The same people who were shouting "Lock her up!" now feel hiding classified documents is okay

[JimH52]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

If there had been consequences for Hillary, maybe there is a similar argument, even though the circumstances are FAR different and Hillary did in fact, jeopardize U.S national security.

Trump didn't actively circumvent U.S security that has been confirmed to have been hacked, thus, risking lives (anyone know if people did die due to her decision?). Also, she was secretary of state, not president.

All good men have to put their bias aside and demand fair and equal treatment. Even Dem voters are suggesting this online. Trump might not be the right GOP candidate for 2024 but it's far tougher to view him as NOT going forward now and without question if he doesn't run he will be kingmaker.

The Jan 6th Hearing jump started Trumps revival (coincidentally and ironically it will probably be the end of the present day Neo-Con custodian Cheneys political career). It kept Trump in the limelight and reminded half of the country, "this is what they will do to those who disagree with them". The raid just added a big exclamation mark.

 

[Oldestyle]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

You're really not that bright, Jim! Let me break it down for you...

Donald Trump was President. He's the ultimate authority on what is classified. If he wants to take papers with him then he has that authority. If he's the one taking them then he CAN'T be accused of "taking" classified documents!

Hillary Clinton on the other hand WAS NOT PRESIDENT! The Secretary of State isn't the person who decides what is and isn't classified. When Hillary put those two secret servers in her home and ran the State Department through them to evade Congressional oversight she was breaking the law. When she lied to Congressional investigators telling them that she'd turned over everything related to Beh Ghazi, she was breaking the law. When she destroyed evidence that she knew those investigators were looking for, she was breaking the law.

 

[Sunni Man]

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House.

...............

 

[Auld Phart]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

I hope Trump receives the same punishment HIllary did.

 

[JimH52]

If there had been consequences for Hillary, maybe there is a similar argument, even though the circumstances are FAR different and Hillary did in fact, jeopardize U.S national security.

Trump didn't actively circumvent U.S security that has been confirmed to have been hacked, thus, risking lives (anyone know if people did die due to her decision?). Also, she was secretary of state, not president.

All good men have to put their bias aside and demand fair and equal treatment. Even Dem voters are suggesting this online. Trump might not be the right GOP candidate for 2024 but it's far tougher to view him as NOT going forward now and without question if he doesn't run he will be kingmaker.

The Jan 6th Hearing jump started Trumps revival (coincidentally and ironically it will probably be the end of the present day Neo-Con custodian Cheneys political career). It kept Trump in the limelight and reminded half of the country, "this is what they will do to those who disagree with them". The raid just added a big exclamation mark.

No one except his cult want the incompetent child named trump back in the White House. He is a danger to our country.

 

[Auld Phart]

No one except his cult want the incompetent child named trump back in the White House. He is a danger to our country.

So are Hillary and Biden.

If Joe doesn't run in 2024, will you vote for Hillary?

 

[Oldestyle]

No one except his cult want the incompetent child named trump back in the White House. He is a danger to our country.

Incompetent? Please! Trump gave us some of the best economic numbers we've seen in decades! His foreign policies were bringing peace to the Middle East...his energy policies was keeping the price of oil down so Putin couldn't build up his military. His sanctions were keeping China in a defensive posture.

Contrast that with Joe Biden! Our economy is staggering towards Stagflation. Gas prices are double what they were when he took office. Supply chain issues continue. Inflation is rampant. Our withdrawal from Afghanistan was a debacle. Biden's energy policies put billions into Russia's coffers to finance their incursion into Ukraine. Violent crime is out of control on the streets of our biggest cities. Our border is wide open with tens of thousands of illegals flooding the country.

"Incompetent"? You've got to be kidding! We need to get the incompetent guy OUT of office and put the guy who had things running like clockwork BACK!

 

[two_iron]

You're really not that bright, Jim! Let me break it down for you...

Donald Trump was President. He's the ultimate authority on what is classified. If he wants to take papers with him then he has that authority. If he's the one taking them then he CAN'T be accused of "taking" classified documents!

Hillary Clinton on the other hand WAS NOT PRESIDENT! The Secretary of State isn't the person who decides what is and isn't classified. When Hillary put those two secret servers in her home and ran the State Department through them to evade Congressional oversight she was breaking the law. When she lied to Congressional investigators telling them that she'd turned over everything related to Beh Ghazi, she was breaking the law. When she destroyed evidence that she knew those investigators were looking for, she was breaking the law.

You're schooling someone who dutifully eats the corn out of Xiden's shit and literally has no idea what a "dockumint" is....

 

[Care4all]

You're really not that bright, Jim! Let me break it down for you...

Donald Trump was President. He's the ultimate authority on what is classified. If he wants to take papers with him then he has that authority. If he's the one taking them then he CAN'T be accused of "taking" classified documents!

Hillary Clinton on the other hand WAS NOT PRESIDENT! The Secretary of State isn't the person who decides what is and isn't classified. When Hillary put those two secret servers in her home and ran the State Department through them to evade Congressional oversight she was breaking the law. When she lied to Congressional investigators telling them that she'd turned over everything related to Beh Ghazi, she was breaking the law. When she destroyed evidence that she knew those investigators were looking for, she was breaking the law.

Trump lost his security clearance, when he left office.

The documents were NOT his documents to take with him as the former president, nor were they his documents to take, if he were president. They are the people's documents, government property, which he intentionally stole. He knew better, his staff knew better...they were all briefed on how to handle presidential documents and how to retain them and preserve them.

Tell us, why would trump take all of the presidential records with him? And why would he need the top secret and TS SCIF documents with him at Mara Lago. What did he need this top secret information for, as an ex/former president, who left office as a disgrace, no less?

Why didn't he return all of it, when first asked well over a year ago? Why has he lied and stalled and delayed returning them? Seriously?

P.S. I've gotta go, will be back later!

 

[Harry Dresden]

So are Hillary and Biden.

If Joe doesn't run in 2024, will you vote for Hillary?

jim will vote for who he is told to vote for....and he wont question that....

 

[foggedinn]

Law enforcement types have a curious love affair with throwing peoples own words back in their face. I thought that shouting "lock her up" was stupid at the time. It is still stupid.

 

[beagle9]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

Nah it's still the same leftist making false claims... Some things just never change.

 

[beagle9]

Law enforcement types have a curious love affair with throwing peoples own words back in their face. I thought that shouting "lock her up" was stupid at the time. It is still stupid.

Oh so knowing someone broke the law is according to you "stupid" when people say lock her up, but assuming someone broke the law without you having the proof presented you isn't stupid in accordance to you ?? Got it... Steve Harvey would have that blank stare in confusion if you were a contestant on "family feud" right about now.... LOL.

 

[MarathonMike]

Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

Oh yeah, you Dems take the "high road" all the way.

 

[Rigby5]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

Wrong.
Mara Lago is likely vastly more secure than the White House, since it has fewer people traveling through.
But Hillary was broadcasting her classified documents all over the internet.

 

[Rigby5]

Trump lost his security clearance, when he left office.

The documents were NOT his documents to take with him as the former president, nor were they his documents to take, if he were president. They are the people's documents, government property, which he intentionally stole. He knew better, his staff knew better...they were all briefed on how to handle presidential documents and how to retain them and preserve them.

Tell us, why would trump take all of the presidential records with him? And why would he need the top secret and TS SCIF documents with him at Mara Lago. What did he need this top secret information for, as an ex/former president, who left office as a disgrace, no less?

Why didn't he return all of it, when first asked well over a year ago? Why has he lied and stalled and delayed returning them? Seriously?

P.S. I've gotta go, will be back later!

Wrong.
This was only 15 boxes out of about 500 boxes.
Trump could easily have taken a lot more.
Personally I think he only took things like napkins and things he could sell.
Nothing like good old blackmail.

 

[Care4all]

Wrong.
This was only 15 boxes out of about 500 boxes.
Trump could easily have taken a lot more.
Personally I think he only took things like napkins and things he could sell.
Nothing like good old blackmail.

27 additional cases on Monday, added to the 15, and also whatever they took with them from the grand jury subpoena that was served on him, in early June.

Oh, he took much more than napkins! Garland is as cautious as cautious could be on this, it was not taken lightly, it was deemed necessary to retrieve what ever it was that was a national security risk, that they went in for.... He would NOT ever in a gazillion years, approve this search warrant without cause, nor without crossing all Ts or dotting all eyes.

None of us would have even known this happened, if it were not for Trump creating the circus.

Mara Lago hotel was closed for the summer, FBI did not wear their typical FBI stamped wind breakers, they were in plain clothes, they gave Secret Service a 45 minute heads up, Trump was in New York, or his New Jersey resort so any paparazzi following him were not at Mara Lago chasing him.....Garland was very careful and handled this necessity, with kid gloves! No one being served a search warrant has ever been given this kind of respect, that I can think of.....???


Edit:
Also, people's property being under a legal search and seizure granted by a court judge, is not an automatic criminal charge to come, as both sides are claiming or worried about....

The evidence gathered is important, but prosecutors need more than that, they need to prove mal intent for certain crimes, or knowledge it was a crime on other crime statutes....it isn't as easy as one would think, for some of these white collar crimes..... and National security crimes could be easier to press charges???

To me, not knowing all the facts....especially the compartmentalize Top Secret documents he had, or any of the evidence justice may have, but just from what has been reported that seems factual,

I think the DOJ and our intelligence agencies that could have been affected, are just happy to retrieve these documents, and having them back, in their proper, secure, place....and he won't be charged.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

Seems to sum up the whole of US politics. One thing's okay because the party you like did it, but the very same thing is treason because the other party did it.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Opinion | The 'lock her up' crowd claims the DOJ is too political

Trump suggested his Department of Justice investigate more than two dozen people he considered opponents.

www.msnbc.com

It seems that those same people who wanted Hillary arrested, now don't see a problem in removing classified TOP SECRET files from the White House. Dems will not stoop to the third world mantra, LOCK HIM UP!

That will be the choice of the Department of Justice.

Nope. Illegal server housing Top Secret documents in your own home is treason. Taking documents at the end of a presidency is routine. Are you stupid or something Forrest?