Tax Cuts Steal Democracy

[The Derp]

The Marxist liberal is now trying to say that Ireland dropped his corporate tax but for no reason whatsoever in fact the facts would indicate they dropped it to raise unemployment rather than to lower. This is the state of modern Marxist thinking

Ireland's current unemployment rate: 6.4%
US current unemployment rate: 4.5%

So tell me again how Ireland's low tax rate for businesses creates jobs in Ireland (or anywhere for that matter)?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Marxist liberal is now trying to say that Ireland dropped his corporate tax but for no reason whatsoever in fact the facts would indicate they dropped it to raise unemployment rather than to lower. This is the state of modern Marxist thinking

Ireland's current unemployment rate: 6.4%
US current unemployment rate: 4.5%

So tell me again how Ireland's low tax rate for businesses creates jobs in Ireland (or anywhere for that matter)?

The figures from the American Chamber of Commerce in Ireland go back to 1990 and show corporations continued to cross the Atlantic even during the dark years of the recent recession.

The ACCI’s latest report into foreign direct investment shows that 700 US companies based in Ireland now employ 130,000 people.

The list of major firms operating in the Republic includes Intel, Boston Scientific, Dell, Pfizer, Google, Hewlett Packard, Facebook and Johnson and Johnson.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Marxist liberal is now trying to say that Ireland dropped his corporate tax but for no reason whatsoever in fact the facts would indicate they dropped it to raise unemployment rather than to lower. This is the state of modern Marxist thinking

Ireland's current unemployment rate: 6.4%
US current unemployment rate: 4.5%

So tell me again how Ireland's low tax rate for businesses creates jobs in Ireland (or anywhere for that matter)?

Got it so the Marxist liberal would have us raise taxes on business and raise the prices of what businesses produce to increase jobs is that correct

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Marxist liberal is now trying to say that Ireland dropped his corporate tax but for no reason whatsoever in fact the facts would indicate they dropped it to raise unemployment rather than to lower. This is the state of modern Marxist thinking

Ireland's current unemployment rate: 6.4%
US current unemployment rate: 4.5%

So tell me again how Ireland's low tax rate for businesses creates jobs in Ireland (or anywhere for that matter)?

You must write to Ireland right away and tell them they got it backwards they must raise their taxes to improve their economy

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

To stupid of course there are many variables involved which render Ireland not a scientific experiment do you understand even the basics of science

So you submit Ireland into the debate, but then say that it's actually not something relevant given the myriad "variables". So then why did you enter it into the debate if you knew it was a flawed argument to make???

It's a Flawed argument when dropping the corporate tax rate to 12% causes thousands and thousands of corporations from all over the world to move there??in the moronic world of Marxism is the objective government policies that caused thousands and thousands of corporations to move away??

 

[The Derp]

The figures from the American Chamber of Commerce in Ireland go back to 1990 and show corporations continued to cross the Atlantic even during the dark years of the recent recession.

So again, more goalpost shifting. Your claim was that Ireland's low tax rate creates jobs. That is simply not true, as is evidenced in the actual job figures you posted that showed job growth in 5-6 years what Obama did in one week this past January. So where are the jobs you claimed Ireland created? Er um - that Ireland "kept". Whatever.

BTW - Ireland's unemployment levels have consistently been above ours since they started this tax break nonsense.

The ACCI’s latest report into foreign direct investment shows that 700 US companies based in Ireland now employ 130,000 people.

OK, and that is over what period of time? 5-6 years. So great, Ireland created about 21,000 jobs a year, or just 1,800 jobs a month. By contrast, Obama created 227,000 jobs in January of this year. So what Ireland did in 5-6 years, Obama nearly doubled in just one month.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Taxes are extracted from a business

A business pays income tax on profits, not revenues. Profits come after expenses are deducted from revenues. At no point will a business have zero profit if; its expenses are less than its revenues and the tax rate is less than 100%.

Taxes are extracted from a business whether they go to the government or to a supplier of glass makes no difference in money is gone lower the taxes lower the price can be in the more money shareholders can make for my corporation's point of view the text cost in the wrong material cost are identical the costs are passed on Two customers a corporation is a tax collector not a tax payer the Liberals are far too stupid to know that they pay the tax

I want everyone to look at this post and see that it is clearly something that was put through a Google translator of some kind. It's a gigantic, run-on sentence full of syntax and grammatical errors. This is how you can tell you are dealing with a Russian employing Active Measures. Once they get off script, that's when the posts become less coherent and articulate.

It must be very embarrassing to lose the debate to a Russian computer?

 

[The Derp]

Got it so the Marxist liberal would have us raise taxes on business and raise the prices of what businesses produce to increase jobs is that correct

Hey man, your argument was bullshit. I called it out for being bullshit, so you come back with hysterics.

Save it for someone who cares, drama queen.

 

[The Derp]

You must write to Ireland right away and tell them they got it backwards they must raise their taxes to improve their economy

You claimed their low tax rate created jobs...it didn't.

So now you are reduced to straw men because you got nothing.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Got it so the Marxist liberal would have us raise taxes on business and raise the prices of what businesses produce to increase jobs is that correct

Hey man, your argument was bullshit. I called it out for being bullshit, so you come back with hysterics.

Save it for someone who cares, drama queen.

How are you embarrassed to have argued that raising taxes is a good thing for business and employment??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You must write to Ireland right away and tell them they got it backwards they must raise their taxes to improve their economy

You claimed their low tax rate created jobs...it didn't.

So now you are reduced to straw men because you got nothing.

Are you saying about the thousands and thousands of corporations that move there didn't create any jobs in Ireland and that they didn't become a Celtic tiger

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The figures from the American Chamber of Commerce in Ireland go back to 1990 and show corporations continued to cross the Atlantic even during the dark years of the recent recession.

The ACCI’s latest report into foreign direct investment shows that 700 US companies based in Ireland now employ 130,000 people.

The list of major firms operating in the Republic includes Intel, Boston Scientific, Dell, Pfizer, Google, Hewlett Packard, Facebook and Johnson and Johnson.

 

[The Derp]

It's a Flawed argument when dropping the corporate tax rate to 12% causes thousands and thousands of corporations from all over the world to move there??

First of all, not thousands. Secondly, yes! Your argument is flawed. You said Ireland's low tax rate created jobs. It didn't. Then you moved the goalposts to say it "kept jobs". Which is, ummmm, flawed also. You can't prove that jobs were "kept" because of the low tax rate. Furthermore, Ireland's unemployment rate is higher than ours. This, after 5-6 years of low corporate taxes.

So to summarize; you tried to make an argument in favor of tax cuts for businesses, you invoked Ireland, you posted figures that did not corroborate the claims you made, then you lie by exaggeration to make it seem like the policy works when at best it treads water.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Telus does the Marxist want us to raise taxes on drug companies so they will hire more scientist and inventor more new drugs to cure cancer??

 

[The Derp]

It must be very embarrassing to lose the debate to a Russian computer?

Who says I lost the debate? It's impossible to lose a debate with someone who isn't even debating.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

[QUOTE="The Derp, post: 17100814, member: 6272]You said Ireland's low tax rate created jobs. It didn't .[/QUOTE]
The figures from the American Chamber of Commerce in Ireland go back to 1990 and show corporations continued to cross the Atlantic even during the dark years of the recent recession.

The ACCI’s latest report into foreign direct investment shows that 700 US companies based in Ireland now employ 130,000 people.

The list of major firms operating in the Republic includes Intel, Boston Scientific, Dell, Pfizer, Google, Hewlett Packard, Facebook and Johnson and Johnson.

 

[The Derp]

Are you saying about the thousands and thousands of corporations that move there didn't create any jobs in Ireland and that they didn't become a Celtic tiger

You said Ireland created 130,000 jobs in 5-6 years of these tax cuts. Obama created nearly double that number of jobs his last month in office, and he did that without lowering the corporate tax rate.

Also, US unemployment is about 2 percentage points below Ireland's. How do you account for that? Oh, hahaha, what am I asking? Of course you won't account for that. Silly me.

 

[The Derp]

Telus does the Marxist want us to raise taxes on drug companies so they will hire more scientist and inventor more new drugs to cure cancer??

Drug companies spend so little on R&D it's embarrassing. The #1 funder for R&D is the NIH. Drug companies spend more on marketing than they do on R&D.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Are you saying about the thousands and thousands of corporations that move there didn't create any jobs in Ireland and that they didn't become a Celtic tiger

You said Ireland created 130,000 jobs in 5-6 years of these tax cuts. Obama created nearly double that number of jobs his last month in office, and he did that without lowering the corporate tax rate.

Also, US unemployment is about 2 percentage points below Ireland's. How do you account for that? Oh, hahaha, what am I asking? Of course you won't account for that. Silly me.

100% stupid Ireland was dramatically in debt from the housing crisis era and had to take a huge bailout so the economies are not comparable in 1000 years do you understand that and science all of your variables have to be held constant except the one you are measuring???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Telus does the Marxist want us to raise taxes on drug companies so they will hire more scientist and inventor more new drugs to cure cancer??

Drug companies spend so little on R&D it's embarrassing. The #1 funder for R&D is the NIH. Drug companies spend more on marketing than they do on R&D.

Good so we should raise taxes on drug companies to get them to hire more scientists and to invent more cures for cancer