SCOTUS allows Trump to finish dismantling the Department of Education

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Unions gave a total of about $39MM in total, $53,000 to Republicans, the rest went to democrats, Liberals and other groups who want to destroy the American educational system

Tell me that works for you

They only destroy the educational system in states where liberals dominate. Their money means nothing because liberals are always going to win in blue cities and states. They are all infected with stupidity.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Teacher LOVE a system where 0% of high school students can read or do math at grade level

I think you actually believe that and that is the dumbest thing you have said yet.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wow, so no difference between the number one Police State in the world that literally monitors your every move 24/7/365 and America, eh? Really? Maybe want to rethink that and get back to us?

Sorry, you butted into a conversation and you aren't talking about what we're talking about.

 

[MarathonMike]

Well, he has none in China because he's a foreigner. He has none in Mississippi because he can only vote for two parties and the Republican win every time, no matter who he votes for. So.... no difference.

My apologies I butted in. When someone makes an assertion that there is no difference in freedoms political or otherwise between China and the US I will butt in every time. If you are an American that is an unconscionable statement. If you are foreign troll, I suppose that is par for the course.

 

[frigidweirdo]

My apologies I butted in. When someone makes an assertion that there is no difference in freedoms political or otherwise between China and the US I will butt in every time. If you are an American that is an unconscionable statement. If you are foreign troll, I suppose that is par for the course.

It's not the butting in that's the problem. It's coming into the conversation and not understanding what is being spoken about. All you had to do was read previous posts.

I was comparing working as a teacher in Mississippi with China. For an AMERICAN working in China, they get no right to vote. Just as they go no right to vote in any other country on the planet, except maybe in local elections.

So for him, China is pretty much the same as Mississippi, his vote doesn't matter there, he doesn't get one in China. The difference is he earns loads of money in China and nothing in Mississippi.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I think you actually believe that and that is the dumbest thing you have said yet.

That was somewhere between sarcasm and acknowledgment that inner city Progressive teachers actually do believe that their mission is to destroy and enslave minorities

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If he can’t close the DOE, he can retask it:

• Make Shop Class Great Again
• Financial literacy classes
• Properly teach US history and Constitution
• Eliminate Bureaucracy
• Classes in Negotiation

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That was somewhere between sarcasm and acknowledgment that inner city Progressive teachers actually do believe that their mission is to destroy and enslave minorities

That's better! I retract my critique.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If he can’t close the DOE, he can retask it:

• Make Shop Class Great Again
• Financial literacy classes
• Properly teach US history and Constitution
• Eliminate Bureaucracy
• Classes in Negotiation

None of those are functions of the federal government in education. Local school boards are responsible for those type of programs.

For example. my former state of Kentucky went heavily into vocational schools all the way back when I was in school in the 70s. One summer, I could voluntarily attend a vocational center at a neighboring high school for our county school system. I went to class just like a regular school day, but I did electronics all day long. They had other programs as well including auto body, carpentry, and culinary. The culinary students fixed lunch for themselves and the rest of the students and faculty every day.

The program continues going strong to this day. I taught for 3 years at a high school that was co-located with one of these regional centers. Several counties provided funding and students for these vocational schools. Students would attend half-days at their home county high school and then the rest of the day at the center. The student body shifted completely around 11 am with the morning session returning to their schools while the afternoon session arrived from the same schools. I believe our local vocational center served about 4 other counties adjacent to ours. We had business, nursing, electrical, carpentry, welding, auto repair and others I probably don't even remember. Students could earn certificates so they could immediately go to the businesses upon graduation, with no further training required in most cases.

My school district in Florida had two high schools that were magnet schools for vocational training. These schools were built from the ground up to concentrate on vocational students, while they also had the math, English and science teachers on campus to attend to their other academic needs.

These programs work very well and they are all funded at the state and local levels. The federal government has no business getting involved and that is why they never have in the past. Other states could so the same thing, as this model has existed for decades.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

None of those are functions of the federal government in education. Local school boards are responsible for those type of programs.

For example. my former state of Kentucky went heavily into vocational schools all the way back when I was in school in the 70s. One summer, I could voluntarily attend a vocational center at a neighboring high school for our county school system. I went to class just like a regular school day, but I did electronics all day long. They had other programs as well including auto body, carpentry, and culinary. The culinary students fixed lunch for themselves and the rest of the students and faculty every day.

The program continues going strong to this day. I taught for 3 years at a high school that was co-located with one of these regional centers. Several counties provided funding and students for these vocational schools. Students would attend half-days at their home county high school and then the rest of the day at the center. The student body shifted completely around 11 am with the morning session returning to their schools while the afternoon session arrived from the same schools. I believe our local vocational center served about 4 other counties adjacent to ours. We had business, nursing, electrical, carpentry, welding, auto repair and others I probably don't even remember. Students could earn certificates so they could immediately go to the businesses upon graduation, with no further training required in most cases.

My school district in Florida had two high schools that were magnet schools for vocational training. These schools were built from the ground up to concentrate on vocational students, while they also had the math, English and science teachers on campus to attend to their other academic needs.

These programs work very well and they are all funded at the state and local levels. The federal government has no business getting involved and that is why they never have in the past. Other states could so the same thing, as this model has existed for decades.

If the federal government Department of Education has no ability to set standards, why do we have it, just to pay Teachers Union, Bureaucrats and Superintendents making more than POTUS?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If the federal government Department of Education has no ability to set standards, why do we have it, just to pay Teachers Union, Bureaucrats and Superintendents making more than POTUS?

The federal government sets standards for special education. That is it. They also provide funding for Title I funding reading programs for the poor. That is about it. They do not pay teachers unions, or superintendents.

My correcting your misinformation is not an indication that I support the Education Department. We will be better off when they are gone, but not for the reason you seem hell-bent on propagating bad info. They are a huge waste of taxpayer dollars best utilized by the people who actually do set the standards.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The federal government sets standards for special education. That is it. They also provide funding for Title I funding reading programs for the poor. That is about it. They do not pay teachers unions, or superintendents.

My correcting your misinformation is not an indication that I support the Education Department. We will be better off when they are gone, but not for the reason you seem hell-bent on propagating bad info. They are a huge waste of taxpayer dollars best utilized by the people who actually do set the standards.

Why does the DOE need $40b a year??

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why does the DOE need $40b a year??

They don't. That is why they need to be dismantled, just like Trump is doing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They don't. That is why they need to be dismantled, just like Trump is doing.

I’m so wrong!!

The DOE spent 268B in 2024!!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I’m so wrong!!

The DOE spent 268B in 2024!!

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Do you realize how much of that was student loans and grants under the programs I mentioned. They don't need all of that to hand out money. That is why they are being shut down.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do you realize how much of that was student loans and grants under the programs I mentioned. They don't need all of that to hand out money. That is why they are being shut down.

$95B

Milei would have shut it down Jan 20th

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

$95B

Milei would have shut it down Jan 20tj

You want to try that again?

 

[jknowgood]

Most universities are public state universities. You want the state taxpayer to be on the hook?

If they don't provide a usable education, then they shouldn't get any funding.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You want to try that again?

Sure.

If Trump we’re as effective as Milei, DOE would have been shut on Jan 20th

Some of my posts are in shorthand

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sure.

If Trump we’re as effective as Milei, DOE would have been shut on Jan 20th

Some of my posts are in shorthand

WHO THE F*** is Milei? The DOE is the Deprtment of Energy.