Climate Activists in the Third World are Taking the Exact Wrong Approach

[Seymour Flops]

This is the story as reported by NPR in "print" i.e. their website:

This week, Colombia and the Netherlands—the birthplace of oil giant Shell—co-hosted the "Transitioning Away from Fossil Fuels conference" in Santa Marta, just north of the coal port.

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/29/nx-s1-5786914/colombia-conference-fossil-fuels

The story is long-winded in lofty goals for reducing fossil fuel use, but very short on specifics of how to do that.

Here's the thing - the probability of a third world nation joining the first world can be predicted by its consumption of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels drive industry, innovation, and public services. The United States and the other first world nations (meaning protectorates of the United States who made use of the opportunities we gave them following WWII) can afford to screw around with solar and wind power.

If nations like Columbia are going to end the dependence on exporting narcotics and become economic powers, they need all the gasoline, diesel, natural gas, and heating oil they can lay their hands on.

An interesting note, in the Radio Piece I heard that led me to look up this article, they said that "spoilers" like the U.S., Russia, and China were not invited. In the website, they claim the U.S. refused to attend.

The U.S., the world's largest oil and gas producer and the largest consumer of oil, did not participate in the conference. The U.S. State Department, which has in the past sent delegates to international climate talks, wrote in an email that "moving away from reliable, affordable, and secure energy to rely on intermittent and costly energy sources is destructive, and the president has been clear that the United States will not participate in the bogus climate agenda."

I don't know what that means. On the radio, they wanted to make it seem like the U.S. was not invited, but in print they wanted the U.S. to seem like they chose not to attend. Maybe they focus grouped the radio story and learned that even their own listeners found third worlders calling first would nations trying to help them "spoilers" made them seem like ungrateful little snots.

 

[Mushroom]

I don't know what that means. On the radio, they wanted to make it seem like the U.S. was not invited, but in print they wanted the U.S. to seem like they chose not to attend. Maybe they focus grouped the radio story and learned that even their own listeners found third worlders calling first would nations trying to help them "spoilers" made them seem like ungrateful little snots.

Such "conferences" have largely been a joke, where nothing is really done in the end other than providing some politicians and political types with a vacation paid for by somebody else.

And in reality, there is very little that can be done to "transition" from fossil fuels. And many of the alternatives are not possible, and other than nuclear can be destructive to the environment when done at scales large enough to replace conventional energy sources.

Just to give an idea, 5% of all crude oil production is used in cargo ships alone. And what is the option other than fossil fuels?

Well, other than a few experimental nuclear powered cargo vessels, there really is none unless we want to turn back the clock about 150 years and return to sail. And another 7% is used in powering aircraft. And for that there is no alternative, nuclear powered aircraft never even got to the experimental flight stage of development.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Such "conferences" have largely been a joke, where nothing is really done in the end other than providing some politicians and political types with a vacation paid for by somebody else.

How astute of you. Turns out the conference took place:

At a hotel by the sea, representatives of more than 50 countries participated in a two-day high-level conference to discuss concrete ways to phase out oil, gas, and coal.

So, several people from each of the fifty countries met at a beach resort, funded by the hard-working and poor people of the third world, to listen to this bloviating.

And in reality, there is very little that can be done to "transition" from fossil fuels. And many of the alternatives are not possible, and other than nuclear can be destructive to the environment when done at scales large enough to replace conventional energy sources.

Just to give an idea, 5% of all crude oil production is used in cargo ships alone. And what is the option other than fossil fuels?

Well, other than a few experimental nuclear powered cargo vessels, there really is none unless we want to turn back the clock about 150 years and return to sail. And another 7% is used in powering aircraft. And for that there is no alternative, nuclear powered aircraft never even got to the experimental flight stage of development.

Ending "dependence on fossil fuels" is a pipe dream unless left to the free market. The free market is dependent on nothing but freedom. Left free, it will quickly and seamlessly find other sources of energy if fossil fuels ever really are in short supply.

 

[Mushroom]

So, several people from each of the fifty countries met at a beach resort, funded by the hard-working and poor people of the third world, to listen to this bloviating.

Notice, they never have these in places like Phoenix, Juarez, Detroit, Calcutta, Lagos, Havana, Port-au-Prince, or Pretoria. Always in some location that is also a tourist destination.

After all, how many of these elites would travel for such a conference in Colon, Panama? Been there, can't imagine anybody actually wanting to go there.

 

[Dante]

This is the story as reported by NPR in "print" i.e. their website:

This week, Colombia and the Netherlands—the birthplace of oil giant Shell—co-hosted the "Transitioning Away from Fossil Fuels conference" in Santa Marta, just north of the coal port.

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/29/nx-s1-5786914/colombia-conference-fossil-fuels

The story is long-winded in lofty goals for reducing fossil fuel use, but very short on specifics of how to do that.

Here's the thing - the probability of a third world nation joining the first world can be predicted by its consumption of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels drive industry, innovation, and public services. The United States and the other first world nations (meaning protectorates of the United States who made use of the opportunities we gave them following WWII) can afford to screw around with solar and wind power.

If nations like Columbia are going to end the dependence on exporting narcotics and become economic powers, they need all the gasoline, diesel, natural gas, and heating oil they can lay their hands on.

An interesting note, in the Radio Piece I heard that led me to look up this article, they said that "spoilers" like the U.S., Russia, and China were not invited. In the website, they claim the U.S. refused to attend.

The U.S., the world's largest oil and gas producer and the largest consumer of oil, did not participate in the conference. The U.S. State Department, which has in the past sent delegates to international climate talks, wrote in an email that "moving away from reliable, affordable, and secure energy to rely on intermittent and costly energy sources is destructive, and the president has been clear that the United States will not participate in the bogus climate agenda."

I don't know what that means. On the radio, they wanted to make it seem like the U.S. was not invited, but in print they wanted the U.S. to seem like they chose not to attend. Maybe they focus grouped the radio story and learned that even their own listeners found third worlders calling first would nations trying to help them "spoilers" made them seem like ungrateful little snots.

"in "print" i.e. their website"

Really?

 

[Seymour Flops]

"in "print" i.e. their website"

Really?

Really?

That's what you got out of my post?

 

[Dante]

Really?

That's what you got out of my post?

It is an odd preface. Not sure wtf it's there.

 

[wamose]

Who pays for the assholes of the world to go to these conferences? They're a waste of time and money, especially for a country at war and 39 trillion dollars in debt.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It is an odd preface. Not sure wtf it's there.

Interesting.

I suppose "text" would have been a better word to use, my point being that they said one thing on the radio and wrote something completely different about a factual observation on their website. So, yes. Good catch!

Can I ask you something? Have you ever been diagnosed as a person on the autism spectrum? You don't have to answer, but I work with students on the spectrum, and that is a very common thing that they do. They will interrupt dialogue if they catch a meaningless error and won't let it go and get back to the topic until the person "admits" the error. Not exactly a train of a great conversationalist.

It's of little consequence when they are talking with a teacher with extensive training in this disorder, but it alienates people in the real world. In a situation like a job interview, it dooms them to failure. I notice you seem to have plenty of time to post here, is that because of the very low employment rate among people with autism?

 

[Dante]

Interesting.

I suppose "text" would have been a better word to use, my point being that they said one thing on the radio and wrote something completely different about a factual observation on their website. So, yes. Good catch!

Can I ask you something? Have you ever been diagnosed as a person on the autism spectrum? You don't have to answer, but I work with students on the spectrum, and that is a very common thing that they do. They will interrupt dialogue if they catch a meaningless error and won't let it go and get back to the topic until the person "admits" the error. Not exactly a train of a great conversationalist.

It's of little consequence when they are talking with a teacher with extensive training in this disorder, but it alienates people in the real world. In a situation like a job interview, it dooms them to failure. I notice you seem to have plenty of time to post here, is that because of the very low employment rate among people with autism?

You are so far out of the league here. As poor technicians, poor plumbers, and poor politicians exist -- we all know about poor Teachers.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are so far out of the league here. As poor technicians, poor plumbers, and poor politicians exist -- we all know about poor Teachers.

So you prefer to keep information about your disability private. I will respect that and ssy no more.

 

[Stryder50]

The major stumble block so many either don't know, don't acknowledge, don't want to talk about is how "Carbon Resources", a.k.a. "Fossil Fuels", such as petroleum(mainly) and natural gas(slightly) are key raw materials for many of our modern products.

If it is synthetic, man-made, artificial, 'PLASTIC' it has come from either of these two about 90-95% of the time;

Clothes, shoes, appliance containers and cabinets, furniture, auto body parts, tires, asphalt, paint, lubricants, fertilizers, assorted chemicals for industry and agriculture, food packaging, airplane body and interior parts, vinyl, carpeting, upholstery, etc., etc., etc. ;

I think some of you might get the picture, the scope of the "problem" here.

Point is that these "Carbon Resources" are necessary for more than fuel ~ energy ~ power. They are the raw materials our modern world is built out of and depends upon.

Seems many of these experts and decision makers are clueless about want makes our modern society run, what it's substance is.

Or they are playing us all for ignorant fools.

 

[EMH]

Who pays for the assholes of the world to go to these conferences? They're a waste of time and money, especially for a country at war and 39 trillion dollars in debt.

Who enforces CO2 FRAUD and its bilking of the American Taxpayer?


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