Support Israel? Yes or no?

[Billo_Really]

Then the law should change according to reality, since reality is just like it, REAL, and it's not to be changed to the law's definitions.

The reality is, there's only one solution to an occupation and that is to end it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Egypt lost the area in War...............As did Syria in the Golan heights.................They lost and lost territory in the War's by their design..........................Virtually every map on earth's boundaries were drawn in blood from Wars.............

Under the same deal.............why shouldn't we give back the West to Mexico.............We took it by force..................Who's demanding we give that back...............since Mexifornia is full of dumb ass liberals perhaps they should volunteer to give it back to Mexico............and show us the Might doesn't equal right.

Conquer by Conquest has been outlawed since the end of WWII.

How many times do you have to be told this, you ******* dolt?

That same statement has been used throughout the history of mankind dumbass.............

They attacked and lost............too damned bad.............If they ever win every Israeli will be killed down to the children.............The Muslim extremist in the region have proved this throughout history. Ask the Armenians should you be nice to the Turks..................what's left of them.

Ask the Christians who are being slaughtered by ISIS and other groups preaching Convert or die........

Gaza, and the West Bank have been lobbing rockets and missiles into Israel for a long time..........So Israel hit's them back.............It's just that Israel has the better weapons and kills what it aims at.

They have no reason to apologize for fighting back.............and as long as they keep attacking Israel they can continue to complain about getting their ass handed to them.

End terrorism, stop lobbing rockets and missiles and stop dying.............

Self Preservation needs no explanation............If they fire on you Israel KICK THEIR ASSES.

 

[Billo_Really]

That same statement has been used throughout the history of mankind dumbass.............

Are you retarded?

Listen dipshit, its been illegal since the end of WWII, you fuckin' dumbass!

Embrace the horror, you fuckin' *****!

They attacked and lost............too damned bad.............If they ever win every Israeli will be killed down to the children.............The Muslim extremist in the region have proved this throughout history. Ask the Armenians should you be nice to the Turks..................what's left of them.

Palestinian's didn't attack; you attacked Egypt.

Ask the Christians who are being slaughtered by ISIS and other groups preaching Convert or die........

Are you referring to the ISIS group led by an IDF colonel?

Gaza, and the West Bank have been lobbing rockets and missiles into Israel for a long time..........So Israel hit's them back.............It's just that Israel has the better weapons and kills what it aims at.

And the occupation had been going on 34 years before the first rocket went up.

They have no reason to apologize for fighting back.............and as long as they keep attacking Israel they can continue to complain about getting their ass handed to them.

They're not attacking Israel; they're responding to Israeli aggression.

End terrorism, stop lobbing rockets and missiles and stop dying.............

End the occupation and you won't get rockets.

Self Preservation needs no explanation............If they fire on you Israel KICK THEIR ASSES.

If Israel fires on Russia, it will get its Zionist ass kicked.

 

[eagle1462010]

That same statement has been used throughout the history of mankind dumbass.............

Are you retarded?

Listen dipshit, its been illegal since the end of WWII, you fuckin' dumbass!

Embrace the horror, you fuckin' *****!

They attacked and lost............too damned bad.............If they ever win every Israeli will be killed down to the children.............The Muslim extremist in the region have proved this throughout history. Ask the Armenians should you be nice to the Turks..................what's left of them.

Palestinian's didn't attack; you attacked Egypt.

Ask the Christians who are being slaughtered by ISIS and other groups preaching Convert or die........

Are you referring to the ISIS group led by an IDF colonel?

Gaza, and the West Bank have been lobbing rockets and missiles into Israel for a long time..........So Israel hit's them back.............It's just that Israel has the better weapons and kills what it aims at.

And the occupation had been going on 34 years before the first rocket went up.

They have no reason to apologize for fighting back.............and as long as they keep attacking Israel they can continue to complain about getting their ass handed to them.

They're not attacking Israel; they're responding to Israeli aggression.

End terrorism, stop lobbing rockets and missiles and stop dying.............

End the occupation and you won't get rockets.

Self Preservation needs no explanation............If they fire on you Israel KICK THEIR ASSES.

If Israel fires on Russia, it will get its Zionist ass kicked.

BS................

The armies of Egypt and Syria were massed and were waiting for the attack. They were bragging about all the Shiny Russia tanks and planes they had............Sadat at the time when attacked bragged that the Israeli's would lose a little earlier when hit.................The Israeli's had no reason to give the tactical advantage to those poised to kill them.

They hit fast and hard and turned the shiny Russian Tanks and planes into scrap metal..........and rightfully so............Egypt lost the Sinai............and Israel took the Golan heights which is a strategic defensive position.................

In 73 they attacked Israel..........and even though they surprised Israel with anti aircraft batteries and shoulder fired anti tank weapons........the Israeli's fought through and outflanked them and drove into their rear...............at the end of the War........Egyptian forces remaining were encircled in Egypt itself and were meat on the table...........all the IDF needed was the order to fire............Towards Syria the IDF was ready to fire on Damascus itself.................

Again they lost................

We can go back to 48.......when all the arabs attacked them...........Israel's choice was fight or die. Backed up to the sea they had only that choice.................They won................

They have been living in perpetual War surrounded by people who have vowed to kill them all........They have no reason to play nice, or give a shit what those who want them dead have to say.

 

[Searcher44]

Citizens of any nation should not support their own country blindly without a skeptical eye. They certainly shouldn't support another nation's policies without weighing their own best interests against the strategic goals of that foreign nation. As Delta said your question is too simplistic. Most rational people support the existential rights of all peoples to live in peace but will not cede the sovereignty of their own country in blind subservience to another nation's wishes.

 

[Hossfly]

Citizens of any nation should not support their own country blindly without a skeptical eye. They certainly shouldn't support another nation's policies without weighing their own best interests against the strategic goals of that foreign nation. As Delta said your question is too simplistic. Most rational people support the existential rights of all peoples to live in peace but will not cede the sovereignty of their own country in blind subservience to another nation's wishes.

“My country, right or wrong. In one sense I say so too. My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”
~~Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

 

[Searcher44]

Citizens of any nation should not support their own country blindly without a skeptical eye. They certainly shouldn't support another nation's policies without weighing their own best interests against the strategic goals of that foreign nation. As Delta said your question is too simplistic. Most rational people support the existential rights of all peoples to live in peace but will not cede the sovereignty of their own country in blind subservience to another nation's wishes.

“My country, right or wrong. In one sense I say so too. My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”
~~Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

Nice. Relevance?

 

[Hossfly]

Citizens of any nation should not support their own country blindly without a skeptical eye. They certainly shouldn't support another nation's policies without weighing their own best interests against the strategic goals of that foreign nation. As Delta said your question is too simplistic. Most rational people support the existential rights of all peoples to live in peace but will not cede the sovereignty of their own country in blind subservience to another nation's wishes.

“My country, right or wrong. In one sense I say so too. My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”
~~Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

Nice. Relevance?

Schurz said it better than your explanation.

 

[Searcher44]

Citizens of any nation should not support their own country blindly without a skeptical eye. They certainly shouldn't support another nation's policies without weighing their own best interests against the strategic goals of that foreign nation. As Delta said your question is too simplistic. Most rational people support the existential rights of all peoples to live in peace but will not cede the sovereignty of their own country in blind subservience to another nation's wishes.

“My country, right or wrong. In one sense I say so too. My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”
~~Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

Nice. Relevance?

Schurz said it better than your explanation.

Ahhh....Okay. I think he said something a little different from me but folks from that era always seem like poets to me. Have you ever read civil war letters home from the battlefield? Even the lowliest soldier's letters have a simple magnificent power to reveal the terrible triumphant tragedy of that war. Anyway if you think he said what I said I'll give you that he did say it better.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why doesn't the civilized world follow that logic? because the civilized world is not the Middle East. In here, the more "humanity" and "charity" you show, the more they see it as weakness and attack you. Welcome to our neighborhood.

Pfft. That's a convenient excuse for Israel to hold and expand on land it never had any intention of giving back from the beginning. Be honest and call it what it is - theft. Don't pretend there is anything more noble than that.

In order for it to be theft, there needs to be an actual entity from which this was stolen. Look at the west bank, for instant. To who it beloged? Palestine? rubbish, of course, as there was never an actual state called Palestine. Jordan? nah ah, as Jordan itself occupied it illegaly, starting from 48. So if I didn't take it from any actual owner, since there was no owner of this, how can you call me a thief?

Jordan? nah ah, as Jordan itself occupied it illegaly, starting from 48.​

Whose land did Jordan occupy? If it was nobodies, why couldn't they just say it was theirs? And if it was nobodies, why is it occupied Palestinian territory now?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nah, nothing was given away...even stupidity doesn't equal that

Why should I give away something I gained in a fair battle, battled that I was never after, that was forced on me?

That's a deep question.

Indeed. It's a question covered by international law so we don't have to think too deeply

International law is irrelevant in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Actually, it's relevant when you can tell only Israel to follow it, but the fact that Palestinians run over babies and stab the elderly and launch rocket at the pregnant doesn't have to be treated by international law.

Oh bull. Israel benefits from International Law and there entire state derived from it. They use it when it suits them and cry victim when it doesn't. Stop pretending the Occupied Territories are anything BUT Occupied Territories and be honest for a change.

Take a look and respond

A professional liar. What a job.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

The Palestinians have never been offered their state.

 

[Indeependent]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

The Palestinians have never been offered their state.

Yes they have; it just hasn't been posted on KillTheFuckingJews.com.

 

[Hossfly]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

The Palestinians have never been offered their state.

Who told you that lie? They turn it down every time it's offered.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

The Palestinians have never been offered their state.

Yes they have; it just hasn't been posted on KillTheFuckingJews.com.

They have been offered little pieces of it on occasion.

 

[Indeependent]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

The Palestinians have never been offered their state.

Yes they have; it just hasn't been posted on KillTheFuckingJews.com.

They have been offered little pieces of it on occasion.

Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Shit.

 

[SAYIT]

A professional liar. What a job.

The Palestinians have never been offered their state.

Surely the irony will sail right over your head.

 

[Billo_Really]

BS................

The armies of Egypt and Syria were massed and were waiting for the attack. They were bragging about all the Shiny Russia tanks and planes they had............Sadat at the time when attacked bragged that the Israeli's would lose a little earlier when hit.................The Israeli's had no reason to give the tactical advantage to those poised to kill them.

They hit fast and hard and turned the shiny Russian Tanks and planes into scrap metal..........and rightfully so............Egypt lost the Sinai............and Israel took the Golan heights which is a strategic defensive position.................

In 73 they attacked Israel..........and even though they surprised Israel with anti aircraft batteries and shoulder fired anti tank weapons........the Israeli's fought through and outflanked them and drove into their rear...............at the end of the War........Egyptian forces remaining were encircled in Egypt itself and were meat on the table...........all the IDF needed was the order to fire............Towards Syria the IDF was ready to fire on Damascus itself.................

Again they lost................

We can go back to 48.......when all the arabs attacked them...........Israel's choice was fight or die. Backed up to the sea they had only that choice.................They won................

They have been living in perpetual War surrounded by people who have vowed to kill them all........They have no reason to play nice, or give a shit what those who want them dead have to say.

That's just a bullshit excuse.

You cannot change the fact that it was your tanks that rolled into Egypt to start the war.

You also cannot change the fact that since the end of WWII, it is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.

Now go back to school, junior, you were asleep in class the last time and flunked the lecture.

 

[Billo_Really]

Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Shit.

I think you left out an "l".

 

[Billo_Really]

Surely the irony will sail right over your head.

You shut up! I didn't give you permission to speak.