Solutions for America - Congress

[P@triot]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

 

[Moonglow]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

 

[Timmy]

Why cap Salary at $65k ? Only wealthy people would run.

 

[P@triot]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

When people say that moon, it means the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity).

 

[P@triot]

Why cap Salary at $65k ? Only wealthy people would run.

What?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

We are currently functioning under Constitutional government – nothing to ‘return to.’

“Cap the job at $65,000” is a ‘solution’ in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.

We have term limits – they’re called elections, reflecting the will of the people, who may elect anyone they wish for as long as they wish.

Once again we see the ignorance and stupidity common to most libertarians and TPM nitwits.

 

[P@triot]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

We are currently functioning under Constitutional government – nothing to ‘return to.’

“Cap the job at $65,000” is a ‘solution’ in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.

We have term limits – they’re called elections, reflecting the will of the people, who may elect anyone they wish for as long as they wish.

Once again we see the ignorance and stupidity common to most libertarians and TPM nitwits.

We haven't functioned under Constitutional government in over 100 years and you know it. Your disengenous claims otherwise is as absurd as your ideology. If you're going to lie about something CCJ, it needs to be something that we don't know you know.

Capping the job at $65,000 will rid Congress of the con-artists who are not looking to serve but rather are looking out for themselves. Of course, you fear this measure because you desperately need those con-artists to push the anti-constitutional agenda that you desire. I understand your fear on this one and can appreciate your healthy fear of it.

If "elections" are "term limits" making term limits unnecessary, why is there a term limit for President of the United States, junior?

 

[P@triot]

Leave it to CCJ to always whine about Congress and their approval rating and then turn around and proclaim that there is no problems and nothing needs to be changed.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why cap Salary at $65k ? Only wealthy people would run.

What?

Only the wealthy could afford to serve in Congress at the ridiculous ‘salary’ you propose.

Libertarians/TPM nitwits are indeed nitwits.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

When people say that moon, it means the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity).

I guess you don't realize that we didn't have a Constitution in 1776. I think you need to go back to school and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[P@triot]

Why cap Salary at $65k ? Only wealthy people would run.

What?

Only the wealthy could afford to serve in Congress at the ridiculous ‘salary’ you propose.

Libertarians/TPM nitwits are indeed nitwits.

The national average wage index for 2014 was $46,000 per year. The proposed salary is more than 35% above the national average. The fact that you have to resort to insults and personal attacks says it all. The fact that you are completely uninformed about national wages and basic math says even more.

 

[P@triot]

Why cap Salary at $65k ? Only wealthy people would run.

What?

Only the wealthy could afford to serve in Congress at the ridiculous ‘salary’ you propose.

Libertarians/TPM nitwits are indeed nitwits.

Still waiting for why we have a term limit on presidents when - according to you - we already have that, they are called "elections".

 

[P@triot]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

When people say that moon, it means the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity).

I guess you don't realize that we didn't have a Constitution in 1776. I think you need to go back to school and stop embarrassing yourself.

I've forgotten more about the U.S. Constitution than you have ever learned. I will repeat again for the learning impaired - this is a common phrase meaning the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity). I'm well aware of the fact that it was signed in 1787 and ratified 1788.

The fact that you have to play word games indicates a deep fear of Constitutional government. One has to ask why? You don't like being prevented from imposing your will on others? Your lust for power and control too strong for you to control?

 

[Moonglow]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

When people say that moon, it means the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity).

There was corruption, but you believe what you want..

 

[Timmy]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

We are currently functioning under Constitutional government – nothing to ‘return to.’

“Cap the job at $65,000” is a ‘solution’ in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.

We have term limits – they’re called elections, reflecting the will of the people, who may elect anyone they wish for as long as they wish.

Once again we see the ignorance and stupidity common to most libertarians and TPM nitwits.

We haven't functioned under Constitutional government in over 100 years and you know it. Your disengenous claims otherwise is as absurd as your ideology. If you're going to lie about something CCJ, it needs to be something that we don't know you know.

Capping the job at $65,000 will rid Congress of the con-artists who are not looking to serve but rather are looking out for themselves. Of course, you fear this measure because you desperately need those con-artists to push the anti-constitutional agenda that you desire. I understand your fear on this one and can appreciate your healthy fear of it.

If "elections" are "term limits" making term limits unnecessary, why is there a term limit for President of the United States, junior?

Dude , people don't run for congress because of the salary .
Dropping it down wouldnt fix any issue we have now , it makes things worse .

Plus , think of the extra expense to fly around from home to dc all the time .

 

[P@triot]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

We are currently functioning under Constitutional government – nothing to ‘return to.’

“Cap the job at $65,000” is a ‘solution’ in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.

We have term limits – they’re called elections, reflecting the will of the people, who may elect anyone they wish for as long as they wish.

Once again we see the ignorance and stupidity common to most libertarians and TPM nitwits.

We haven't functioned under Constitutional government in over 100 years and you know it. Your disengenous claims otherwise is as absurd as your ideology. If you're going to lie about something CCJ, it needs to be something that we don't know you know.

Capping the job at $65,000 will rid Congress of the con-artists who are not looking to serve but rather are looking out for themselves. Of course, you fear this measure because you desperately need those con-artists to push the anti-constitutional agenda that you desire. I understand your fear on this one and can appreciate your healthy fear of it.

If "elections" are "term limits" making term limits unnecessary, why is there a term limit for President of the United States, junior?

Dude , people don't run for congress because of the salary .
Dropping it down wouldnt fix any issue we have now , it makes things worse .

Plus , think of the extra expense to fly around from home to dc all the time .

Dude...if you really believe that...I have a ton of land in Florida I would like to sell you. I'll give you one hell of a price on it.

The majority of the people running for Congress these days are nothing more than con-artists in it for the wealth and the power. Current salary is almost $175,000 and that doesn't include the benefits (like the cadillac pension).

The position should be a burden that people consider a civic duty. It should be akin to jury duty. Can you imagine what would happen if we appointed people to jury duty and paid them nearly $200,000 per year (plus outrageous benefits)? Do you have any idea how corrupt our juries would be as people interested in power and money came out of the wood work to become career jurors?

It's funny because nobody whines about "lobbyists" and how politicians are in their pockets more than the left. Yet when ever anything is proposed that would prevent that, the left mocks it. Why? Because nobody benefits more from lobbyists and corruption than the left. If we limited every Congressman to two years (or at most, two terms of two years), they would have no reason to get in bed with the lobbyists. The only people who need to do that are career politicians who are looking at decades of favors and campaign financing.

 

[P@triot]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

When people say that moon, it means the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity).

There was corruption, but you believe what you want..

Really? Care to provide just one solid example? Nothing like "a staffer was accused of taking a quill pen". Something substantial which was proven or at least well documented?

 

[Moonglow]

In 1776, no one was running for President...or Congress..

When people say that moon, it means the spirit of 1776 (i.e. Constitutional government, sans corruption, by people integrity).

There was corruption, but you believe what you want..

Really? Care to provide just one solid example? Nothing like "a staffer was accused of taking a quill pen". Something substantial which was proven or at least well documented?

Silas Deane was a Yale-educated lawyer and merchant who worked as a commercial agent for America’s second richest man, Robert Morris-“the financier of the revolution”-who while being one of George Washington’s best friends, famously used his position in the Continental Congress to steer war contracts to companies he secretly owned.
Our Founding War Profiteers

 

[Timmy]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

We are currently functioning under Constitutional government – nothing to ‘return to.’

“Cap the job at $65,000” is a ‘solution’ in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.

We have term limits – they’re called elections, reflecting the will of the people, who may elect anyone they wish for as long as they wish.

Once again we see the ignorance and stupidity common to most libertarians and TPM nitwits.

We haven't functioned under Constitutional government in over 100 years and you know it. Your disengenous claims otherwise is as absurd as your ideology. If you're going to lie about something CCJ, it needs to be something that we don't know you know.

Capping the job at $65,000 will rid Congress of the con-artists who are not looking to serve but rather are looking out for themselves. Of course, you fear this measure because you desperately need those con-artists to push the anti-constitutional agenda that you desire. I understand your fear on this one and can appreciate your healthy fear of it.

If "elections" are "term limits" making term limits unnecessary, why is there a term limit for President of the United States, junior?

Dude , people don't run for congress because of the salary .
Dropping it down wouldnt fix any issue we have now , it makes things worse .

Plus , think of the extra expense to fly around from home to dc all the time .

Dude...if you really believe that...I have a ton of land in Florida I would like to sell you. I'll give you one hell of a price on it.

The majority of the people running for Congress these days are nothing more than con-artists in it for the wealth and the power. Current salary is almost $175,000 and that doesn't include the benefits (like the cadillac pension).

The position should be a burden that people consider a civic duty. It should be akin to jury duty. Can you imagine what would happen if we appointed people to jury duty and paid them nearly $200,000 per year (plus outrageous benefits)? Do you have any idea how corrupt our juries would be as people interested in power and money came out of the wood work to become career jurors?

It's funny because nobody whines about "lobbyists" and how politicians are in their pockets more than the left. Yet when ever anything is proposed that would prevent that, the left mocks it. Why? Because nobody benefits more from lobbyists and corruption than the left. If we limited every Congressman to two years (or at most, two terms of two years), they would have no reason to get in bed with the lobbyists. The only people who need to do that are career politicians who are looking at decades of favors and campaign financing.

If u paid jurors $200k, you'd have much better jurors!


What good candidate is gonna leave his good paying stable job for a shitty paying temporary job?

 

[P@triot]

So 60 Minutes just finished airing a story on the mess that is Congress. Primarily, the story focused on how so many of them are forced to spend far too much fund raising for the RNC and DNC instead of representing their constituents.

Why is there such an emphasis on fund raising? That wasn't an issue in 1776. So what has changed?

Well sadly, as Congress has consolidated more power for themselves, and voted themselves more and more raises, the job has become highly sought by those desperate for money and power (Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc.). In 1776, the job came with neither power nor money. And so it was viewed as a civic duty burden. And that is the solution to our problems today. We need to return to the days where holding public office is a burden. Three simple steps:

• Return to Constituitonal government (job no longer wields unfettered power)
• Cap the job at $65,000 per year (job no longer creates all of this wealth)
• Implement term limits (no longer need to worry about getting re-elected)

These very simple reforms will solve all of our problems with Congress. We'll see more people of integrity holding office as the slime balls move on to more lucrative scams and we'll see those in office doing the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient things due to the need to get re-elected.

We are currently functioning under Constitutional government – nothing to ‘return to.’

“Cap the job at $65,000” is a ‘solution’ in search of a problem that doesn’t exist.

We have term limits – they’re called elections, reflecting the will of the people, who may elect anyone they wish for as long as they wish.

Once again we see the ignorance and stupidity common to most libertarians and TPM nitwits.

We haven't functioned under Constitutional government in over 100 years and you know it. Your disengenous claims otherwise is as absurd as your ideology. If you're going to lie about something CCJ, it needs to be something that we don't know you know.

Capping the job at $65,000 will rid Congress of the con-artists who are not looking to serve but rather are looking out for themselves. Of course, you fear this measure because you desperately need those con-artists to push the anti-constitutional agenda that you desire. I understand your fear on this one and can appreciate your healthy fear of it.

If "elections" are "term limits" making term limits unnecessary, why is there a term limit for President of the United States, junior?

Dude , people don't run for congress because of the salary .
Dropping it down wouldnt fix any issue we have now , it makes things worse .

Plus , think of the extra expense to fly around from home to dc all the time .

Dude...if you really believe that...I have a ton of land in Florida I would like to sell you. I'll give you one hell of a price on it.

The majority of the people running for Congress these days are nothing more than con-artists in it for the wealth and the power. Current salary is almost $175,000 and that doesn't include the benefits (like the cadillac pension).

The position should be a burden that people consider a civic duty. It should be akin to jury duty. Can you imagine what would happen if we appointed people to jury duty and paid them nearly $200,000 per year (plus outrageous benefits)? Do you have any idea how corrupt our juries would be as people interested in power and money came out of the wood work to become career jurors?

It's funny because nobody whines about "lobbyists" and how politicians are in their pockets more than the left. Yet when ever anything is proposed that would prevent that, the left mocks it. Why? Because nobody benefits more from lobbyists and corruption than the left. If we limited every Congressman to two years (or at most, two terms of two years), they would have no reason to get in bed with the lobbyists. The only people who need to do that are career politicians who are looking at decades of favors and campaign financing.

If u paid jurors $200k, you'd have much better jurors!


What good candidate is gonna leave his good paying stable job for a shitty paying temporary job?

People who genuinely want to serve the interests of the United States and protect the Constitution. The real question is, what dirt-bag con-artist will endure the headaches for a temporary job paying $65k per year (answer: nobody).