Right Wing World: Conservative America's Coming Civil War?

[nodoginnafight]

I think the large scale riots were fed by the fact that people didn't have a stake in their own society. Lots of poverty and anti-discrimination programs that came after the riots kept the anger and helplessness of the underclasses and minorities in check.

When there is a strong middle class with equal opportunity there is less discontent in society

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Watts Riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apologists can be found for any riot.

As for a strong middle class, the government has been creating a strong dependent lower income class since before the last round of riots. The government has also been working for a strong, legislatively-advantaged oligarchy. It certainly has not striven for a strong middle class. This is about politicians gaining power and keeping it.

If there is a new round of riots, it won't be for civil rights. They will be for invented "rights". Food security, health security, shelter security.

I would not mind if a few bankers and politicians were strung up from lamp posts in the process.

"Let them eat cake" was NEVER a very popular policy.

 

[g5000]

Our fiscal problems and our national economic problems would be very simple to resolve. However, the solutions would seriously undermine the current batch of retards' hold on power, so the situation right now is hopeless.

 

[Meathead]

I think the large scale riots were fed by the fact that people didn't have a stake in their own society. Lots of poverty and anti-discrimination programs that came after the riots kept the anger and helplessness of the underclasses and minorities in check.

When there is a strong middle class with equal opportunity there is less discontent in society

Kerner Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Watts Riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apologists can be found for any riot.

As for a strong middle class, the government has been creating a strong dependent lower income class since before the last round of riots. The government has also been working for a strong, legislatively-advantaged oligarchy. It certainly has not striven for a strong middle class. This is about politicians gaining power and keeping it.

If there is a new round of riots, it won't be for civil rights. They will be for invented "rights". Food security, health security, shelter security.

I would not mind if a few bankers and politicians were strung up from lamp posts in the process.

"Let them eat cake" was NEVER a very popular policy.

I hardly know you, but your name is almost as bad as "right winger". Your dog is dead.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Apologists can be found for any riot.

As for a strong middle class, the government has been creating a strong dependent lower income class since before the last round of riots. The government has also been working for a strong, legislatively-advantaged oligarchy. It certainly has not striven for a strong middle class. This is about politicians gaining power and keeping it.

If there is a new round of riots, it won't be for civil rights. They will be for invented "rights". Food security, health security, shelter security.

I would not mind if a few bankers and politicians were strung up from lamp posts in the process.

"Let them eat cake" was NEVER a very popular policy.

I hardly know you, but your name is almost as bad as "right winger". Your dog is dead.

And you claim to be a perfect example of your screen name?????
What point are you trying to make?

 

[beretta304]

Apologists can be found for any riot.

As for a strong middle class, the government has been creating a strong dependent lower income class since before the last round of riots. The government has also been working for a strong, legislatively-advantaged oligarchy. It certainly has not striven for a strong middle class. This is about politicians gaining power and keeping it.

If there is a new round of riots, it won't be for civil rights. They will be for invented "rights". Food security, health security, shelter security.

I would not mind if a few bankers and politicians were strung up from lamp posts in the process.

"Let them eat cake" was NEVER a very popular policy.

I hardly know you, but your name is almost as bad as "right winger". Your dog is dead.

Ironic? Rightwinger couln't be more left and nodoginnafight seems to start fights just to show us his dog...

 

[Meathead]

"Let them eat cake" was NEVER a very popular policy.

I hardly know you, but your name is almost as bad as "right winger". Your dog is dead.

What point are you trying to make?

I thought my point would have been clear - you're a hack cowering under a neutral name. Is there anything you don't understand?

 

[nodoginnafight]

I hardly know you, but your name is almost as bad as "right winger". Your dog is dead.

What point are you trying to make?

I thought my point would have been clear - you're a hack cowering under a neutral name. Is there anything you don't understand?

The name came from a football debate over two teams and I didn't care that much about either. I kept it because, at the time, folks were flaming out, getting banned and then re-registering under different screen names. I vowed to keep my screen name and become one of those.

I would assume that people understand that every American has "a dog in the fight" when it comes to U.S. government and policy.

Is confusion and shots over screen names really all you have to offer?

 

[Avatar4321]

Right Wing World: Conservative America's Coming Civil War?

Conservative America has a vast noise machine, and one arm of it consists of avowedly conservative noise makers otherwise known as think tanks. One of these think tanks is the newly demented-de-minted Heritage Foundation which has lost what little credibility it had by appointing Tea Party Whack-a-doodle, Jim Demint, as it's head. Another think tank is the American Enterprise Institute (AEI - a home for demented cold warriors and other misfits). At this AEI they have visiting scholars, one of which is paid to pump out alarmist propaganda under the guise of scholarship...

Meet Arthur L. Herman, a revisionist historian ("an American popular historian, currently serving as a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute") who "generally employs the Great Man perspective in his work, which is 19th-century historical methodology attributing human events and their outcomes to the singular efforts of great men (and occasionally women)..."

Fox News Opinion blogs:

We're now one step closer to America's coming civil war

By Arthur Herman | Published January 03, 2013 | FoxNews.com

Consider this story from the Wall Street Journal a few days before Christmas:

“Thousands of people in several Argentine cities ransacked supermarkets for a second day in the latest challenge to President Chistina Kirchner, who is struggling to revive a weak economy...In the central city Rosario, two people were killed during the incidents and 137 people arrested.

...

Some have said my warnings about a coming civil war between makers and takers are exaggerated. It’s true that Argentina’s politicians have been waging class warfare since Juan and Eva Peron–and they aren’t fazed when it turns bloody. Obama and the Democrats are relative newcomers to the game. But Argentina reveals who really suffers when those who create a nation’s wealth get mugged by those who spend it–as just happened this week in Washington.

It’s the poor and the middle class, the very ones big government says it’s trying to protect.

...

When the economy tanks and the government checks have to shrink, their only alternative is to take to the streets. That’s what happening in Argentina, and in Greece; and that’s where the growth of government is taking us here, as this current budget deal increases handouts–and more and more Americans are finding that an unemployment or Social Security disability check is their only life line.

Washington’s Republicans and Democrats alike have become the toll collectors on the road to serfdom–and the road to Rosario.

Now you know the how, where, and why wingnuts at USMB and elsewhere get their whacky world views...


note: did I fail to mention Arthur is part of the Liars Club? Yup.

This idiot regurgitates the right-wing unending bullshit that the failure of the Bay of Pigs was the fault of one, and only one man, JFK. He is either completely unaware or choses to completely ignore the fact that the CIA's own internal Inspector General's report put the blame for the failure, not on JFK's shoulders, but on the CIA's.

These simple minded right-wing idiots actually think it was so simple, just send in the Air Force, or the Marines and the problem of Cuba would have been solved. They never explain how. They never tell what would the Soviets do if JFK did that? Would they take Berlin in response? Then what happens?

The Liars Club: Today's Idiot - Arthur Herman

Dante

dD

You guys have been hoping for this for years. it hasnt happened yet

 

[Meathead]

What point are you trying to make?

I thought my point would have been clear - you're a hack cowering under a neutral name. Is there anything you don't understand?

The name came from a football debate over two teams and I didn't care that much about either. I kept it because, at the time, folks were flaming out, getting banned and then re-registering under different screen names. I vowed to keep my screen name and become one of those.

I would assume that people understand that every American has "a dog in the fight" when it comes to U.S. government and policy.

Is confusion and shots over screen names really all you have to offer?

Please stop! You would already be annoying enough anyway. Your explanation is also more than a bit annoying. Give "us" a break.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Right Wing World: Conservative America's Coming Civil War?

Conservative America has a vast noise machine, and one arm of it consists of avowedly conservative noise makers otherwise known as think tanks. One of these think tanks is the newly demented-de-minted Heritage Foundation which has lost what little credibility it had by appointing Tea Party Whack-a-doodle, Jim Demint, as it's head. Another think tank is the American Enterprise Institute (AEI - a home for demented cold warriors and other misfits). At this AEI they have visiting scholars, one of which is paid to pump out alarmist propaganda under the guise of scholarship...

Meet Arthur L. Herman, a revisionist historian ("an American popular historian, currently serving as a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute") who "generally employs the Great Man perspective in his work, which is 19th-century historical methodology attributing human events and their outcomes to the singular efforts of great men (and occasionally women)..."

Fox News Opinion blogs:

We're now one step closer to America's coming civil war

By Arthur Herman | Published January 03, 2013 | FoxNews.com

Consider this story from the Wall Street Journal a few days before Christmas:

“Thousands of people in several Argentine cities ransacked supermarkets for a second day in the latest challenge to President Chistina Kirchner, who is struggling to revive a weak economy...In the central city Rosario, two people were killed during the incidents and 137 people arrested.

...

Some have said my warnings about a coming civil war between makers and takers are exaggerated. It’s true that Argentina’s politicians have been waging class warfare since Juan and Eva Peron–and they aren’t fazed when it turns bloody. Obama and the Democrats are relative newcomers to the game. But Argentina reveals who really suffers when those who create a nation’s wealth get mugged by those who spend it–as just happened this week in Washington.

It’s the poor and the middle class, the very ones big government says it’s trying to protect.

...

When the economy tanks and the government checks have to shrink, their only alternative is to take to the streets. That’s what happening in Argentina, and in Greece; and that’s where the growth of government is taking us here, as this current budget deal increases handouts–and more and more Americans are finding that an unemployment or Social Security disability check is their only life line.

Washington’s Republicans and Democrats alike have become the toll collectors on the road to serfdom–and the road to Rosario.

Now you know the how, where, and why wingnuts at USMB and elsewhere get their whacky world views...


note: did I fail to mention Arthur is part of the Liars Club? Yup.

This idiot regurgitates the right-wing unending bullshit that the failure of the Bay of Pigs was the fault of one, and only one man, JFK. He is either completely unaware or choses to completely ignore the fact that the CIA's own internal Inspector General's report put the blame for the failure, not on JFK's shoulders, but on the CIA's.

These simple minded right-wing idiots actually think it was so simple, just send in the Air Force, or the Marines and the problem of Cuba would have been solved. They never explain how. They never tell what would the Soviets do if JFK did that? Would they take Berlin in response? Then what happens?

The Liars Club: Today's Idiot - Arthur Herman

Dante

dD

You guys have been hoping for this for years. it hasnt happened yet

Idiot!

another wingnut imbecile weak on reading and comprehension?

the article is from right wing conservatives talking about a civil war. It is what they have been hoping for...

 

[del]

It should be obvious by now that the public is arming itself for something. Although it's probably not any kind of action against the government, but the people fighting one another.

In Utah a gun show drew 20,000 people the first day and the vendors ran out of merchandise. California, long lines waiting to get into a local gun show. Chicago's gun shops have empty shelves. 8,000 people in a few hours at a Florida gun show. In Colorado a background check that used to take 15 minutes now has a lag time of 8 days.

What do you think is happening?

In a word, paranoia.

.

Kind of like the Jews in Germany in 1932, right? That kind of paranoid?

no, kind of like you, right now, francie.

keep swinging

 

[del]

How very weird to see right wingers come here and not grasp what the American Enterprise Institute visiting scholar is saying...it is the right wing who is paranoid and fearful.


good gawd, can the wingnuts here be that stupid they can't believe what one of their own leaders is saying in print?

Do ya think the jews were "paranoid" in Nazi Germany? I'm sure you'd be ridiculing them as well.

You just keep your head buried up obama's ass up to your shoulders and let people getting the fresh air do the thinking.

Moron.

when you pussied out on rep, did they take your brains as well as your balls?

 

[del]

Do ya think the jews were "paranoid" in Nazi Germany? I'm sure you'd be ridiculing them as well.

You just keep your head buried up obama's ass up to your shoulders and let people getting the fresh air do the thinking.

Moron.

you poor child. does your doctor and parole officer know you're back on the internet?

That's what I thought... just more pathetic BULL SHIT from the board TURD.

Idiot.

more caps, pole, more caps

 

[Mac1958]

In a word, paranoia.

.

Kind of like the Jews in Germany in 1932, right? That kind of paranoid?

no, kind of like you, right now, francie.

keep swinging

Holy crap.

A direct comparison to Hitler.

I'll go ahead and rest my case.

Step away from the radio. Step away from the radio.

.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Tim McVeigh was a vet

STFU ya' drunken stooge.

So was liberal marxist Lee Harvey Oswald.......What's your point, Matilda?

 

[there4eyeM]

Talk is cheap, unless it is sedition; then, it could be expensive.

Just what is being proposed here, an insurrection against a democratically elected body of representatives? Against the constitution that forbids such attacks? And it is seriously thought that large numbers will join to die for - what, exactly? A new government of a minority élite of some kind?

And you think the armed forces sworn to uphold this government are going to throw that away for who-knows-what?

 

[Meathead]

Talk is cheap, unless it is sedition; then, it could be expensive.

Just what is being proposed here, an insurrection against a democratically elected body of representatives? Against the constitution that forbids such attacks? And it is seriously thought that large numbers will join to die for - what, exactly? A new government of a minority élite of some kind?

And you think the armed forces sworn to uphold this government are going to throw that away for who-knows-what?

I think a "Civil War" today would be more metaphorical. I doubt it would ever come to actual war, but I could see a "New Civil War".

 

[nodoginnafight]

Talk is cheap, unless it is sedition; then, it could be expensive.

Just what is being proposed here, an insurrection against a democratically elected body of representatives? Against the constitution that forbids such attacks? And it is seriously thought that large numbers will join to die for - what, exactly? A new government of a minority élite of some kind?

And you think the armed forces sworn to uphold this government are going to throw that away for who-knows-what?

I think a "Civil War" today would be more metaphorical. I doubt it would ever come to actual war, but I could see a "New Civil War".

what does a "new civil war" look like?

 

[Meathead]

Talk is cheap, unless it is sedition; then, it could be expensive.

Just what is being proposed here, an insurrection against a democratically elected body of representatives? Against the constitution that forbids such attacks? And it is seriously thought that large numbers will join to die for - what, exactly? A new government of a minority élite of some kind?

And you think the armed forces sworn to uphold this government are going to throw that away for who-knows-what?

I think a "Civil War" today would be more metaphorical. I doubt it would ever come to actual war, but I could see a "New Civil War".

what does a "new civil war" look like?

It really doesn't look like anything, it is metaphorical.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The left must feel real threatened. The boogey-man is around every corner...

actually, if you had and reading and comprehension skills you'd see where the right wing is saying they feel threatened and they say why...the boogey man is poor people and minorities, as well as the 47% rioting in the streets.

Since it's the poor people and minorities being threatening, there is good reason to feel threatened. That, and liberal judges are emptying the prisons as fast as they can.

Yup, that's why the USA has the highest per capital prison population in the world.