Support Israel? Yes or no?

[ogibillm]

Israel keeps a people imprisoned. They control their economy, their access to resources, their movement. Israel throws a fit when they fight back and kill dozens of civilians for every israeli death. Hundreds are detained without cause, livelihoods and homes destroyed. Now they've given the go ahead to shoot rock throwers.

And what happens to israel when they do that? Nothing. Not a damn thing. In fact, the united states rewards their fighting with more money and weapons.

So how is it you think israel isn't allowed to defend itself?

Why shouldn't they shoot rock throwers ? If somebody was throwing rocks at me you know what I'd do ? I'd SHOOT THEM. Keep shooting, our Israeli friends. Take out as many of those raghead rock throwers as you can.. When they're all dead, there can be peace again.

I want you to think back pn the protests in Ferguson. Should the police have opened fire on the crowds?

 

[Indeependent]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

 

[Coyote]

U.S. not supporting Israel? === un·im·ag·i·na·ble
/ˌənəˈmaj(ə)nəb(ə)l/
adjective

1. difficult or impossible to imagine or comprehend.
   synonyms: unthinkable, inconceivable, indescribable, incredible; More

 

[ogibillm]

U.S. not supporting Israel? === un·im·ag·i·na·ble
/ˌənəˈmaj(ə)nəb(ə)l/
adjective

1. difficult or impossible to imagine or comprehend.
   synonyms: unthinkable, inconceivable, indescribable, incredible; More

Sadly true

 

[Coyote]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

Dude, you can keep on asking but contrary to your misconceptions, you are not the boss of me and your own bias is quite obvious.

Keep waiting. Maybe someday, if you ask rather than demand, I might pay attention.

 

[Coyote]

It may be propaganda, but it's doesn't mean it aint true. I believe the best propaganda is actual truth. You responded to the narrator instead of the content. Care to re-think that>

Propaganda contains seeds of truth, but it's distorted. The call to rename the "Occupied Territories" is a political push, not a legal one because the law doesn't support it.

 

[Indeependent]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

Dude, you can keep on asking but contrary to your misconceptions, you are not the boss of me and your own bias is quite obvious.

Keep waiting. Maybe someday, if you ask rather than demand, I might pay attention.

I will presume your knowledge base is Jew Hating sites.
At least be honest and state such.

 

[Coyote]

Palestine was British territory before Irgun scum started biting the hand that saved and fed them. Imperial forces marched on the Nazis, freed the Jews and saved them from leaky ships they took to what is now called Israel. How were we thanked? Kidnappings, terrorism and, ultimately, the King David Hotel bombing. We didn't hang enough of the ungrateful bastards.

There is one solution to the problem of Hamas (and the Palestinans who elected them) >>

100% EXTERMINATION.

Wow. Well...that's one Pro-Israeli's position. You read Mein Kampf lately?

 

[Indeependent]

Palestine was British territory before Irgun scum started biting the hand that saved and fed them. Imperial forces marched on the Nazis, freed the Jews and saved them from leaky ships they took to what is now called Israel. How were we thanked? Kidnappings, terrorism and, ultimately, the King David Hotel bombing. We didn't hang enough of the ungrateful bastards.

There is one solution to the problem of Hamas (and the Palestinans who elected them) >>

100% EXTERMINATION.

Wow. Well...that's one Pro-Israeli's position. You read Mein Kampf lately?

I've read it; Hitler was a doomed psycho loser from youth as his alcoholic father used to beat Adolf and mom to a bloody pulp on a nightly basic.

 

[Coyote]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

Dude, you can keep on asking but contrary to your misconceptions, you are not the boss of me and your own bias is quite obvious.

Keep waiting. Maybe someday, if you ask rather than demand, I might pay attention.

I will presume your knowledge base is Jew Hating sites.
At least be honest and state such.

Your "jooooooo hate" diatribe is shallow and old. Let's talk about "honesty" - I source my arguments so you can see what sites I use, which Jew hating sites do I use?

 

[Coyote]

Palestine was British territory before Irgun scum started biting the hand that saved and fed them. Imperial forces marched on the Nazis, freed the Jews and saved them from leaky ships they took to what is now called Israel. How were we thanked? Kidnappings, terrorism and, ultimately, the King David Hotel bombing. We didn't hang enough of the ungrateful bastards.

There is one solution to the problem of Hamas (and the Palestinans who elected them) >>

100% EXTERMINATION.

Wow. Well...that's one Pro-Israeli's position. You read Mein Kampf lately?

I've read it; Hitler was a doomed psycho loser from youth as his alcoholic father used to beat Adolf and mom to a bloody pulp on a nightly basic.

I heard he was a failed artist and that sent him off the rails.

 

[Indeependent]

Here's a creative propoganda response to Ayalon's video:

I asked for a list of 5 history books you've read; I'm still waiting.
You see, you are looking at this issue from a 2015 perspective and don't realize how many times Israel has had to capitulate and Arafat, etc... has turned down the offer.
Your history on this particular matter is ZERO and I'm NOT being sarcastic.

Dude, you can keep on asking but contrary to your misconceptions, you are not the boss of me and your own bias is quite obvious.

Keep waiting. Maybe someday, if you ask rather than demand, I might pay attention.

I will presume your knowledge base is Jew Hating sites.
At least be honest and state such.

Your "jooooooo hate" diatribe is shallow and old. Let's talk about "honesty" - I source my arguments so you can see what sites I use, which Jew hating sites do I use?

I am well of your sources; they are anti-Israel sound bites with zero modern or contemporary historical context.

 

[Indeependent]

Palestine was British territory before Irgun scum started biting the hand that saved and fed them. Imperial forces marched on the Nazis, freed the Jews and saved them from leaky ships they took to what is now called Israel. How were we thanked? Kidnappings, terrorism and, ultimately, the King David Hotel bombing. We didn't hang enough of the ungrateful bastards.

There is one solution to the problem of Hamas (and the Palestinans who elected them) >>

100% EXTERMINATION.

Wow. Well...that's one Pro-Israeli's position. You read Mein Kampf lately?

I've read it; Hitler was a doomed psycho loser from youth as his alcoholic father used to beat Adolf and mom to a bloody pulp on a nightly basic.

I heard he was a failed artist and that sent him off the rails.

A failed artist whose SOLE patrons were JEWS (Mein Kampf).
He hated them for patronizing him (Mein Kampf).
He WAS a horrible artist (MY insert).

 

[Lipush]

As response to the video and deciet...

"Are you trying to tell me that I as a Palestinian do not exist"?

No, what he says is that your definition of Palestinian does not. In my grandmother's ID, the one from the previous century, it said "Born in Palestine" (Just like Sharon, thank you for making my point for me) which made her a Palestinian by any means. Expect that it didn't, it made her a Jewish civilian in a territory ruled over by the British, territory known as "Probinica Palestina". By that definition, both Arabs and Jews are originally Palestinians, and not by the washed definition of today, in which Palestinian, 'native Palestinians', are just Arabs. Today's Palestinians are a made up nation, 99% of them.

"The greeks called it Palestine"....

Yes, they did. And why did they do that, exactly? They named this area "Palestine" based on another ethnic group, the Philistines, who were originally just redhead sailors from Europe, and chose to camp in the Holy Land. Newsflash, Today Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are not red-head and NOT European. Just some are sailors. Palestinians are NOT Philistines and have nothing to do with that extinct nation. The Greeks could have called it "Probinica India," would it have painted us all dots on our foreheads.?

 

[Billo_Really]

I've read it; Hitler was a doomed psycho loser from youth as his alcoholic father used to beat Adolf and mom to a bloody pulp on a nightly basic.

But he was the most monogamous among the big 4 leaders of Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin and Eisenhower.

 

[Lipush]

It may be propaganda, but it's doesn't mean it aint true. I believe the best propaganda is actual truth. You responded to the narrator instead of the content. Care to re-think that>

Propaganda contains seeds of truth, but it's distorted. The call to rename the "Occupied Territories" is a political push, not a legal one because the law doesn't support it.

Then the law should change according to reality, since reality is just like it, REAL, and it's not to be changed to the law's definitions.

 

[Grau]

First of all there's a difference between agreeing that Israel has the right to exist & supporting the string of treacherous, back-stabbing, genocidal & expansionist, Right Wing Zionist Regimes that have as their foundation Foreign Zionist Terrorist Gangs whose genocidal "Final Solution" was named "Plan Dalet".

I agree that Israel has a right to peacefully exist within clear, lawful & established borders.

When it comes to tangible "Support", aka Loyalty, one "can serve one Master" / Country only. If you have time or resources to contribute like volunteering to work at a Veteran's Hospital, helping to feed America's hungry & house America's homeless or sacrifice life & limb in America's military, your contributions belong in the country in which you reside....period. You cannot be loyal to 2 spouses or 2 countries.

Try telling your wife and your mistress that you "love them just as much" as the other & see where it gets you.

Unfortunately, America is unique in that it tolerates so much Zionist treason masked as "support for Israel".
No other country has as many "Dual" Citizens (Israeli - American) in such highly placed Government Policy making positions.

Additionally, Israeli governments have not been among our genuine "Allies".

As early as the Lavon Affair, Israeli governments have bombed American bases & killed Americans in "False Flag" attacks.

In reality, Israelis danced, not "cried" right after 9/11 just as Netanyahu said 9/11 was "Good for Israel"

“The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9-11”
indymedia beirut | The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9-11 |

No other country's government is so infested with Zionist lobbies & traitors as to have the power to send America's sons & daughters to to die for Israel's "security" as America:

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03

Please consider contributing some time as a Volunteer in one of our V.A. Hospitals to see the REAL costs of "making Israel secure".

The greatest threat to Israel is not the Islamic world or "anti Semites" etc but the criminal, Expansionist & provocative Policies of its myopic, Right Wing Zionist Governments.

It is precisely those ruthless & genocidal policies that has made Israel one of the very least popular countries in the world:

“BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations” BBC poll: Israel among world's least popular nations - World

So, if you REALLY want to "support Israel", you should oppose its policy makers that have earned it the growing anger, resentment & Resistance it has so justifiably incurred.

The U.S. should not continue to aid & abet the suicidal & criminal atrocities that has earned Israel the increasing enmity that will prove to cause Israel's inevitable demise.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why doesn't the civilized world follow that logic? because the civilized world is not the Middle East. In here, the more "humanity" and "charity" you show, the more they see it as weakness and attack you. Welcome to our neighborhood.

Pfft. That's a convenient excuse for Israel to hold and expand on land it never had any intention of giving back from the beginning. Be honest and call it what it is - theft. Don't pretend there is anything more noble than that.

Egypt lost the area in War...............As did Syria in the Golan heights.................They lost and lost territory in the War's by their design..........................Virtually every map on earth's boundaries were drawn in blood from Wars.............

Under the same deal.............why shouldn't we give back the West to Mexico.............We took it by force..................Who's demanding we give that back...............since Mexifornia is full of dumb ass liberals perhaps they should volunteer to give it back to Mexico............and show us the Might doesn't equal right.

 

[Billo_Really]

Egypt lost the area in War...............As did Syria in the Golan heights.................They lost and lost territory in the War's by their design..........................Virtually every map on earth's boundaries were drawn in blood from Wars.............

Under the same deal.............why shouldn't we give back the West to Mexico.............We took it by force..................Who's demanding we give that back...............since Mexifornia is full of dumb ass liberals perhaps they should volunteer to give it back to Mexico............and show us the Might doesn't equal right.

Conquer by Conquest has been outlawed since the end of WWII.

How many times do you have to be told this, you ******* dolt?

 

[eagle1462010]

Ottoman had the land.............the British, French and Austrailians took the area by force..........

Oh shit the West stole the land in WWI...............

Here's how they won the flank.