Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[Monk-Eye]

" Assumptions Of Fools "

* Foot In Mouth Disease *

That butcher looks quite pleased. You?

That is not an abortion , it is alive .

Apparently quality of life means nothing to the dictators as traitors to principles of individualism .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Conceited Arrogance Of Hue Mammon Apex Predator "

* Protecting Individualism Against Illegitimate Aggression From Group Think *

WOW, see that everyone! Now their no better than cattle!
Nazis indeed do still exist!

A fetus has not satisfied a live birth , that is a requirement for citizens , and a fetus is therefore without constitutional protections from equitable doctrine .

The distinction between dictates by government versus liberty of the individual , when it comes to abortion " with cause " when " with cause " is reasonable , is a part that horror genre clowns seem to be hiding from .

A nazi is a national socialist for a german state of germans that is therefore neither applicable to myself , nor to principles of individualism , nor to elective abortion by individuals rather than abortion by dictates from government .

 

[HeyNorm]

" Conceited Arrogance Of Hue Mammon Apex Predator "

* Protecting Individualism Against Illegitimate Aggression From Group Think *

A fetus has not satisfied a live birth , that is a requirement for citizens , and a fetus is therefore without constitutional protections from equitable doctrine .

The distinction between dictates by government versus liberty of the individual , when it comes to abortion " with cause " when " with cause " is reasonable , is a part that horror genre clowns seem to be hiding from .

A nazi is a national socialist for a german state of germans that is therefore neither applicable to myself , nor to principles of individualism , nor to elective abortion by individuals rather than abortion by dictates from government .

Nazism has no borders. And cattle aren’t human. Just like Hitler dehumanized Jews, we see how you continue to do the same to my fellow citizen the fetus.

 

[beagle9]

" Short On Consideration Of The Facts "

* Nice Try But In Your Face *

So you would rather force a woman to carry to term and go through the risk of inducing labor or c-section to satisfy some idiotic notion of virtue ; wow , that sounds like some to the most idiotic medical advise anyone could propose .

Tell us cowboy , what do you do with calves born with deformities ?

Ok so now it's deformities as if anyone has a problem with what goes on between a real Doctor (not an abortion doctor), and his or her patient. New buzz word eh ??

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Maybe Get Back When Sober "

* Speak English *

Ok so now it's deformities as if anyone has a problem with what goes on between a real Doctor (not an abortion doctor), and his or her patient. New buzz word eh ??

What ?

 

[beagle9]

" Conceited Arrogance Of Hue Mammon Apex Predator "

* Protecting Individualism Against Illegitimate Aggression From Group Think *

A fetus has not satisfied a live birth , that is a requirement for citizens , and a fetus is therefore without constitutional protections from equitable doctrine .

The distinction between dictates by government versus liberty of the individual , when it comes to abortion " with cause " when " with cause " is reasonable , is a part that horror genre clowns seem to be hiding from .

A nazi is a national socialist for a german state of germans that is therefore neither applicable to myself , nor to principles of individualism , nor to elective abortion by individuals rather than abortion by dictates from government .

Might not satisfy the definition of a live birth yet, but that doesn't make the human being not alive in the womb, so the issue should be not to allow the killing of that life within the womb, therefore allowing one to commit an uncivilized act because they think that it's their right to do so.

Example: Let's say a woman is sitting there drinking beer, smoking cigarettes with her belly showing about 4 months, and bam she decides she don't want that baby for whatever reason, so she makes her an appointment with the abortion clinic. They tell her come on in, and we'll take care of it for you. So they commit to taking the babies life in what we've been made to understand now to be a terrible thing taking place, so this is not how a civilized SOCIETY acts, and it needs to be educated better.

Avenue's can be made for all kinds of sin to be accommodated, but that doesn't make the sin any more not a sin than it already is. Civilized society doesn't accommodate sinful activities, but instead should be geared towards educating itself away from sinful activities. Won't ever be perfect, but we don't have to be so vile either.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Scrotus And Traitors To Us Republic Which Support The Sedition Of Dobbs *

* More On Dumb Founded *

Nazism has no borders.

If one presumes an intent for global expansion of a national socialist state of germany for germans that eventually replace all other races , sure but otherwise the assertion is over drawn nonsense .

* Animal Kingdom And Universal Scale Of Exploitation *

And cattle aren’t human.

Hue mammon includes all mammals and the vanity of arrogance by damned dirty apes is comical .

Hue mammon does not exclude the inchoate from a universal scale of exploitation .

Hue mammon selectively excludes the choate from a universal scale of exploitation .


* Dehumanizing Citizenship And Quality Of Life *

Just like Hitler dehumanized Jews, we see how you continue to do the same to my fellow citizen the fetus.

Of course a fetus is not a citizen as it has not been born but your goal is deceit and are therefore a liar .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Wishing And Wanting Versus Getting "

* Fantasy World Of Gumdrops And Rainbows *

Might not satisfy the definition of a live birth yet, but that doesn't make the human being not alive in the womb, so the issue should be not to allow the killing of that life within the womb, therefore allowing one to commit an uncivilized act because they think that it's their right to do so.

A position that there is no such thing as " with cause " abortion is simply dishonest and delusional .

A position that there should be no such thing as a " without cause " abortion , even before a stage of " with cause " abortion would be reasonable , is unconstitutional and wishful thinking .

* Civilized By Nature *

Example: Let's say a woman is sitting there drinking beer, smoking cigarettes with her belly showing about 4 months, and bam she decides she don't want that baby for whatever reason, so she makes her an appointment with the abortion clinic. They tell her come on in, and we'll take care of it for you. So they commit to taking the babies life in what we've been made to understand now to be a terrible thing taking place, so this is not how a civilized SOCIETY acts, and it needs to be educated better.

Stop the conflagration of abortion " with cause " and abortion " without cause " .

The " what if " scenario of a " without cause " abortion occurring at a developmental stage when " with cause " abortion is reasonable would be very atypical , if occurring at all .

It does not make sense to harangue the public and create unconstitutional laws that ignore that " with cause " abortions are a fact of life and that " without cause " abortions do not occur at developmental stages when " with cause " abortions are reasonable .


* Navigating Salvific Roads Maps "

Avenue's can be made for all kinds of sin to be accommodated, but that doesn't make the sin any more not a sin than it already is. Civilized society doesn't accommodate sinful activities, but instead should be geared towards educating itself away from sinful activities. Won't ever be perfect, but we don't have to be so vile either.

None have issue with private education for virtue , but that does not mean laws should be in place to outlaw abortion as bantering for personal volition occurs , because there are different perspectives on virtue and personal volition .

 

[HeyNorm]

" Wishing And Wanting Versus Getting "

* Fantasy World Of Gumdrops And Rainbows *

A position that there is no such thing as " with cause " abortion is simply dishonest and delusional .

A position that there should be no such thing as a " without cause " abortion , even before a stage of " with cause " abortion would be reasonable , is unconstitutional and wishful thinking .

* Civilized By Nature *

Stop the conflagration of abortion " with cause " and abortion " without cause " .

The " what if " scenario of a " without cause " abortion occurring at a developmental stage when " with cause " abortion is reasonable would be very atypical , if occurring at all .

It does not make sense to harangue the public and create unconstitutional laws that ignore that " with cause " abortions are a fact of life and that " without cause " abortions do not occur at developmental stages when " with cause " abortion are reasonable .


* Navigating Salvific Roads Maps "

None have issue with private education for virtue , but that does not mean laws should be in place to outlaw abortion as you banter for personal volition , because there are different perspectives on virtue and personal volition .

*Derp, Derp, Derp*

Rationalizing the taking of human life by making the argument they are less then you, is exactly the argument the slave owner and the Nazi used.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

NFBW230121-#6,837 • Show the forum where I actual post where you took it to mean I want women to register the day they have intercourse. If you cannot produce it we all must rightfully perceive that you are indeed lying about me.
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HeyNorm230121-#6,839 It would be the only way to assure the EXACT age of the fetus.

NFBW: So you lied, You made a bad assumption and put a lie in writing that I “want women to register the day they have intercourse”.

I want what a majority of women want - reproductive rights that were handed down fifty years ago to the day. She had fifty years where the freedom of choice was based on viability was set at 28 weeks and that gave woman plenty of time to decide to terminate their own pregnancy without any requirement or need for a woman to register the day they have intercourse with any government or law enforcement agency.

Why would I want women to report to the government when they have sex because when we contemplate secular law based on common law we agree to change the viability line from 28 weeks to 24 weeks by a Constitutional amendment?????

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[HeyNorm]

NFBW230121-#6,837 • Show the forum where I actual post where you took it to mean I want women to register the day they have intercourse. If you cannot produce it we all must rightfully perceive that you are indeed lying about me.
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HeyNorm230121-#6,839 It would be the only way to assure the EXACT age of the fetus.

NFBW: So you lied, You made a bad assumption and put a lie in writing that I “want women to register the day they have intercourse”.

I want what a majority of women want - reproductive rights that were handed down fuftu years ago to the day. She had fifty years where the freedom of choice was based on viability was set at 28 weeks and that gave woman plenty of time to decide to terminate their own pregnancy without any requirement or need for a woman to register the day they have intercourse with any government or law enforcement agency.

Why would I want women to report to the government when they have sex because when we contemplate secular law based on common law we agree to change the viability line from 28 weeks to 24 weeks by a Constitutional amendment?????

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If you claim a fetus is viable on one calendar day, so can be protected, but not the previous day, the only way to have that knowledge, is the date of conception.

You think the difference in life and death is a day in the calendar. So your whole argument must include the registration of sexual encounters.

And that is what you want. Deal with it.

 

[beagle9]

If you claim a fetus is viable on one calendar day, so can be protected, but not the previous day, the only way to have that knowledge, is the date of conception.

You think the difference in life and death is a day in the calendar. So your whole argument must include the registration of sexual encounters.

And that is what you want. Deal with it.

Seems to be the logical conclusion..

 

[whutTHEYsay]

my fellow citizen the fetus.

NFBW: What country do you live in? Wombutopia? It can’t be the USA if you believe in my country’s Constitutional requirements for citizenship.

NFBW230121-#6,837 • Show the forum where I actually post where you took it to mean I want women to register the day they have intercourse. If you cannot produce it we all must rightfully perceive that you are indeed lying about me.
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HeyNorm230121-#6,839 It would be the only way to assure the EXACT age of the fetus.
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NFBW230121-#6,850 So you lied, You made a bad assumption and put a lie in writing that I “want women to register the day they have intercourse”. •••• I want what a majority of women want - reproductive rights that were handed down fifty years ago to the day. She had fifty years where the freedom of choice was based on viability was set at 28 weeks and that gave woman plenty of time to decide to terminate their own pregnancy without any requirement or need for a woman to register the day they have intercourse with any government or law enforcement agency. •••• Why would I want women to report to the government when they have sex because when we contemplate secular law based on common law we agree to change the viability line from 28 weeks to 24 weeks by a Constitutional amendment?????
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HeyNorm230123-#6,851 If you claim a fetus is viable on one calendar day, so can be protected, but not the previous day,

NFBW: I do not claim that. Good thing you used “if” this time.

I am contemplating secular law based upon established Common Law that is required for an individualistic self-governed civil society to exist. The Common Law that exists since the founding of America is that there is a sense that life begins when contemplating legal status for the unborn at a moment of time between conception and live birth. Fetal right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness are therefore not recognized in Common Law near the moment of conception or near the moment of first breath and live birth. It was recognized in English/European dominated Colonial America as a moment when movement was felt. It has nothing to do with counting a calendar in days from the moment a woman had sex. HeyNorm is being absurd and beagle9 is running off the cliff of idiocy right there with him.

Seems to be the logical conclusion..

NFBW: Good Christian’s must not encourage posters like HeyNorm to lie about what other posters want.

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[Chuz Life]

NFBW: Do you know how ridiculous and absurd it is to announce to the public that one human cell right after fertilization is a living human being. END2208060851

Do you know (or care) how ridiculous it is, to DENY that a human being is a "human being" - regardless of the stage of development that the human being is in?

Human Beings do not MORPH out of one organism that is NOT a human being and into an organism that IS.

 

[Chuz Life]

A fetus has not satisfied a live birth , that is a requirement for citizens , and a fetus is therefore without constitutional protections from equitable doctrine .

Monk-Eye that is (at least partially) blatantly incorrect.

The actual text of the 14th Amendment is:

Section 1.​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
A person born is a "citizen."

That part of your comment was correct.

However, the 14th Amendment goes on to say this:

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

As readers can see,

Your asinine claim that a "person" must be a "citizen" (aka person born) os provably false.

The Constitution does in fact establish the rights of all "persons" within its jurisdiction, whether they are "citizens" of the United States, or not. See Supreme Court Case "Wo vs Hopkins" as an example.

 

[HeyNorm]

NFBW: What country do you live in? Wombutopia? It can’t be the USA if you believe in my country’s Constitutional requirements for citizenship.

NFBW230121-#6,837 • Show the forum where I actually post where you took it to mean I want women to register the day they have intercourse. If you cannot produce it we all must rightfully perceive that you are indeed lying about me.
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HeyNorm230121-#6,839 It would be the only way to assure the EXACT age of the fetus.
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NFBW230121-#6,850 So you lied, You made a bad assumption and put a lie in writing that I “want women to register the day they have intercourse”. •••• I want what a majority of women want - reproductive rights that were handed down fifty years ago to the day. She had fifty years where the freedom of choice was based on viability was set at 28 weeks and that gave woman plenty of time to decide to terminate their own pregnancy without any requirement or need for a woman to register the day they have intercourse with any government or law enforcement agency. •••• Why would I want women to report to the government when they have sex because when we contemplate secular law based on common law we agree to change the viability line from 28 weeks to 24 weeks by a Constitutional amendment?????
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HeyNorm230123-#6,851 If you claim a fetus is viable on one calendar day, so can be protected, but not the previous day,

NFBW: I do not claim that. Good thing you used “if” this time.

I am contemplating secular law based upon established Common Law that is required for an individualistic self-governed civil society to exist. The Common Law that exists since the founding of America is that there is a sense that life begins when contemplating legal status for the unborn at a moment of time between conception and live birth. Fetal right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness are therefore not recognized in Common Law near the moment of conception or near the moment of first breath and live birth. It was recognized in English/European dominated Colonial America as a moment when movement was felt. It has nothing to do with counting a calendar in days from the moment a woman had sex. HeyNorm is being absurd and beagle9 is running off the cliff of idiocy right there with him.


NFBW: Good Christian’s must not encourage posters like HeyNorm to lie about what other posters want.

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Hey, one day the fetus is no better than a dining room chair to you, the next day it is a human being that warrants governmental protections. These are your qualifications. Knowledge of the date of conception is required, by you, so that enforcement of the humans civil rights can be properly administered.

Sad that you think that one day it is chattel, the next day human.

Do you have any other examples of this?

I can only think of one other. When Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves.

Sad, we could use Honest Abe again.

 

[beagle9]

Do you know (or care) how ridiculous it is, to DENY that a human being is a "human being" - regardless of the stage of development that the human being is in?

Human Beings do not MORPH out of one organism that is NOT a human being and into an organism that IS.

He's got to justify his position some kind of way.. lol
Hang around long enough, and you won't believe the many hoops this cat attempts to jump through.

 

[Chuz Life]

He's got to justify his position some kind of way.. lol
Hang around long enough, and you won't believe the many hoops this cat attempts to jump through.

I wish I could be here more. I miss this place.

Read enough of his posts to agree with your analysis.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

CarsomyrPlusSix said: That is scientific fact.

NFBW220804-#4,321 • Then show me your scientific fact that a viable human being exists beginning approximately between seven and nine months prior to a fetus being able to oxygenate its own blood without being hooked up, encapsulated and part of it’s living breathing eating shitting peeing laughing crying mother’s body. You and little ding have shown me nothing so far.

I wish I could be here more. I miss this place.

NFBW: I wish you could be here too. Truth cannot come to hit and run posters. You’d need to answer some questions as I would yours

After I review a few of your posts I’ll comment If you have time, search ChuzLife without the space and you can read them. And have a nice day ChuzLife

 

[whutTHEYsay]

NFBW220806-#4,380 Do you know how ridiculous and absurd it is to announce to the public that one human cell right after fertilization is a living human being.
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ChuzLife230122-#6,854 Chuz Life Human Beings do not MORPH out of one organism that is NOT a human being and into an organism that

NFBW: My position clearly stated is this

NFBW230118-#6,774 I understand the very simple truth, that every single individual human being who has ever lived on this planet, has a life that begins at conception. Immediately upon conception, the living human organism gets attached to a woman’s uterus, and begins its development on the human lifespan, continuum. This continuum begins at conception and develops to a moment of viability then birth and then death. What else do I need to know about biology when we are contemplating the natural human rights of pregnant women in our secular society?


NFBW220726-#3,920 My view is abortion is literally ending the development of a living, genetically distinct human organism beholden to the autonomy of the human being who took part in its creation

My argument

NFBW220902-#4,994 The basis of ding and CarsomyrPlusSix argument is the Catholic teaching that life begins at conception. •••• A human being at the moment of conception scientifically would be a human being that consists of one cell that has no brain, no heart, no skin no eyes, no ears, no mouth, no lungs, no hands, no feet and no consciousness. That argument on a scientific level is absurd because we human beings are made up of thirty trillion cells. To argue that a one cell human being must have more rights than a thirty trillion cell human being is also absurd. I don’t see any reason to accept an absurd argument to deprive a pregnant woman of a right that pregnant wonan have had for fifty years. Religion can be absurd but science cannot be absurd, not even for one thirty trillionth of a second.

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