Zone1 The JEW From JUDEA ISRAEL [Jesus]

Nazareth [Judaea] or Bethlehem [Judaea]?

  • Nazareth

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • Bethlehem

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Total voters
    7
The Arab propagandist Sherlock_Holmes knows that the previous Arabic names are nostly translated from earlier Hebrew.
Even "al quds" is.
he is a comedian---he is referring SPECIFICALLY to the
WAR of 1947
 
do you have any idea as to what was going on in
1948?
 
never -

liars, the crucifiers have no limits to their corruption.

jesus answered heavenly - go and give happiness to all who you will please ...
huh? are you saying jesus said "screw the rest of the neighbors"?
Even I (the jew-nut) would not make that claim. According to the
jelly bean set----women just accused of "indiscretion" back in the
day in old Israel----were hauled out and stoned to death----wrong!!
 
huh? are you saying jesus said "screw the rest of the neighbors"?
Even I (the jew-nut) would not make that claim. According to the
jelly bean set----women just accused of "indiscretion" back in the
day in old Israel----were hauled out and stoned to death----wrong!!

if that were her inclination that is what jesus gave to her in response ... bring happiness for all that you do - the repudiation of judaism.

- oh sorry, its a jew, jelly bean nazi / moses sympathizer, enabler of their phony commandments to persecute and victimize the innocent being the joy for themselves and their own particular apartheid, heredity idolatry what is important and the paramour consideration.
 
if that were her inclination that is what jesus gave to her in response ... bring happiness for all that you do - the repudiation of judaism.

- oh sorry, its a jew, jelly bean nazi / moses sympathizer, enabler of their phony commandments to persecute and victimize the innocent being the joy for themselves and their own particular apartheid, heredity idolatry what is important and the paramour consideration.
oh gee----you might be right----Freud (also a jew) would agree
 
... bring happiness for all that you do - the repudiation of judaism.
oh gee----you might be right----Freud (also a jew) would agree

really -

No, Simund Freud was an atheist. He was known for his anti-religious views, and he believed that religion was a societal hindrance. However, his views on religion were complex and ambivalent.

freud knew well the diabolical intent of the false judaism commandments and the other trappings of judaism to persecute and victimize the innocent.

91 - lost their mind - referencing freud and any religion.
 
really -



freud knew well the diabolical intent of the false judaism commandments and the other trappings of judaism to persecute and victimize the innocent.

91 - lost their mind - referencing freud and any religion.
It is not clear to me that Freud ever self declared 'atheism'----
his book----MOSES AND MONOTHEISM is suggestive
 
his book----MOSES AND MONOTHEISM is suggestive

oh ...

2010 Reprint of 1939 Edition. In Moses and Monotheism, Freud speculates that Moses was not Jewish, but actually born into Ancient Egyptian nobility and was perhaps a follower of Akhenaten, an ancient Egyptian monotheist. Freud further suggests that Moses led only his close followers into freedom during an unstable period in Egyptian history and that his followers subsequently killed Moses in rebellion afterward. Freud speculates that the guilt from the murder of Moses is inherited through the generations; this guilt then drives the Jews to religion to make them feel better.

- maybe not the guy to herald judaism ... moses was not a jew, of course he meant jesus - - followers subsequently killed moses ... is there anyone the jews have not killed - - "this guilt then drives the Jews to religion to make them feel better" ... been saying the same for years, except - they have no remorse for their crimes - 91.
 
oh ...



- maybe not the guy to herald judaism ... moses was not a jew, of course he meant jesus - - followers subsequently killed moses ... is there anyone the jews have not killed - - "this guilt then drives the Jews to religion to make them feel better" ... been saying the same for years, except - they have no remorse for their crimes - 91.
Jesus didn't believe that DA JOOOOS killed Moses. --The book Freud wrote is a bit fanciful----but I enjoyed it----he needed the
money for his cocaine
 
Jesus didn't believe that DA JOOOOS killed Moses. --The book Freud wrote is a bit fanciful----but I enjoyed it----he needed the
money for his cocaine

so - 91 does have a familiarity w/ jesus ...

surly freud was thinking why moses would destroy the tablets before ever being read by anyone - are jews sheep, anyone else would have been stoned to death for such a crime. what really then is judaism.
 
The ones who killed him
According to the New Testament, the Jews killed him. Pilate was pushed into killing him, but he didn't want to.

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The way you say that tends to diminish the sacrifice aspect.
It's simply a fact, according to scripture. It wasn't the Romans who sought his death, it was the Jewish leaders and those who were supporting them. That's why the crowd shouted, "Crucify him". To pretend that the Romans did it, whereas the Jews didn't, is simply wrong, according to the New Testament.
 
It's simply a fact, according to scripture. It wasn't the Romans who sought his death, it was the Jewish leaders and those who were supporting them. That's why the crowd shouted, "Crucify him". To pretend that the Romans did it, whereas the Jews didn't, is simply wrong, according to the New Testament.
I thought it was simply a fact that Christ died for our sins. If so, anyone who has sinned would be an author of his death.
 
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I thought it was simply a fact that Christ died for our sins. If so, anyone who has sinned would be an author of his death.
Yes in a way that's true, and in other way, it's also true, that the people who sought his death when he was here alive on Earth in the flesh, were the Jews, not the Romans. So I can agree with your statement and likewise with Paul when he says:

1 Thessalonians 2:14–16

14 For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews,6 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind 16 by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last!7

Matthew 21:26 reads:

21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.

John 19:12

From then on Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out, "If you release this man, you are not Caesar 's friend. Everyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar."
 
Yes in a way that's true, and in other way, it's also true, that the people who sought his death when he was here alive on Earth in the flesh, were the Jews, not the Romans. So I can agree with your statement and likewise with Paul when he says:

1 Thessalonians 2:14–16

14 For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews,6 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind 16 by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last!7

Matthew 21:26 reads:
21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.


John 19:12

From then on Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out, "If you release this man, you are not Caesar 's friend. Everyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar."
It's really convenient to blame the Jews for his death, but that just isn't so. Everyone had a hand in it. EQUALLY.
 
It's really convenient to blame the Jews for his death, but that just isn't so. Everyone had a hand in it. EQUALLY.

1 Thessalonians 2:14–16​

14 For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews,6 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind 16 by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last!7
 

1 Thessalonians 2:14–16​

14 For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews,6 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind 16 by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last!7
I understand the narrative. Do you understand that's how it had to be? Do you understand why God made the sacrifice? Do you think God was winging it? That this somehow wasn't what was supposed to have happened? Because I am not understanding the significance of what you are arguing? Are you arguing Jesus shouldn't have been put to death? That it should have turned out different? What is the significance of the religious leaders having Jesus put to death for sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy by the hands of the Romans? What do you think that means?
 
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