evangelical Christians to deal with this challenging topic.

Yes, this is an article by the "Christadelphians."

The Coming Antichrist​

Who is he? How will I recognize him?​

Antichrist—a word that may incite a sense of anxiety or dread. Who really is the Antichrist? What does he have to do with possibly the greatest case of mistaken identity in all history?

This article will take you through a fascinating exploration of the antichrist: from a recounting of the modern Christian teaching, to the Bible description of antichrist, to a history of the development of antichrist ideas, all leading to an astonishing, and challenging, conclusion!

“And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” ~ The Apostle John

The Coming Antichrist - The Hope of the Bible

Antichrist—a word that may incite a sense of anxiety or dread. Who really is the Antichrist? What does he have to do with possibly the greatest case of mistaken identity in all history? This article will take you through a fascinating exploration of the antichrist: from a recounting of the...

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In my opinion this article on "The Antichrist" sets up the fifty thousand or so Christadelphians all over the world for a massive outreach to ten million Israelis.

Here is a secondary interesting prediction that I believe will give Christadelphian tourists to Israel a topic to discuss with Orthodox, Chassidic, Reform and Conservative Jewish Rabbi's, [not to mention the elected officials of Israel]?

Jeremiah 16:14¶
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers."

David Herzog on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Glory Zone

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Near death experiencer and former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava warns Jews living in Israel that they will be far, far, far, far, far safer living in Israel, than they are living in the USA. As you can guess, so far Jews living in America tend to be laughing at Rabbi Alon Anava. If you will go to the seventeen minute mark in the Pastor David Herzog interview you will hear about a warning dream about an "Exodus" of USA Jews up to Canada?

 

[Hafar1014]

According to the New Testament, all Christians are called to testify and proselytize, aren't they? It was the pseudo-Jewish Babylonian Jews and their progeny the Pharisees that turned away from Abraham and Moses and the written Torah and turned what is modern 'Judaism' into a racist isolationist cult that worships the Talmud instead of the written Torah, not Christians. Of course there are Christian Jews, Mandeans, Reformed, and other sects that reject the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox nonsense and recognize that monotheism is implicitly universalist, or 'little c' catholic.

Anti Jew crazy sniveling message board rodent alert

 

[DennisPTate]

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But, was I lied to when I read perhaps thirty years ago that by the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt that Rabbi Akiva was so worried about the four hundred thousand or so Messianic Jews, [followers of John the Baptist and his cousin Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus], living in the Holy Land that Rabbi Akiva counselled Simon Bar Kochba that once he had chased the Romans out of The Holy Land, that he would need to get rid of those Messianic Jewish followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus as well?


What I read thirty or so years ago would help to explain a rather interesting and challenging interpretation of history that I feel I was led to notice.

[Sid Roth] :
The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to follow the Messiah, he had to convert to Judaism. Then Peter had a revelation that Gentiles did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved (see Acts 10). The Jerusalem Council meeting determined that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised. There were only four easily followed requirements. They were to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). After all, James said, they could learn more about God by hear- ing the words of Moses every Saturday in the syna- gogue (see Acts 15:21). This opened the door to widespread church growth among the Gentiles. So many Gentiles were saved that the Jewish believers became a minority.

The first Jewish followers of Jesus were called Nazarenes (part of the Essenes sect of Judaism dis- cussed in Chapter 3). They practiced traditional Judaism and were widely accepted by unbelieving Jews. Early in the second century their numbers reached 400,000.1 In the Book of Acts, the early church fathers said to Paul: You see, brother, how many myriads [tens of thousands] of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (Acts 21:20).

The Nazarenes acceptance by traditional Jews came to a halt in A.D. 135 when Rabbi Akiba declared that Bar Kochba was the Jewish Messiah. His followers hoped he would lead them to victory over the Romans. The Nazarenes refused to fight because they believed Jesus was the true Messiah rather than Bar Kochba. They were branded traitors, not because they believed in Jesus, but because they would not join Bar Kochbas armed struggle. Bar Kochba and his followers were quickly slaughtered by the Romans. Afterward, Jews were banned from Jerusalem.

History shows that as the center of the Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Rome, it became increasingly Hellenized, adopting pagan customs and philosophies rather than the God-ordained practices and beliefs of the Bible. At the same time, Christianity became increasingly anti-Jewish."

[Sid Roth from his book The Incomplete Church, Chapter 7, page 64, 65]

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If Sid Roth's statistic is correct could the Palestinians of this last century be largely descended from the first century followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus who DID NOT join in the Bar Kochba Revolt and thus were allowed to stay in Roman Judaea and grow olive oil and grain and wine and pay taxes to Rome?

The vast majority were merely migrant farm workers who drifted in when the British investors funded the citrus fruit industry and other projects around the turn of the 20th Century. There were two or three Aliyahs of Russian Jews before that, invited in by the Ottomans to...

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Here is some interesting data from another angle that I feel must somehow fit with all of this?

[Tsvi Misinai] :
"Tsvi Misinai claims that the majority of the Palestinian peopleincluding those with Israeli citizenship or residency, known variously as Arab citizens of Israel, Arab Israelis, Israeli Arabs, including the Bedouin Arabs of Israelare descendants of the ancient Hebrews, as most of the world's Jewish ethnic divisions are.[6] Furthermore, he claims that at least half of them are quietly aware of this fact.[7]

According to Misinai, unlike the ancestors of the modern day Jews who were city dwellers to a large extent, the Hebrew ancestors of the Palestinians were rural dwellers, and were allowed to remain in the land of Israel to work the land and supply Rome with grain and olive oil."

Misinai states the topic of Hebrew origin was spoken of openly by Palestinians until relatively recent history, much as the Egyptians or Lebanese are aware of their origin in the ancient Egyptians and Phoenicians respectively, even if the topic arouses the passions of those wishing to stress or de-emphasise it."

Tsvi Misinai - Wikipedia

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My point is this, although essentially all Christian churches were to some degree "anti-Semitic" and yes the big Christian churches could well decide to pay serious "Reparations Payments to all ten million or so Israelis," if honest and objective Jewish scholars and historians will research the full context of the situation, the events of the first century were somewhat like what the Book of Acts records about what Saul - Paul did before his conversion?

Hafar1014, do you believe that Rav Saul - Paul was able to get Messianic Jews of the first century to "blaspheme" by tickling their toes with feathers or raising his voice to them?

“Indeed, I myself thought I must do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10This I also did in Jerusalem, and many of the saints I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I cast my vote against them. 11And I punished them often in every synagogue and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly enraged against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.

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