So why does a woman have a "choice" to kill but I won't have a choice regarding a mask?

wearing a mask is to protect the people around you & they wear a mask to protect you.

a mask is 75% effective, so if everyone assumed they are contagious & wears a mask, the number of cases will go down dramatically.


Who protects the unborn baby?
And you're not aborting 9 month fetuses and even newborns who do feel pain.
USA Today “Factcheck” Falsely Claims Abortions Aren’t ...
...abortion legal up to birth - Bing

10 States Now Allow Killing Babies Up to Birth in ...
...abortion legal up to birth - Bing

"In January 2019, Governor Ralph Northam and Democratic Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran introduced HB2491, known as The Repeal Act, which would repeal restrictions on third trimester abortions all the way up to 40 weeks. This includes killing the child during or after delivery. "

Such an insidious lie. Infanticide has been a federal crime since 2002


But that what the Banana Republican will be famous for.

HB2491: Abortion; eliminate certain requirements.
hb2491 - Bing

Good thing we have good people fighting this kind of evil.

Fighting the evils of lying about what people have said?

You know who Christians think the Father of all lies is right?


Dodging Sniper Fire Hillary the Hag?

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Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

I asked Mother Nature about all the fertilized eggs that never attach to the uterus wall or develop into babies, She said "Hey Life's a Crap Shoot, Ya role the dice and you take your chances."
Comparing something natural to something based on laziness when there are precautions for most is not a comparison. One million abortions a year is a disgrace. The good of society must also be considered. And we are off track by a mile.
 
Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

the bible also has sanctioned abortion... but christiany christians don't like to bring that up - that is if they are even familiar with the passage.
I don't understand why dummies like you just don't check the Internet before spouting some falsehood, proving not only your laziness but definitely ignorance. It is so easy to do!

YOU are just so ignorant which is not only obvious by your support of killing 20 million humans over the last 30+ years... but your ignorance of the Bible and the passage YOU alluded to is so wrong!
FACTS not guesses!
This is a common rationalization of those who seek some biblical justification for the practice of abortion. It is a theory without merit. The passage in the book of Exodus reads as follows.
“And if men strive together, and hurt a pregnant woman, so that her fruit [children] come out, and yet no harm follows; the one who hit her shall surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall impose upon him; and he shall pay a fine as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth” (Exodus 21:22-23).
The argument runs something like this. If two men are fighting, and the struggle injures a pregnant woman (who perhaps intervenes in an attempt to stop the dispute), so that she miscarries, a monetary fine may be imposed to compensate for the death of the fetus. This infraction, however, was not viewed as a capital case. It is then contended that the implication must be that the fetus was not a human being with rights comparable to an adult person.
 
So I just heard Dr. Fauci recommend a national law that we all should wear masks because it would save thousands of lives....hmmm...
So I don't have a choice it appears.
National law forcing me to wear a mask.
OK... the reporters lament that if WE all wore masks according to a national law we could save 200,000 lives!
Hmmm... Choice.
I won't a choice of wearing a mask or not.
If I don't wear a mask I'm breaking a law.
SO folks... in the USA so far in 2020, 702,510 lives were taken because of choice.
I don't think there is need... 230,000 deaths, 90% or more people over age 65
VS 702,511 in one year potential presidents, inventors, future tax payers, musicians, etc. DEAD.
www.numberofabortions.com

I would like to have a choice!

Great point. Democrats are all for killing babies. If babies survive Democrat death camps then they turn them into transgenders in school. If they survive that, Democrats are now making pedophelia legal.


 
Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

the bible also has sanctioned abortion... but christiany christians don't like to bring that up - that is if they are even familiar with the passage.
I don't understand why dummies like you just don't check the Internet before spouting some falsehood, proving not only your laziness but definitely ignorance. It is so easy to do!

YOU are just so ignorant which is not only obvious by your support of killing 20 million humans over the last 30+ years... but your ignorance of the Bible and the passage YOU alluded to is so wrong!
FACTS not guesses!
This is a common rationalization of those who seek some biblical justification for the practice of abortion. It is a theory without merit. The passage in the book of Exodus reads as follows.
“And if men strive together, and hurt a pregnant woman, so that her fruit [children] come out, and yet no harm follows; the one who hit her shall surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall impose upon him; and he shall pay a fine as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth” (Exodus 21:22-23).
The argument runs something like this. If two men are fighting, and the struggle injures a pregnant woman (who perhaps intervenes in an attempt to stop the dispute), so that she miscarries, a monetary fine may be imposed to compensate for the death of the fetus. This infraction, however, was not viewed as a capital case. It is then contended that the implication must be that the fetus was not a human being with rights comparable to an adult person.

how nice. but i wasn't referring to that passage at all. wanna try again?

Numbers 5:11-31


The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.


16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.


29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

where do you think ' getting the curse ' means in relation to women?

uh-huh. it's a biblical reference & that 'curse' means to bleed - what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?

i also love how 'christians' use the biblical passages of sodom & gomorrah when spewing how homosexuality is a 'sin' ... but CONveniently leave out the rest of the story where Lot has sex with his daughters.

hmmmm.... picky choosey choosey picky.
 
So I just heard Dr. Fauci recommend a national law that we all should wear masks because it would save thousands of lives....hmmm...
So I don't have a choice it appears.
National law forcing me to wear a mask.
OK... the reporters lament that if WE all wore masks according to a national law we could save 200,000 lives!
Hmmm... Choice.
I won't a choice of wearing a mask or not.
If I don't wear a mask I'm breaking a law.
SO folks... in the USA so far in 2020, 702,510 lives were taken because of choice.
I don't think there is need... 230,000 deaths, 90% or more people over age 65
VS 702,511 in one year potential presidents, inventors, future tax payers, musicians, etc. DEAD.
www.numberofabortions.com

I would like to have a choice!

You could ask why do we have a military? Naturally you would say to protect American citizens from foreign Armies invading our nation. So if we are so patriotic wanting to protect other American's from invasion why can't you be patriotic by protecting American's by wearing a mask from a virus that invaded us from a foreign nation? Just doesn't make sense with your side saying you're patriotic when in fact you're not.

Left abortion out on purpose it simply has nothing to do with mask wearing and being patriotic period.
 
So I just heard Dr. Fauci recommend a national law that we all should wear masks because it would save thousands of lives....hmmm...
So I don't have a choice it appears.
National law forcing me to wear a mask.
OK... the reporters lament that if WE all wore masks according to a national law we could save 200,000 lives!
Hmmm... Choice.
I won't a choice of wearing a mask or not.
If I don't wear a mask I'm breaking a law.
SO folks... in the USA so far in 2020, 702,510 lives were taken because of choice.
I don't think there is need... 230,000 deaths, 90% or more people over age 65
VS 702,511 in one year potential presidents, inventors, future tax payers, musicians, etc. DEAD.
www.numberofabortions.com

I would like to have a choice!

You could ask why do we have a military? Naturally you would say to protect American citizens from foreign Armies invading our nation. So if we are so patriotic wanting to protect other American's from invasion why can't you be patriotic by protecting American's by wearing a mask from a virus that invaded us from a foreign nation? Just doesn't make sense with your side saying you're patriotic when in fact you're not.

Left abortion out on purpose it simply has nothing to do with mask wearing and being patriotic period.
When you allow over 700,000 future Americans to be murdered, that is definitely NOT patriotic!
 
So I just heard Dr. Fauci recommend a national law that we all should wear masks because it would save thousands of lives....hmmm...
So I don't have a choice it appears.
National law forcing me to wear a mask.
OK... the reporters lament that if WE all wore masks according to a national law we could save 200,000 lives!
Hmmm... Choice.
I won't a choice of wearing a mask or not.
If I don't wear a mask I'm breaking a law.
SO folks... in the USA so far in 2020, 702,510 lives were taken because of choice.
I don't think there is need... 230,000 deaths, 90% or more people over age 65
VS 702,511 in one year potential presidents, inventors, future tax payers, musicians, etc. DEAD.
www.numberofabortions.com

I would like to have a choice!

You could ask why do we have a military? Naturally you would say to protect American citizens from foreign Armies invading our nation. So if we are so patriotic wanting to protect other American's from invasion why can't you be patriotic by protecting American's by wearing a mask from a virus that invaded us from a foreign nation? Just doesn't make sense with your side saying you're patriotic when in fact you're not.

Left abortion out on purpose it simply has nothing to do with mask wearing and being patriotic period.
When you allow over 700,000 future Americans to be murdered, that is definitely NOT patriotic!

Key word is future. Maybe possible maybe not. One GD thing for sure is that virus is here.
 
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Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

the bible also has sanctioned abortion... but christiany christians don't like to bring that up - that is if they are even familiar with the passage.
I don't understand why dummies like you just don't check the Internet before spouting some falsehood, proving not only your laziness but definitely ignorance. It is so easy to do!

YOU are just so ignorant which is not only obvious by your support of killing 20 million humans over the last 30+ years... but your ignorance of the Bible and the passage YOU alluded to is so wrong!
FACTS not guesses!
This is a common rationalization of those who seek some biblical justification for the practice of abortion. It is a theory without merit. The passage in the book of Exodus reads as follows.
“And if men strive together, and hurt a pregnant woman, so that her fruit [children] come out, and yet no harm follows; the one who hit her shall surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall impose upon him; and he shall pay a fine as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth” (Exodus 21:22-23).
The argument runs something like this. If two men are fighting, and the struggle injures a pregnant woman (who perhaps intervenes in an attempt to stop the dispute), so that she miscarries, a monetary fine may be imposed to compensate for the death of the fetus. This infraction, however, was not viewed as a capital case. It is then contended that the implication must be that the fetus was not a human being with rights comparable to an adult person.

how nice. but i wasn't referring to that passage at all. wanna try again?

Numbers 5:11-31


The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.


16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.


29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

where do you think ' getting the curse ' means in relation to women?

uh-huh. it's a biblical reference & that 'curse' means to bleed - what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?

i also love how 'christians' use the biblical passages of sodom & gomorrah when spewing how homosexuality is a 'sin' ... but CONveniently leave out the rest of the story where Lot has sex with his daughters.

hmmmm.... picky choosey choosey picky.

Just for the record, you do know that this scripture is from the Old Testament, the 'Old Law', and that the New Testament is about Jesus' coming and a 'New Law' with him. For example, in the Old Testament people had to sacrifice animals for atonement of their sins. That changed because Jesus came as THE sacrifice. Another example is how Jesus came upon a woman who had committed adultery and was about to be stoned to death as the Old Testament / Old Law called for. They asked Jesus about this. He responded by saying, 'Let those without sin cast the 1st stone' - they all dropped the stones and went away.
 
Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

the bible also has sanctioned abortion... but christiany christians don't like to bring that up - that is if they are even familiar with the passage.
I don't understand why dummies like you just don't check the Internet before spouting some falsehood, proving not only your laziness but definitely ignorance. It is so easy to do!

YOU are just so ignorant which is not only obvious by your support of killing 20 million humans over the last 30+ years... but your ignorance of the Bible and the passage YOU alluded to is so wrong!
FACTS not guesses!
This is a common rationalization of those who seek some biblical justification for the practice of abortion. It is a theory without merit. The passage in the book of Exodus reads as follows.
“And if men strive together, and hurt a pregnant woman, so that her fruit [children] come out, and yet no harm follows; the one who hit her shall surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall impose upon him; and he shall pay a fine as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth” (Exodus 21:22-23).
The argument runs something like this. If two men are fighting, and the struggle injures a pregnant woman (who perhaps intervenes in an attempt to stop the dispute), so that she miscarries, a monetary fine may be imposed to compensate for the death of the fetus. This infraction, however, was not viewed as a capital case. It is then contended that the implication must be that the fetus was not a human being with rights comparable to an adult person.

how nice. but i wasn't referring to that passage at all. wanna try again?

Numbers 5:11-31


The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.


16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.


29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

where do you think ' getting the curse ' means in relation to women?

uh-huh. it's a biblical reference & that 'curse' means to bleed - what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?

i also love how 'christians' use the biblical passages of sodom & gomorrah when spewing how homosexuality is a 'sin' ... but CONveniently leave out the rest of the story where Lot has sex with his daughters.

hmmmm.... picky choosey choosey picky.

Just for the record, you do know that this scripture is from the Old Testament, the 'Old Law', and that the New Testament is about Jesus' coming and a 'New Law' with him. For example, in the Old Testament people had to sacrifice animals for atonement of their sins. That changed because Jesus came as THE sacrifice. Another example is how Jesus came upon a woman who had committed adultery and was about to be stoned to death as the Old Testament / Old Law called for. They asked Jesus about this. He responded by saying, 'Let those without sin cast the 1st stone' - they all dropped the stones and went away.

uh - EXODUS is also the OT which the OP tried to use as a retort. there are plenty of hard core fundies who take the OT AND the new testament as literal.

fail.

oh & jesus also said ' render onto caesar ' ...
 
oh & jesus also said ' render onto caesar ' ...

I totally agree with you on this one. Jesus did not come to change /rule this world.

The Bible says God knows every child before they are placed in their mother's womb.
Jesus said, 'Bring unto me the little children'.
IMO / faith / belief God does not approve of the murdering of children.
I believe a woman should have the right to choose.
God has given us free will and the ability to choose for a reason.
I am completely against Post-Birth Abortions for reasons I have already mentioned.
 
Didnt Obama say he was going to get us out of the Bush wars, and then he started 5 additional wars?
 
Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

the bible also has sanctioned abortion... but christiany christians don't like to bring that up - that is if they are even familiar with the passage.
I don't understand why dummies like you just don't check the Internet before spouting some falsehood, proving not only your laziness but definitely ignorance. It is so easy to do!

YOU are just so ignorant which is not only obvious by your support of killing 20 million humans over the last 30+ years... but your ignorance of the Bible and the passage YOU alluded to is so wrong!
FACTS not guesses!
This is a common rationalization of those who seek some biblical justification for the practice of abortion. It is a theory without merit. The passage in the book of Exodus reads as follows.
“And if men strive together, and hurt a pregnant woman, so that her fruit [children] come out, and yet no harm follows; the one who hit her shall surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall impose upon him; and he shall pay a fine as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth” (Exodus 21:22-23).
The argument runs something like this. If two men are fighting, and the struggle injures a pregnant woman (who perhaps intervenes in an attempt to stop the dispute), so that she miscarries, a monetary fine may be imposed to compensate for the death of the fetus. This infraction, however, was not viewed as a capital case. It is then contended that the implication must be that the fetus was not a human being with rights comparable to an adult person.

how nice. but i wasn't referring to that passage at all. wanna try again?

Numbers 5:11-31


The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.


16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.


29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

where do you think ' getting the curse ' means in relation to women?

uh-huh. it's a biblical reference & that 'curse' means to bleed - what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?

i also love how 'christians' use the biblical passages of sodom & gomorrah when spewing how homosexuality is a 'sin' ... but CONveniently leave out the rest of the story where Lot has sex with his daughters.

hmmmm.... picky choosey choosey picky.

you base the entire concept that Jewish people approve abortion. NOT Christians. There were no Christians during the Old Testament which I guess you don't seem to comprehend.

Now you wrote...... "what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?" ohh... scary!!!! means abortion!
So I'll just check the Internet...
Vaginal bleeding during pregnancy can be scary. However, it isn't always a sign of trouble.
Bleeding in the first trimester (weeks one through 12) might occur, and most women who experience bleeding during pregnancy go on to deliver healthy babies.

Please refute that "bleeding does not mean an abortion".
 
wearing a mask is to protect the people around you & they wear a mask to protect you.

a mask is 75% effective, so if everyone assumed they are contagious & wears a mask, the number of cases will go down dramatically.

That's not even true. Everyone is wearing masks and yet surges are happening in different places. No, what's happening is that the masks are one just avenue, fear, of many, that the media are pumping. The end result and goal
is total control and domination over the populace by the elites and globalists.
 
wearing a mask is to protect the people around you & they wear a mask to protect you.

a mask is 75% effective, so if everyone assumed they are contagious & wears a mask, the number of cases will go down dramatically.

That's not even true. Everyone is wearing masks and yet surges are happening in different places. No, what's happening is that the masks are one just avenue, fear, of many, that the media are pumping. The end result and goal
is total control and domination over the populace by the elites and globalists.
You are absolutely RIGHT.
Everyday since 2/7/20 I've been logging numbers from this web site:Coronavirus Update (Live): 44,212,832 Cases and 1,171,015 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Here is a snapshot of the last few days of October. NOTE the information in red IS NOT reported by the MSM!
Average of new cases has decline. In MSM? NOPE
% of cases not hospitalized 99.82% In MSM? NOPE!
% of cases survived 97.407% In MSM? NOPE!
133,247,485 tested. IN MSM? NOPE!
Political. Remember the MSM donated 96% of their donations to Hillary in 2016 so they were pissed they blew their donations!
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oh & jesus also said ' render onto caesar ' ...

I totally agree with you on this one. Jesus did not come to change /rule this world.

The Bible says God knows every child before they are placed in their mother's womb.
Jesus said, 'Bring unto me the little children'.
IMO / faith / belief God does not approve of the murdering of children.
I believe a woman should have the right to choose.
God has given us free will and the ability to choose for a reason.
I am completely against Post-Birth Abortions for reasons I have already mentioned.

uh - there is no such thing as 'post birth abortion' that is murder & is already against the law.
 
Good point. Is the baby in the womb a person? If so don't they have a right to a choice to live? Pretty simple. If you are alive you have a choice.

The Bible says God knows the name of every child before it is placed / develops in the mother's womb....

If an illegal immigrant mother takes one step across our border and delivers a child that child has EVERY Constitutional and legal right this country has to offer....but liberals declare if a baby is alive after an unsuccessful attempt to murder / abort it the mother has every right to finish murdering the baby, that the living, breathing American citizen on that table fighting for its survival has no rights or protections....

....just a couple of things to think about....

the bible also has sanctioned abortion... but christiany christians don't like to bring that up - that is if they are even familiar with the passage.
I don't understand why dummies like you just don't check the Internet before spouting some falsehood, proving not only your laziness but definitely ignorance. It is so easy to do!

YOU are just so ignorant which is not only obvious by your support of killing 20 million humans over the last 30+ years... but your ignorance of the Bible and the passage YOU alluded to is so wrong!
FACTS not guesses!
This is a common rationalization of those who seek some biblical justification for the practice of abortion. It is a theory without merit. The passage in the book of Exodus reads as follows.
“And if men strive together, and hurt a pregnant woman, so that her fruit [children] come out, and yet no harm follows; the one who hit her shall surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall impose upon him; and he shall pay a fine as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth” (Exodus 21:22-23).
The argument runs something like this. If two men are fighting, and the struggle injures a pregnant woman (who perhaps intervenes in an attempt to stop the dispute), so that she miscarries, a monetary fine may be imposed to compensate for the death of the fetus. This infraction, however, was not viewed as a capital case. It is then contended that the implication must be that the fetus was not a human being with rights comparable to an adult person.

how nice. but i wasn't referring to that passage at all. wanna try again?

Numbers 5:11-31


The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.


16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”


23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.


29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

where do you think ' getting the curse ' means in relation to women?

uh-huh. it's a biblical reference & that 'curse' means to bleed - what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?

i also love how 'christians' use the biblical passages of sodom & gomorrah when spewing how homosexuality is a 'sin' ... but CONveniently leave out the rest of the story where Lot has sex with his daughters.

hmmmm.... picky choosey choosey picky.

you base the entire concept that Jewish people approve abortion. NOT Christians. There were no Christians during the Old Testament which I guess you don't seem to comprehend.

Now you wrote...... "what happens when a pregnant woman bleeds?" ohh... scary!!!! means abortion!
So I'll just check the Internet...
Vaginal bleeding during pregnancy can be scary. However, it isn't always a sign of trouble.
Bleeding in the first trimester (weeks one through 12) might occur, and most women who experience bleeding during pregnancy go on to deliver healthy babies.

Please refute that "bleeding does not mean an abortion".

there are fundie christians that believe in the OT - it matters not that there were no 'christians' at that time. the fact that they use the bible to further their agenda is what matters.

guess what? other than spilling their knuckle children on the ground, the bible has nothing to say about birth control - but die hards try to resrist or ban contraception based on religious dogma.

the numbers passage was about a forced abortion & was biblically sanctioned, no matter how much you protest that it wasn't.
 

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