Also, you clearly have not taken a look at any of the other industrialized nations in the world, which ALL use payment systems that are not like ours, as they are variants on the "single payer" theme.
And they are examples of, to one degree or another, state socialism. Equivocating on terminology won't change that.
Today, for-profit corporations make the decisions that would be transferred to the government.
Nope. The power that single-payer grants to government is the power force everyone into buying insurance from the same 'company'.
As we see, for-profit insurers have been fully willing to dump people who get sick, to fail to address those of limited means, refuse to serve those with existing medical problems, etc., etc.
So far, we patch over these problems by making more and more regulations. (Remembering that before the ACA, there were numerous regulations on health care insurers - just not enough to solve some of these problems we see as so serious.)
If the government made those decisions, WE (or our representatives) would vote on them, rather than having to pass regulations in the hopes of requiring corporations to deliver what we need.
Yep. And if your preferences in health care or insurance aren't in line with the majority, you're stuck with whatever they decide. In a free market, if your insurance company pisses you off, you can look for another. Or find some other way to pay for your health care. If the government takes over, you're stuck with whatever they think you ought to have - or be force to buy, rather.
It's not a gov takeover ! It's a single payer for those who buy into the gov plan because they don't have a private plan available .
What would be your system if you were king of America ?
True and not true. I used to work for a British company. We used to see our British counterparts a few times a year. They stated it is a 22% tax after the income tax. It is expensive. You pay the tax whether you have private insurance or not. Most well to do Brits get private insurance and pay the premiums on top of that. They also stated with if you don't have private insurance the long lines are a reality, esp for elective procedures.
The left will never see these downfalls, but the right will never see the positive aspects. No one goes BK over medical bills. You always have access to a doctor even when you are out of work, between jobs or below the poverty line. The many on the right do not view that as a plus, but most people do. Drugs cost next to nothing over there. There are also no co-pays or deductibles.
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First, people do not file bankruptcy for medical bills nearly as much as people claim.
I read all those reports, and the striking thing was that they used any bankruptcy with more than $5,000 of medical debt.
Well, no one files bankruptcy on $5,000. It can cost more than $5,000 just to file. It's not even rational to claim someone would pay $6,000 to avoid $5,000 of debt.
Moreover, if someone had $200,000 in credit card debt, and then owned $5,000 for maternity care.... you wouldn't consider that to be a "medical bankruptcy".
Additionally, they included bankruptcies where they didn't even medical debt, but rather because they missed work because of an illness, and because they missed work, couldn't pay their bills.
Unless you are suggesting no one in the UK or any socialized care country, misses work because of illness.... then that is pointless.
So the Medical Bankruptcy claim is at best questionable.
That said, we on the right wing, we more than understand that health care can be horrendously expensive, and that some may end up bankrupt.
If anything, that's why our opposition to it is even more credible. Do you not think all of us would love to not have to pay for health care? Do you not think all of us would love to not have a insurance premium every month?
Of course we would love to have other people pay our bills. The problem is, it results in bad health care.
See the left-wing has only one real reason for supporting universal health care. Greed.
That's actually the primary reason, whether they admit it or not. They don't want to pay the bill. Greed. I want everything, and I don't want pay for it, or earn it, or work for it. Plain and simple greed.
The right wing, we look at it differently. Would you die for a dollar? That's the trade off.
See, if I am diagnosed, and treated, and healed successfully..... I can earn back everything I lose in bankruptcy.
There are many who were on waiting lists at the VA, who died before getting treatment. Are you sure they are better off because at least they didn't go bankrupt? You can come back from bankruptcy. Many of the worlds most wealthy people came back from bankruptcy.
But I haven't seen a person yet who came back from death. So I ask again. Would you die for a dollar?
