Replace the ACA with single payer

[dblack]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

I was in Lancaster, Pa. a while ago, and the local paper explained how the Amish, who eschew healthcare insurance, either make deals with the local hospitals and pay cash...the same rates that the government gets, or are involved in medical tourism...and fly to Mexico for health related issues.

Their choice....medical tourism over medical totalitarianism.

No way. No one should be allowed health care unless Aetna get's their cut!

 

[francoHFW]

Also, dupe- And that's for 27 year olds- could we just wait til it's implemented? Very scary tho, BSer.

The reality is that, despite these hikes, many Americans won't end up paying more for their insurance, because Obamacare's insurance subsidies cap premiums at a percentage of a family's income. Currently, 85 percent of customers on the exchanges get some sort of assistance. The administration notes that after tax credits, 73 percent of current enrollees will still be able to find a silver plan for less than $100 per month (a little more than half will be able to purchase one for less than $50).

ESPECIALLY 27 years olds!!!!

Did you notice the recent election?
Americans have rejected your Bolshevism.

Did you know that ObamaCare was a program of the Bolsheviks? How'd that work out?

GOP plan, dupe. They voted for TRUMP. Change and the big con...

Is it possible that someday....in the distant future....you may actually attain an education???

Possible????


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately.)
Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_E._Sigerist

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

QED....ObamaCare....Bolshevism redux

After all....it's what Obama believes.



"Dismissing debates about the differences between capitalism, communism and socialism as merely "interesting intellectual arguments," the president told town hall participants not to "worry" about all that, but to just do whatever is "practical."
Obama Explains His View On Capitalism vs. Communism. It's Maddening.

Of course, he's convinced morons like you, huh?

Sorry, health care has to at least organized by the gov't. Forget the Bolshevik crap- it's even dumber than calling the GOP Nazis...

Truly an advance!

First, I catch you lying, and I reveal the truth....

...at least now you're only wrong: a moral step in the right direction.

Considering health costs doubled just under W, the cost curve has bent down, dingbat. But bring on more bs articles/propaganda...27 year olds lol...not.

 

[francoHFW]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

 

[Mac1958]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

Great. Let's go with that. And a $13,000 family cap.

That's my point. Even with premium support, low-income and mid-income families can't afford to use the plan because of its deductibles.
.

 

[francoHFW]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

Great. Let's go with that. And a $13,000 family cap.

That's my point. Even with premium support, low-income and mid-income families can't afford to use the plan because of its deductibles.
.

That's the way plans were going before ACA. Many free tests, cheap doctor visits, and a cap or Medicaid when things go off the rails were added...and ways to llower costs. No more bankruptcies.

 

[WillReadmore]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

Great. Let's go with that. And a $13,000 family cap.

That's my point. Even with premium support, low-income and mid-income families can't afford to use the plan because of its deductibles.
.

Exactly. The ACA has brought insurance to 20M who were previously uninsured. But, it isn't enough.

Every other country provides health care to ALL and yet spends less on health care overall.

It's time we WAKE UP!

What's our excuse?

Why does America have to be worse than everyone else in terms of delivering health care to our citizens?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did you notice the recent election?
Americans have rejected your Bolshevism.

Did you know that ObamaCare was a program of the Bolsheviks? How'd that work out?

GOP plan, dupe. They voted for TRUMP. Change and the big con...

Is it possible that someday....in the distant future....you may actually attain an education???

Possible????


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately.)
Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_E._Sigerist

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

QED....ObamaCare....Bolshevism redux

After all....it's what Obama believes.



"Dismissing debates about the differences between capitalism, communism and socialism as merely "interesting intellectual arguments," the president told town hall participants not to "worry" about all that, but to just do whatever is "practical."
Obama Explains His View On Capitalism vs. Communism. It's Maddening.

Of course, he's convinced morons like you, huh?

Sorry, health care has to at least organized by the gov't. Forget the Bolshevik crap- it's even dumber than calling the GOP Nazis...

Truly an advance!

First, I catch you lying, and I reveal the truth....

...at least now you're only wrong: a moral step in the right direction.

Considering health costs doubled just under W, the cost curve has bent down, dingbat. But bring on more bs articles/propaganda...27 year olds lol...not.

Is it possible that you would ever favor any endeavor that is not under the auspices of big government?

So, which would you be comfortable with, Merry Christmas, or Sieg Heil?


To the point....prior to the Bolshevik program with the eponymous name of the President, nearly 90% of those with insurance were happy with it.

Did you know that?
Well, that is rhetorical....you know less than nothing.

But, it's true.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

 

[easyt65]

Replace the ACA with single payer

According to Harry Reid, that was the Socialists' plan all along - total control of the health care system and the erosion of individual CHOICE.


Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System
Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System

 

[WillReadmore]

Replace the ACA with single payer

According to Harry Reid, that was the Socialists' plan all along - total control of the health care system and the erosion of individual CHOICE.


Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System
Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System

What individual choice are you concerned about losing?

 

[francoHFW]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

BS. Copy the part that shows that. Ridiculous crap....

 

[PoliticalChic]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

BS. Copy the part that shows that. Ridiculous crap....

Aha!

Now I see the problem: you're this dumb because you're this lazy!


I gave you the link.....get off your fat.....you know.

 

[francoHFW]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

BS. Copy the part that shows that. Ridiculous crap....

Aha!

Now I see the problem: you're this dumb because you're this lazy!


I gave you the link.....get off your fat.....you know.

Feq you and the horse you rode in on. lol. Those countries spend 45-55% what we do and have better life spans. Killing and scamming the nonrich is cheaper for the nonrich. . lol

 

[PoliticalChic]

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

And what are the deductibles on these plans being discussed?

$6,000? $10,000? $12,000?

And hospitals are now beginning to require payment of deductible before admission or surgery.

Great stuff there.
.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

BS. Copy the part that shows that. Ridiculous crap....

Aha!

Now I see the problem: you're this dumb because you're this lazy!


I gave you the link.....get off your fat.....you know.

Feq you and the horse you rode in on. lol. Those countries spend 45-55% what we do and have better life spans. Killing and scamming the nonrich is cheaper for the nonrich. . lol

You're simply (and 'simple' is the operative term...) a dunce that you wind up and it give the Leftist talking points.


1. No one has better life spans than America....we're right up there.
Probably means folks are gonna have to put up with you for ages.


a) life expectancy: many people die for reasons that can’t be controlled the medical profession, such as auto accidents, murder, etc., and once you factor out care crashes and homicides, the US ranks number one in worldwide life expectancy!

“One often-heard argument, voiced by the New York Times' Paul Krugman and others, is that America lags behind other countries in crude health outcomes. But such outcomes reflect a mosaic of factors, such as diet, lifestyle, drug use and cultural values. It pains me as a doctor to say this, but health care is just one factor in health.
In The Business of Health, Robert Ohsfeldt and John Schneider factor out intentional and unintentional injuries from life-expectancy statistics and find that Americans who don't die in car crashes or homicides outlive people in any other Western country.
And if we measure a health care system by how well it serves its sick citizens, American medicine excels.
http://www.davepetno.com/blog/index.php?itemid=30

b. And this:
" The standardized estimate of life expectancy at birth is the mean of the predicted value for each country over the period 1980–99. As shown in table 1-5, the raw (not standardized) mean life expectancy at birth for the United States over this period was 75.3 years, compared to 78.7 years for Japan, 78.0 years for Iceland, and 77.7 years for Sweden. However, after accounting for the unusually high fatal-injury rates in the United States, the estimate of standardized life expectancy at birth is 76.9 years, which is higher than the estimates for any other OECD country." http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf


The lies you're trained to spew are designed to grow government.

 

[francoHFW]

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

6k. With 7k cap on out of pocket.

Link?

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

BS. Copy the part that shows that. Ridiculous crap....

Aha!

Now I see the problem: you're this dumb because you're this lazy!


I gave you the link.....get off your fat.....you know.

Feq you and the horse you rode in on. lol. Those countries spend 45-55% what we do and have better life spans. Killing and scamming the nonrich is cheaper for the nonrich. . lol

You're simply (and 'simple' is the operative term...) a dunce that you wind up and it give the Leftist talking points.


1. No one has better life spans than America....we're right up there.
Probably means folks are gonna have to put up with you for ages.


a) life expectancy: many people die for reasons that can’t be controlled the medical profession, such as auto accidents, murder, etc., and once you factor out care crashes and homicides, the US ranks number one in worldwide life expectancy!

“One often-heard argument, voiced by the New York Times' Paul Krugman and others, is that America lags behind other countries in crude health outcomes. But such outcomes reflect a mosaic of factors, such as diet, lifestyle, drug use and cultural values. It pains me as a doctor to say this, but health care is just one factor in health.
In The Business of Health, Robert Ohsfeldt and John Schneider factor out intentional and unintentional injuries from life-expectancy statistics and find that Americans who don't die in car crashes or homicides outlive people in any other Western country.
And if we measure a health care system by how well it serves its sick citizens, American medicine excels.
http://www.davepetno.com/blog/index.php?itemid=30

b. And this:
" The standardized estimate of life expectancy at birth is the mean of the predicted value for each country over the period 1980–99. As shown in table 1-5, the raw (not standardized) mean life expectancy at birth for the United States over this period was 75.3 years, compared to 78.7 years for Japan, 78.0 years for Iceland, and 77.7 years for Sweden. However, after accounting for the unusually high fatal-injury rates in the United States, the estimate of standardized life expectancy at birth is 76.9 years, which is higher than the estimates for any other OECD country." http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf


The lies you're trained to spew are designed to grow government.

Actually, all modern countries spend much less that we do on health care, dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP. The money spent here is ridiculous. The other argument is irrelevant.

 

[basquebromance]

it just doesn't make sense that some folks live and some folks die depending upon their health insurance status.

single payer exists in EVERY major country on earth, except the United States.

there are black-dominated counties in Mississippi and white-dominated counties in Kansas that have no doctors at all. ZERO. it's all across America! SHAME ON YOU AMERICA!

 

[dblack]

Exactly. The ACA has brought insurance to 20M who were previously uninsured. But, it isn't enough.

Every other country provides health care to ALL and yet spends less on health care overall.

See, this, to me, is an extremely troubling development. If you haven't noticed, fascism is creeping back into societies all over the world. If and when it arrives in force, the more power government has, the worse off we'll all be.

 

[basquebromance]

Large, multi-billion dollar corporations should not make billions pushing addictive drugs. They should be investigated and prosecuted.

Drug firms poured 780M painkillers into WV amid rise of overdoses

 

[francoHFW]

Exactly. The ACA has brought insurance to 20M who were previously uninsured. But, it isn't enough.

Every other country provides health care to ALL and yet spends less on health care overall.

See, this, to me, is an extremely troubling development. If you haven't noticed, fascism is creeping back into societies all over the world. If and when it arrives in force, the more power government has, the worse off we'll all be.

Depressions seem to cause that...Thanks GOP. We probably have to wait until ME/Africa economies and status stabilize...

 

[Rustic]

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

There would never be enough time nor space to note all of the things that you don't know...but, here is a pertinent one:
Before ObamaCare, out of pocket costs were less in the US than in single payer nations.


The following ‘Universal Healthcare’ countries have higher out-of-pocket costs than the United States:
Out-of-pocket spending as a share of total expenditure on health, 1980-2000 http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/5/53/22364122.pdf (table 4)
http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/22364122.pdf

Canada, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.


In other words, as usual, you swallowed the scam hook, line, and sinker.

BS. Copy the part that shows that. Ridiculous crap....

Aha!

Now I see the problem: you're this dumb because you're this lazy!


I gave you the link.....get off your fat.....you know.

Feq you and the horse you rode in on. lol. Those countries spend 45-55% what we do and have better life spans. Killing and scamming the nonrich is cheaper for the nonrich. . lol

You're simply (and 'simple' is the operative term...) a dunce that you wind up and it give the Leftist talking points.


1. No one has better life spans than America....we're right up there.
Probably means folks are gonna have to put up with you for ages.


a) life expectancy: many people die for reasons that can’t be controlled the medical profession, such as auto accidents, murder, etc., and once you factor out care crashes and homicides, the US ranks number one in worldwide life expectancy!

“One often-heard argument, voiced by the New York Times' Paul Krugman and others, is that America lags behind other countries in crude health outcomes. But such outcomes reflect a mosaic of factors, such as diet, lifestyle, drug use and cultural values. It pains me as a doctor to say this, but health care is just one factor in health.
In The Business of Health, Robert Ohsfeldt and John Schneider factor out intentional and unintentional injuries from life-expectancy statistics and find that Americans who don't die in car crashes or homicides outlive people in any other Western country.
And if we measure a health care system by how well it serves its sick citizens, American medicine excels.
http://www.davepetno.com/blog/index.php?itemid=30

b. And this:
" The standardized estimate of life expectancy at birth is the mean of the predicted value for each country over the period 1980–99. As shown in table 1-5, the raw (not standardized) mean life expectancy at birth for the United States over this period was 75.3 years, compared to 78.7 years for Japan, 78.0 years for Iceland, and 77.7 years for Sweden. However, after accounting for the unusually high fatal-injury rates in the United States, the estimate of standardized life expectancy at birth is 76.9 years, which is higher than the estimates for any other OECD country." http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/-the-business-of-health_110115929760.pdf


The lies you're trained to spew are designed to grow government.

Actually, all modern countries spend much less that we do on health care, dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP. The money spent here is ridiculous. The other argument is irrelevant.

Too Bad you don't know your ass from a hole ground.... lol