The Killing Of The United States of America

It doesn't need to.

If new rule is made, that targets the voting habits of a particular group which doesn't tend to vote for the party of the rule makers, in such a way that it inhibits their ability to vote then yes, it has the potential to disenfranchise them. You are aiming to make it more difficult for a particular group. With Sunday voting, for example - there is absolutely no fraud-related explanation to it. It is one of many small changes that cumulatively impact specific voting groups and have no relationship to fraud.

Spin it any way your masters tell you to, but it ain't going to change what it is.

It's not targeting any group of voters. But our election system should not be catering to those people either. Hey, I would like it if they held elections at bars, and so would a lot of people including the bar owners, but that doesn't mean we need to cater to the drunks, does it?

Ok..so, you are advocating that only a select elite group of people should be able to vote - one, presumably that meets your standard of political groupthink? The Republicans are well on their way to attempt to make this a one-party system by putting up barriers to voting. It's the only way they can win.

I never said that. What I did say is that we need to keep the election system the way it is, or better yet, the way it was years ago. One day voting, everybody shows up that day. Everybody who is very interested in elections gets to vote no matter which party they support, and we would end up with a much better mix of representatives instead of electing a show clown with dementia. The people who don't understand what they are even voting on will not take the effort or time to vote which would be fantastic. If those people are Democrats, fine. If they are Republicans, that's fine too. But how can you tell me that it's better to have a lower form of electorate than a higher knowledgeable electorate? Please explain that one.

Now if you are at least partly honest, you'd admit that this is the reason Democrats want to make it so easy to vote; to get a lower quality electorate voting so they vote for them.

You've only confirmed that the goal is to make it harder for people who tend to vote Democrat, to vote. You call them idiots.

Are they any more idiotic then the "white trash, bible thumping, rednecks" (to use the common slurs directed at them) who voted for Trump? Should their vote be limited because they are idiots? Or is the vote only for those idiots willing to run an electoral obstacle course in order to vote? (not always easy for people who have multiple jobs and a family to care for).

How would it be an obstacle course to vote? We've been doing it that way since the founding of our country. Never a problem until Democrats realized who the stupid and uninformed mostly vote for. If those bible thumping rednecks don't know or care much about politics, they won't show up either, now will they?

It's like if somebody stopped over my house and had a DVD movie with them. I don't care much for movies, but as long as it's there, I'll watch it. Now if somebody asked me if I want to get dressed up, get my coat on, and freeze halfway to the theater, forget about it. I don't care all that much for movies or plays so it's simply not worth the time or effort on my part. I'd sooner stay home.
 
Black people can't currently vote? Could've fooled me.
They voted in Georgia and the Dems won the Senate.

Look at what happens when Republican voter suppression fails, progress is made!
"Progress" isn't something you'll ever get from government.
Sure it is.
look what happened we we got rid of SOME Republicans.
Imagine how wonderfully we'll do when we get rid of more.
I haven't noticed an progress., NAZI. Progress happens when government goes away.
 
But why are the commies pushing for it to be a regular thing after Covid is long gone? We both know why, but you're not honest enough to admit why.
To make it easier to vote so more people do. Why do you persist with these lies about virtually non-existent voter fraud? This is why Repubs are trying to make voting harder.

We don't want illegal aliens, cartoon characters and dead people voting.
 
Sure it is.
look what happened we we got rid of SOME Republicans.

Yeah, look what we got: A huge border problem that a Republican had under control. I just passed my gas station today, 70 cents a gallon higher than when Biden took office, and this is only the beginning. Do you have an athletic daughter in school? Forget about them joining a female basketball or wrestling team. Creepy Joe mandated that weirdos in dresses must be allowed to compete against them. So much for your daughters potential college scholarship program, huh? Thousands of workers laid off in the middle of a pandemic with the potential of creating tens of thousands more jobs. Today, the Senate put us one step closer to 2 trillion more in debt, bringing our debt to 30 million, mostly spending it on Democrat pork.

Yeah, get rid of more Republicans. We will be Venezuela in no time.
According to Trump he NEVER had the border under control. Every other week was another mass of caravans crushing through the border...or did you forget...
All those decisions about trans athletes came under Trump...Or did you forget
Unemployment when Obama left office was close to 4%. When Trump left it was close to 7%...or did you forget
Trump. in 4 years, ran up $7T in debt with most of that money going to his wealthy buddies...or did you forget

Seems you have a memory problem along with your myriad other shortcomings.
And you seem to have forgotten about the Kung Flu Virus
You mean the Covid virus that Trump's incompetence allowed to kill over half a million Americans all because he was absolutely sure you wanted to die for his reelection?
You mean the covid virus whose butt Biden and Fauci are kicking every day?
Is that the virus your and your fellow mental midgets are NOW worried about?
Take your racist lying hypocrisy elsewhere.
 
Sure it is.
look what happened we we got rid of SOME Republicans.

Yeah, look what we got: A huge border problem that a Republican had under control. I just passed my gas station today, 70 cents a gallon higher than when Biden took office, and this is only the beginning. Do you have an athletic daughter in school? Forget about them joining a female basketball or wrestling team. Creepy Joe mandated that weirdos in dresses must be allowed to compete against them. So much for your daughters potential college scholarship program, huh? Thousands of workers laid off in the middle of a pandemic with the potential of creating tens of thousands more jobs. Today, the Senate put us one step closer to 2 trillion more in debt, bringing our debt to 30 million, mostly spending it on Democrat pork.

Yeah, get rid of more Republicans. We will be Venezuela in no time.
According to Trump he NEVER had the border under control. Every other week was another mass of caravans crushing through the border...or did you forget...
All those decisions about trans athletes came under Trump...Or did you forget
Unemployment when Obama left office was close to 4%. When Trump left it was close to 7%...or did you forget
Trump. in 4 years, ran up $7T in debt with most of that money going to his wealthy buddies...or did you forget

Seems you have a memory problem along with your myriad other shortcomings.
And you seem to have forgotten about the Kung Flu Virus
You mean the Covid virus that Trump's incompetence allowed to kill over half a million Americans all because he was absolutely sure you wanted to die for his reelection?
You mean the covid virus whose butt Biden and Fauci are kicking every day?
Is that the virus your and your fellow mental midgets are NOW worried about?
Take your racist lying hypocrisy elsewhere.
Just anothee debunked Democrate Reich talking point
 
There was a record turnout because voters opposed Trump. Many stayed home in 2016 and as a result Trump won. Voters were determined to not make the same mistake in 2020. Trump has sold you fools tghe equivalent of a bridge. He is laughing at you suckers all the way to the bank.

There is no reason why people should wait for hours to vote when it is not necessary. That does not prove anything. it shou;ld be a regular thingb as there is no reason why it should not be. The fact is that you are not honest. The fact is that as the baby boomers die, there will be fewer people to man polling places so mail in balloting could be a necessity.

Then what you are saying is that most of our country are stupid people. You'd have to be stupid to put somebody in office that spent 47 years in federal government, with dementia, with a dope head son under FBI investigation, that's been involved in shady deals and corruption as President.

There is only two possible reasons Biden could have won: mail-in voting to attract the lazy and politically stupid, or they did indeed rig the election.
 
If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.


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No, there will be no Revolution.

Americans, like people in other countries, will grumble but will meekly submit.

The COVID-19 tragedy has shown that Americans will do what the government tells them.

Democracy in the world is receding.

We are not exceptional.

exactly,could not have said it better myself.
 
In the Texas primaries, blacks had to wait for hours to vote because Texas has closed polling places in minority communitieas. Whites did not face that.

It's the local board of elections that make the decisions on voting, procedures, amount of machines and poll workers--not the state. If blacks were standing in line, it's likely their local government are Democrat led.
 
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I mean, if you prefer one party rule, sure. Granted, we already have one party rule. The same elites run each party. Getting rid of the Republicans would at least make it harder for people to not notice this I guess.
If you think Democrats are "one party" you're just not paying attention.
The only people with real power in either party serve the same combination of interests.

There are multiple wings in each party, but the Squad, for example, doesn't have much actual power. Conservatives often mock AOC and make a big deal out of her, but she clearly still has to bow to Pelosi and other establishment figures. Pelosi represents the real power in the party.
Democrats have many interests.
Republicans have CANCELED any opinions not from the conspiracy wing of the party.
And if that squad has no power, why are you so afraid of them?
Maybe their power doesn't frighten you but their ideas scare the hell out of Republicans
Because Republicans have no ideas anymore
 
No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.

I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.
Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.


No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

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Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.



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Right. Fewer than 1/100th of a percent of voter fraud cases out of all votes cast for the past 30 years....

Heritage foundation just proves what we've been saying all along.... Its minimal.


But enough to swing some elections. Otherwise it wouldn't take months and court battles to settle specific races, would it?

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NO. Only in the minds of the conspiracy theorists. In reality, no. As clearly demonstrated by Trump's OWN DHS!
 
No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.

I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.
Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.


No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

.
Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.



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REALLY...OH REALLY...OH THANK YOU SO MUCH...

Uhm....

Your source goes back to 1982 and lists some 1,600 instances of "fraud" spread across 40 years.
For reference we've had 11 presidential elections counting some 800 MILLION votes and an additional 11 federal elections plus special elections generating some 600,000 votes plus primaries and local elections. Conservatively, so to speak, 1600 cases out of 1.5 BILLION votes.

For the math disabled that percentage is .0000107 percent.

Thank you for proving very clearly that all the screaming about fraud is just that. FRAUD!


And? I just posted it to prove they aren't outright lies, and I bet the 1,600 legitimate voters that had their votes cancelled would take it so lightly.

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You posted it to prove that fraud is such a small concern as to be legally and statistically insignificant?

Well, you proved your point.


All it take is enough to tip one race to alter the balance of power, doesn't it?

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Again, NO. As clearly demonstrated by Trump's own DHS.
 

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facts are facts....

lazy is lazy

all the fact checks have lots of different sources to discern the facts from, just click on their source links, and inform yourself.... its not hard, it just takes interest, and a little time.
you would know hypocrite,everytime you are given links and videos to watch of whistleblowers who witnessed vote fraud in the election or links and videos of the best doctors in the world exposing that the virus is a hoax.like clockwork,this is what we all know you do everytime when challenged to look at the evidence in the links.:scared1::scared1::scared1::scared1::scared1::scared1: :scared1: :scared1:
 
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The elites are laughing at us all for what they have done. All of us gave our issues. The ones that let them get out of control or at the edge are in power now. Many are freaks. And they have used social justice against the Constitution and the Bible against their own citizens. And what is crazy is that it is picking up steam. The serious thing is that most of the Progs are not that good. And in fact they are incompetent during a bad time. Cuomo may be getting jettisoned to save the other morons like Newsome, Wolf, Murphy and Whitmer and more. These people are the pre Castro, pre Che, pre Stalin and pre Hitler types. And they have convinced voters that Repubs are. The globalist believing sect of the Repubs have the capability. And W. Bush/Dick Cheyney with the Homeland Security, Patriot Act and TSA did their damage.
:yes_text12: best damn post on this thread,proof in the pudding you are correct that one of Langleys shills hated the post.lol
 
You really are a gullible rube.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article249714803.html
Rule of thumb. If you hear something from a right wing source don't believe until you can verify it.

Oh please with your commie sites that only tell you half of the story. Why do you think OPEC cut production? That's right, because they have an anti-energy clown leading the US that stopped the Keystone and new leases and drilling rights on public land. They would have never pulled such a stunt if Trump was in office, because Trump would have retaliated by increasing US production keeping the price down.
 
OK. I'll help.

No more vote by mail for anyone
ID required
Redraw and consolidate all precincts so that the poorest most racially segregated parts of any community is in each precinct
Eliminate all but 1 voting machine in each precinct
Move the polling location to the poorest neighborhoods
Have the polls and lines guarded by BLM activists

There ya go Klanboy. Experience some "suppression free" voting just like the people you hate.

I have a better idea: leave our election system alone. You want to vote, fine, go vote, but do it in person like we've done since the founding of our country.

Mail in voting has been in place for humdreds of years as well.
No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.

I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.
Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.


No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

.
Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.



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Right. Fewer than 1/100th of a percent of voter fraud cases out of all votes cast for the past 30 years....

Heritage foundation just proves what we've been saying all along.... Its minimal.


But enough to swing some elections. Otherwise it wouldn't take months and court battles to settle specific races, would it?

.

Doesn't that show the system works? It is minimal. Most elections don't end in court battles. But the fact is - recounts are available, poll observers, recourse through the courts. There is transparency built in, and a system for handling conflict. And none of it involves increasing the difficulty of voting.

If you're going to create rules to make voting more difficult for certain populations, it should be based on evidence not conjecture. And there is no evidence of wide spread voter fraud, or of a large increase in voter fraud.

Seems the system is working.


And what good are recounts if the same illegal votes are counted over and over? And why do you want people who are just doing what they are told determining the future of this country? What does it tell you when a politician publicly brags that they have 600,000 votes in their pocket?

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There you are making false claims that have been proven lies again and again.

If you are going to claim votes are illegal it is up to you to PROVE SO BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

So quit the lies and deal with the facts.
 
No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.

I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.
Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.


No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

.
Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.



.
REALLY...OH REALLY...OH THANK YOU SO MUCH...

Uhm....

Your source goes back to 1982 and lists some 1,600 instances of "fraud" spread across 40 years.
For reference we've had 11 presidential elections counting some 800 MILLION votes and an additional 11 federal elections plus special elections generating some 600,000 votes plus primaries and local elections. Conservatively, so to speak, 1600 cases out of 1.5 BILLION votes.

For the math disabled that percentage is .0000107 percent.

Thank you for proving very clearly that all the screaming about fraud is just that. FRAUD!


And? I just posted it to prove they aren't outright lies, and I bet the 1,600 legitimate voters that had their votes cancelled would take it so lightly.

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You posted it to prove that fraud is such a small concern as to be legally and statistically insignificant?

Well, you proved your point.


All it take is enough to tip one race to alter the balance of power, doesn't it?

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Can't the same be said of voter suppression?


You commies keep talking about voter suppression, yet in every State you cite, voter participation has increased over the years. That proves your claims are nothing but a myth and propaganda.

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SO?
Those increases are DESPITE the obvious and illegal suppression of the Republican party.

When in 2020 that suppression became impossible because you can't tell the race of an envelope you lost the presidency and the Senate.

Your response?

Take away those hindrances to your racism so you can suppress again.
 
You really are a gullible rube.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article249714803.html
Rule of thumb. If you hear something from a right wing source don't believe until you can verify it.

Oh please with your commie sites that only tell you half of the story. Why do you think OPEC cut production? That's right, because they have an anti-energy clown leading the US that stopped the Keystone and new leases and drilling rights on public land. They would have never pulled such a stunt if Trump was in office, because Trump would have retaliated by increasing US production keeping the price down.
GEEZ...

Every year, dumbasses, in the winter, dumbasses, gasoline prices go up, dumbasses, because the gas companies reformulate for winter, dumbasses. I'm absolutely certain. dumbasses, that you dumbasses, dumbasses, will be heaping praise on Biden when gas prices fall in April, dumbasses..

Or, more likely, dumbasses, you'll blame Biden, dumbasses, because gas companies revenues are down, dumbasses.

God what a bunch of dumbasses.
 
Black people can't currently vote? Could've fooled me.
They voted in Georgia and the Dems won the Senate.

Look at what happens when Republican voter suppression fails, progress is made!
"Progress" isn't something you'll ever get from government.
Sure it is.
look what happened we we got rid of SOME Republicans.
Imagine how wonderfully we'll do when we get rid of more.
I haven't noticed an progress., NAZI. Progress happens when government goes away.
Tell that to the people who died in Texas last week. Racist.
 
According to Trump he NEVER had the border under control. Every other week was another mass of caravans crushing through the border...or did you forget...
All those decisions about trans athletes came under Trump...Or did you forget
Unemployment when Obama left office was close to 4%. When Trump left it was close to 7%...or did you forget
Trump. in 4 years, ran up $7T in debt with most of that money going to his wealthy buddies...or did you forget

Seems you have a memory problem along with your myriad other shortcomings.

You better look at yourself when it comes to memory:

Trump has been bragging about his border accomplishments for the last couple of years in office. Trump stopped those caravans, not brought them here. You are getting Trump mixed up with Dementia.




DumBama ordered schools to let weirdos compete in women's sports. When Trump got in, he rescinded that policy, and Dementia brought it back within his first week of office.

Trump left office amid a pandemic, something he was not responsible for. Yet the US had the least GDP damage of all G7 countries outside of China, and that's if you trust commie reporting. If not for creepy Joe's buddies in China, our economy would have kept on roaring along until he was reelected.

Trump didn't send any money to his wealthy buddies. Letting people keep more of WHAT THEY EARNED is not giving anybody anything. Trump rebuilt the military DumBama allowed to be depleted. BTW, Trump spent half of his term with a Democrat Congress. You know......those people with the US checkbook where all spending bills originate?
 

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