The spouse should receive the deceased social security. They both paid i n while ensuring the sickening rat race day in and day out.
Ehrmagerd, the whining about the "victimhood" of living a normal, responsible, productive life. THE HORROR!!!
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The spouse should receive the deceased social security. They both paid i n while ensuring the sickening rat race day in and day out.
Well the regressives here on USMB have been begging for a balanced budget. I say we oblige them and cut all the entitlement programs for a few years.
Will they praise Republicans and President Trump if this happens?
Regressives? You're quite the dumb ass. How would you like paying into a 401K for 50 years and then someone telling you your 401k is not going to pay you because it's an entitlement? You pay into something it's certainly not an entitlement. I will not live long enough to collect everything I have paid in. Now taking this away is regressive. So stuff it punk.
The middle class tax cut should have been triple the wealthy one.
So they shouldn't get an ounce of the money their spouse paid in? Okay then.
Democrats are pushing for a losing proposition of increasing taxes. It’s why people think they’re idiots.
in the short run; in the long run, higher paid labor pays more in taxes and creates more in demand. we already have unemployment compensation infrastructure.let's raise the minimum wage to raise more tax revenue.
With fewer jobs, so no net revenue gain.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Both sides know their power ends when they cut social security.....thankfully.
You're really fixated on Social Security. Sounds to me like you're terrified that you might have to actually do something for your mom yourself, instead of foisting it off onto other people.
Actually (if I remember correctly) Initforme is a guy in his mid 80's.
Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare?150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
I was originally telling him about a 150K income family, and he replied that 75K each was barely enough to live on. I don't know where that's barely enough to live on because I realize our cost of living is much lower than the northeast states and Cali. But I would hardly consider 150K a year family income barely enough to get by on. Hell, if I made 150K a year since I started working, I would have retired at 50 years old comfortably.
1. Raise everyone's taxes by an equal 10%, then no whining, except the wealthy always squeal. This raises $500b
So what you're saying is raise taxes on the people that already support the rest of us. The problem in this country is everybody wants their government goodies. It's easy to demand those goodies if somebody else is paying for them. Perhaps it's time everybody paid, and don't tell me you can't get blood from a rock. Because maybe if everybody had a dog in this race, people would be asking less of government.
In the county I live in (Cuyahoga) we have an 8 cent per dollar tax on everything you buy. That tax is for the rich, the poor, the middle-class, everybody. Maybe that's something we should start doing nationwide to solve our debt, deficit and spending problems.
Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax
There is another thread that shows that if everyone's taxes are raised about 7% and then defense gets cut $100b and then cut welfare and medicaid $400b the Budget is balanced. Subject to tweaks from other savings, like SS & Medicare, if possible.
The key thing is that 50% come from taxes and 50% from cuts.
But only 50% of the people pay income taxes. So you're suggesting we still shoulder the burden on those who are already paying all the taxes while not touching the other 49% who pay nothing in income tax. How can you raise taxes on people who aren't paying them in the first place?
If "everyone" pays 7% more than the 2016 rates it raises $500b a year. The top rate would be 46.9% up from 39.9%. That would balance the Budget. If they could realize more savings over time that rate could go down, but not probable since the interest on the Debt would increase as the Fed raises rates. But it gets the US back into reality.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
I was originally telling him about a 150K income family, and he replied that 75K each was barely enough to live on. I don't know where that's barely enough to live on because I realize our cost of living is much lower than the northeast states and Cali. But I would hardly consider 150K a year family income barely enough to get by on. Hell, if I made 150K a year since I started working, I would have retired at 50 years old comfortably.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
I was originally telling him about a 150K income family, and he replied that 75K each was barely enough to live on. I don't know where that's barely enough to live on because I realize our cost of living is much lower than the northeast states and Cali. But I would hardly consider 150K a year family income barely enough to get by on. Hell, if I made 150K a year since I started working, I would have retired at 50 years old comfortably.
I lived in NY, most people have no idea the extent NY hits you with taxes and fees and tolls there is virtually nothing they don't tax. Property taxes on a $200k house over $13,000. Hell NY taxes your home mortgage loan and if you dare re-fi they tax you again full boat.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
I was originally telling him about a 150K income family, and he replied that 75K each was barely enough to live on. I don't know where that's barely enough to live on because I realize our cost of living is much lower than the northeast states and Cali. But I would hardly consider 150K a year family income barely enough to get by on. Hell, if I made 150K a year since I started working, I would have retired at 50 years old comfortably.
I lived in NY, most people have no idea the extent NY hits you with taxes and fees and tolls there is virtually nothing they don't tax. Property taxes on a $200k house over $13,000. Hell NY taxes your home mortgage loan and if you dare re-fi they tax you again full boat.
Which is a pretty good reason why so many of us wouldn't live there if God Almighty Himself told us to.
Good!Which is a pretty good reason why so many of us wouldn't live there if God Almighty Himself told us to.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
I was originally telling him about a 150K income family, and he replied that 75K each was barely enough to live on. I don't know where that's barely enough to live on because I realize our cost of living is much lower than the northeast states and Cali. But I would hardly consider 150K a year family income barely enough to get by on. Hell, if I made 150K a year since I started working, I would have retired at 50 years old comfortably.
I lived in NY, most people have no idea the extent NY hits you with taxes and fees and tolls there is virtually nothing they don't tax. Property taxes on a $200k house over $13,000. Hell NY taxes your home mortgage loan and if you dare re-fi they tax you again full boat.
Which is a pretty good reason why so many of us wouldn't live there if God Almighty Himself told us to.
Its too bad because its a beautiful state, as typical the left wrecked it.
Good!Which is a pretty good reason why so many of us wouldn't live there if God Almighty Himself told us to.
Last thing we need is your kind living among us.
150 k is nothing today. Functional at best.
I guess that might depend on where you live. I make much less than 75K, and I have a healthy IRA, real estate investments and easily able to pay my bills.
Let's face it, most Americans have an inflated notion of how much they actually need. If someone has a 4 br, 2000+ sq ft house for just him/herself and a spouse and buys a new car every few years, I don't want to hear how their income isn't enough to allow them to take care of their own healthcare and put money away in savings or investments.
I'm not begrudging anyone having whatever they want, if they can pay for it. But I very much begrudge them the whining afterwards about how they don't make enough to live on.
I was originally telling him about a 150K income family, and he replied that 75K each was barely enough to live on. I don't know where that's barely enough to live on because I realize our cost of living is much lower than the northeast states and Cali. But I would hardly consider 150K a year family income barely enough to get by on. Hell, if I made 150K a year since I started working, I would have retired at 50 years old comfortably.
I lived in NY, most people have no idea the extent NY hits you with taxes and fees and tolls there is virtually nothing they don't tax. Property taxes on a $200k house over $13,000. Hell NY taxes your home mortgage loan and if you dare re-fi they tax you again full boat.