Social Democracy

We have proposed time and time again...

US should modernise their way of voting to preference voting and multi seat were possible...
Yeah. I agree. I campaign regularly for ranked choice voting and multi-seat districts. It gets rid of gerrymandering AND the lesser-of-two-evils nonsense. Republicans and Democrats are joining force to squash this.
US Congress is now packed with rotten districts, i.e. districts that aren't competitive... The is while the Rest of the world are having multi seat preference voting with multiple parties and far richer choice between parties and candidates in between these parties...
Yep.
Obviously GOP or Dems don't want this. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. But they have also got this scare tactic that multiple parties would leave a weaker government...
We had a ballot initiative for just such a system in Colorado. It was polling well (60-70% support) a few months before the vote, but the DNC caught wind of it and went apeshit with attack ads and fear mongering. They won. Of course. :(

Looks like we mostly agree on this. Now if you could just stop cnp'ing socialist propaganda, we'd get along hunky dory. :)
 
You really don't read polls...
Just like Reagan reversed the Carter disaster democrats lost the next 3 elections. Biden was even worse. Democrats have no candidate for president, and they are becoming more extreme distancing themselves form Americas main stream. The next president will be GOP and that means 8 more years after Trump. If its a Vance Rubio administration Rubio will likely win and we get another 8 years.
 
Yeah. I agree. I campaign regularly for ranked choice voting and multi-seat districts. It gets rid of gerrymandering AND the lesser-of-two-evils nonsense. Republicans and Democrats are joining force to squash this.

Yep.

We had a ballot initiative for just such a system in Colorado. It was polling well (60-70% support) a few months before the vote, but the DNC caught wind of it and went apeshit with attack ads and fear mongering. They won. Of course. :(

Looks like we mostly agree on this. Now if you could just stop cnp'ing socialist propaganda, we'd get along hunky dory. :)
Preference viting allows the least popular to win. Lets not change what works
 
Preference viting allows the least popular to win. Lets not change what works
No. That's not how it works. That's what you're party is telling you because they're afraid of it. Wake up.
 
If its not broke dont fix it. Majority vote is just fine
LOL - wow. It's broken all to hell. Seriously, if you can sit and watch Biden and Trump making idiots out of themselves and think everything is just fine, you're batshit insane.

You claimed:

Preference viting allows the least popular to win.
Which is an ironic complaint, because this is exactly the problem RCV solves. It ensures that the winner has actual majority support. The current system allows candidates to win with less that half the vote. If you understood RCV it works, you'd know that already.
 
LOL - wow. It's broken all to hell. Seriously, if you can sit and watch Biden and Trump making idiots out of themselves and think everything is just fine, you're batshit insane.

You claimed:


Which is an ironic complaint, because this is exactly the problem RCV solves. It ensures that the winner has actual majority support. The current system allows candidates to win with less that half the vote. If you understood RCV it works, you'd know that already.
Biden was a disaster Trump is an astounding success. RCV doesnt work because people cant change their minds. We have an electoral college system not a majority.
 
I'm already retired, idiot. And I'm doing just fine.
God, you're an insufferable ass.
Ah, so you already got yours. Well guess what? If you take COLA increases for seniors out, workers/middle class are getting totally screwed

A declining personal income measure is bad news for the economy​

The decline of a statistic known as personal income excluding transfers is seen as one indicator of a recession.

Every month, the Bureau of Economic Analysis offers up a few different ways to measure people’s income. There’s total personal income and income after taxes, but neither of those gives a clear picture of what’s going on with the labor market because they include payments from the government that are not wages.

Right now, that number shows that income has been falling.
 
You really don't read polls...
He knows Republicans are going to cheat. Did you see Mike Pence on Bill Maher? He said something like "they tried to stop the house from certifying the votes on Jan 6".

Yes Mike, that was the plan. Start a riot that stops the official process and then have the Supreme Court decide who won. And have the Supreme Court hand it to Trump just like they did Bush in 2000.

Trump thought that would happen in 2020 but it didn't.
 
Yeah. I agree. I campaign regularly for ranked choice voting and multi-seat districts. It gets rid of gerrymandering AND the lesser-of-two-evils nonsense. Republicans and Democrats are joining force to squash this.

Yep.

We had a ballot initiative for just such a system in Colorado. It was polling well (60-70% support) a few months before the vote, but the DNC caught wind of it and went apeshit with attack ads and fear mongering. They won. Of course. :(

Looks like we mostly agree on this. Now if you could just stop cnp'ing socialist propaganda, we'd get along hunky dory. :)
In fairness both GOP and Dem have killed this equally... No angels on either side...

Here is a weird one for America...

Say in Ireland, all the social choices are enshrined by the constitution but the constitution is a simple voting majority... So Abortion, Divorce, Death Penalty, Children Rights... are all governed by simple votes...
Ireland has one of the longest and most restrictive Constitutions in First World... There is very little interpretation for the Irish Supreme Courts, no real room to wiggle.
But the big difference is that Ireland has changed its constitution 37 times since 1970, the last time US allowed a constitution amendment.
The Irish President said the Irish Constitution is a living Constitution that changes and adapts with the people and their changing views. US hasn't changed its constitution in 56 years (1992 was ratified years before), that is over 22% life of the country while the country is changing fast...
The reason the Irish do this, is to not have politicians social views as part of their jobs... Seriously, in Ireland, you generally don't know most politicians views on Abortion or Religion, it is not their job, you are there to run the country)i.e. Roads, Education, Health, Policing...). It would be like bringing up Abortion in a business meeting at work... Kind of, 'not the place man'...
 
Just like Reagan reversed the Carter disaster democrats lost the next 3 elections. Biden was even worse. Democrats have no candidate for president, and they are becoming more extreme distancing themselves form Americas main stream. The next president will be GOP and that means 8 more years after Trump. If its a Vance Rubio administration Rubio will likely win and we get another 8 years.
Dems put up Andy Bashear and simply asks how did controlling Inflation and not getting in wars work out?

Rubio looks like a sell out even to Trump supporters... He is an embarrassing human being who dropped the knee and kissed the ring...

Trump is running right now to be one of the most unpopular Presidents in US history and you think US are going to pick the guy who dropped the knee... Delusional..
 
Dems put up Andy Bashear and simply asks how did controlling Inflation and not getting in wars work out?

Rubio looks like a sell out even to Trump supporters... He is an embarrassing human being who dropped the knee and kissed the ring...

Trump is running right now to be one of the most unpopular Presidents in US history and you think US are going to pick the guy who dropped the knee... Delusional..
My cat could win against the candidates you have. Incompetent corrupt losers wack jobs and a NAZI abuser of women who masturbated in public restrooms. Bring it on
 
Biden was a disaster Trump is an astounding success. RCV doesnt work because people cant change their minds. We have an electoral college system not a majority.
dblack And here is the main problem...

Ignorance is a very big issue... Simply no clue...

He will complain about Government having too much power and does everything to make them as undemocratic as possible..
 
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Rubio looks like a sell out even to Trump supporters... He is an embarrassing human being who dropped the knee and kissed the ring...
Where do you get this nonsense?
Rubio is wildly popular. You're just pulling this out of your ass.
Trump is running right now to be one of the most unpopular Presidents in US history and you think US are going to pick the guy who dropped the knee... Delusional..
The most unpopular President in American history is this idiot:

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My cat could win against the candidates you have. Incompetent corrupt losers wack jobs and a NAZI abuser of women who masturbated in public restrooms. Bring it on
Cool...

You clearly are not watching the polls... Trump is seriously under water... He is going down as the worst President in modern history...

Watch what is going to happen when they have the insider trading hearings after the midterms.
 
dblack And here is the main problem...

Ignorance is a very big issue... Simply no clue...

He will complain about Government having too much power and does everything to make them as undemocratic as possible..
Trump has reduced the power of government domesticlly, with tax and regulation cuts and firing 300000 useless federal workers.
He increased the power of government in foreign policy.
Whats wrong with that. Democrats are not the party of democracy. They haarvest ballots, invited 11 million illegals
dblack And here is the main problem...

Ignorance is a very big issue... Simply no clue...

He will complain about Government having too much power and does everything to make them as undemocratic as possible..
Youre not paying attention since you are big government statest.
Trump reduced the power of government domestically by cutting taxes regulations ad 300000 workers. The Post office will now screen all mail in ballots by order. That will stop dencrats harvesting votes.
Trump increased the power of government in foreign policy. The opposite of what democrats did under Biden which was a disaster
 
The Healthcare system in Western Europe performs way better than US...

Europe has a mixed economy just like US, difference they don't let corporations run it...

Europe is run for the people, US is run for Corporations (Lobbyists)
Let's leave NATO to start. Also, as Europe has socialized more and more their GDP is affected more and more. In the year 2000. the European Union had a GDP of 13.5 trillion dollars. The United States had a GDP of 10.3 trillion dollars. in the year 2025 the European Union had a GDP of 20 trillion dollars, and the United States had a 30 trillion-dollar GDP. Inflation also raised at a higher percentage during this time. Growth massively slowed in the European Union due to all of their socialism and social agendas with immigration getting nasty and they spent little on defense and security and intelligence as we covered their asses. Even so, we do not produce products like we used to and saw the results with Covid when the supply chain became limited.
 
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