Tax Cuts Steal Democracy

[hadit]

Taxes reduce profits.

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?

Keep taxes high, and you just increase motivation to hide profits and shield them from taxation. It's as if pro-taxers never account for human behavior.

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

That's because labor is not an expense to employees while It is to employers.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Taxes reduce profits.

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?

Keep taxes high, and you just increase motivation to hide profits and shield them from taxation. It's as if pro-taxers never account for human behavior.

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

And when the Businesses get a tax break on labor costs, they can hire more labor. Or should more people on welfare ,that taxes money from business and laborers, and provides nothing but a hole in society?

 

[danielpalos]

Tax cuts steal democracy? The more you cut taxes the more the people have power and the less government has power. Therefore tax cuts protect and secure democracy rather then steal it.this is something a child could understand but not a liberal.

Moonbattery: Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.

Without Uncle Sugar there to take care of them, if any program is lowered or done away with, then that could mean people like Julia might not have Uncle Sugar there to take care of them. It is a mental disorder.

In the Age of Corporate Welfare?

Only the right wing prefers to, "hate on the poor", at every opportunity.

 

[danielpalos]

Taxes reduce profits.

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?

Keep taxes high, and you just increase motivation to hide profits and shield them from taxation. It's as if pro-taxers never account for human behavior.

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

That's because labor is not an expense to employees while It is to employers.

dear, taxes on labor are an expense to the employee.

 

[danielpalos]

Taxes reduce profits.

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?

Keep taxes high, and you just increase motivation to hide profits and shield them from taxation. It's as if pro-taxers never account for human behavior.

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

And when the Businesses get a tax break on labor costs, they can hire more labor. Or should more people on welfare ,that taxes money from business and laborers, and provides nothing but a hole in society?

nothing but red herrings and false dichotomies; maybe the right wing should be on welfare, doing drugs, instead of learning how to fish.
A tax on labor for labor, is less efficient since there is more Labor circulating more money, if they don't pay a labor tax for a work ethic from the historical, Age of Iron. "End the double taxation on labor", not lazier, laissez-fair capitalists.

 

[hadit]

Taxes reduce profits.

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?

Keep taxes high, and you just increase motivation to hide profits and shield them from taxation. It's as if pro-taxers never account for human behavior.

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

That's because labor is not an expense to employees while It is to employers.

dear, taxes on labor are an expense to the employee.

Do you want to cut SS and Medicare taxes?

 

[danielpalos]

Tax cuts steal democracy? The more you cut taxes the more the people have power and the less government has power. Therefore tax cuts protect and secure democracy rather then steal it.this is something a child could understand but not a liberal.

Moonbattery: Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.

Without Uncle Sugar there to take care of them, if any program is lowered or done away with, then that could mean people like Julia might not have Uncle Sugar there to take care of them. It is a mental disorder.

This is true. Liberalism is about leaching it encourages the leechor and the leechee not to work And thus ultimately destroys our country. This is how the Soviet union in Communist China Slowly starved of 120 million to death

dear, socialism bailing out capitalism is what makes us a First World economy.

Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment and structural forms of unemployment pursuant to the bottom line, is worse.

 

[danielpalos]

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?


The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

That's because labor is not an expense to employees while It is to employers.

dear, taxes on labor are an expense to the employee.

Do you want to cut SS and Medicare taxes?

in favor of more general taxes on Firms? Sure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Taxes reduce profits.

Right, but they don't eliminate profits. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand, unless you apply trickle-down theory. So is that what you're doing?

Keep taxes high, and you just increase motivation to hide profits and shield them from taxation. It's as if pro-taxers never account for human behavior.

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%. So it's already low. By contrast, the average effective individual tax rate is about 17.4%. So if corporations are people, shouldn't they pay taxes like people?

The average effective corporate tax rate in this country is about 12.4%.

But how could a company pay less than 35% on their net profit?
Please explain.

Employers get a tax break for labor costs; Labor does not get a tax break for labor costs.

Become an employer, stick it to the man!!

 

[Flopper]

Back in 1776 the tax rate on the US citizen was around 3% and the people rose up and went to war with the punishing government.

Ummm...no, they revolted because of a tax on tea, not income. 1776 is also 240+ years ago, and the problems of the 18th century are not the same problems we face in the 21st century. You wouldn't treat cancer with leeches, would you? So why would you apply 18th-century thinking to 21st-century problems? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Every time the liberals start campaigning they HOWL how Social Security is going bankrupt and the evil R's want to take it away, yet you never hear from the Libtards, that WELFARE is going bankrupt, because working people pay into the SS system, expecting something back when they retire, those that sit on their liberal sorry asses, expect something but never contribute into it.

First, liberals do not howl that SS is going bankrupt, Conservatives do. And it's not "going bankrupt". SS can still pay full benefits out until 2030, which is 13 years away. Hardly an immediate problem. Secondly, if you are going to make the argument that SS is going bankrupt and needs to be fixed, the simple solution is to just remove the cap on taxable SS income, that way everyone pays the same % of their income into SS. Right now, the cap is around $120K/yr. That covers up to about 90% of all workers. Once you surpass $120K in income, none of it is taxed for SS. That doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? By just removing the cap on taxable SS income, you extend SS's solvency by decades. As far as welfare goes, the biggest welfare queens are red state legislatures who take the welfare block grant (reformed by Conservatives in the 90's) and apply as much as they can of that block grant to the deficits caused by their taxation policies. All red states do that, but some are worse than others. Kansas, for example, cut taxes, saw its deficits and debt spike, saw its credit downgraded at least twice, cut education spending, raided the Highway Fund, and raided as much of the Welfare block grant that was legally allowed, and still couldn't balance its budget. It's not welfare that's bankrupt, it's red states who use the welfare to paper over the deficits caused by their tax policies who are the ones "bankrupt" here. The Conservative proposal that didn't even get a vote in the House would have changed Medicaid to a block grant as well, which means red staters would use that block grant not for health care, but to paper over the holes in their budgets created by their poor taxation and economic policies.

if you are going to make the argument that SS is going bankrupt and needs to be fixed, the simple solution is to just remove the cap on taxable SS income, that way everyone pays the same % of their income into SS.

If you double, for instance, the tax a rich guy pays into SS, you have to double, basically, the benefit he receives. That would seem to make the problem worse, not better.

Why don't the liberals ever say that Welfare is going bankrupt? Because liberals love to scare the begezus out of the old people who worked hard and had to have their money FORCED into their government retirement. Poor people don't contribute shit to Welfare so have nothing to lose. But demand everything.

Welfare is going bankrupt?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Supply-side does not lead to economic growth. .

Actually the supply of new inventions from the stone age forward caused the economic growth from the stone age forward. Now you know the most fundamental principle about economic growth. Notice that when a liberal and conservative meet the conservative ends up running a kindergarten.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. What you all have failed to articulate is how increased profits translate to increased demand,

increased profits are needed to increase or finance new inventions. A new invention like a cancer cure, for example, will increase demand, i.e, there will be demand for the new cancer cure.
Now do you understand now? See why we must be positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance??