Orban bans free assembly and free association

[TNHarley]

" the Hungarian constitutional amendment has now been passed, with 140 votes in favour and 21 against"
Smell that? Smells like ddddeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmoooooooocccccccccrrrrrrrraaaaaaaccccccccyyyyyyyyy

 

[CowboyTed]

" the Hungarian constitutional amendment has now been passed, with 140 votes in favour and 21 against"
Smell that? Smells like ddddeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmoooooooocccccccccrrrrrrrraaaaaaaccccccccyyyyyyyyy

Well lets look at that not...

There are actually 199 seats in Hungarian Assembly...

Fidesz–KDNP have 135.... So they got 5 over that... Not suprising in a country like Hungary...

This is good news for the opposition, it further solidifies their base...
BTW this is the other law passed
The amendment passed Monday also allows for Hungarians who hold dual citizenship in a non-European Economic Area country to have their citizenship suspended for up to 10 years if they are deemed to pose a threat to public order, public security or national security.

So dual citizens are targeted now..

 

[TNHarley]

Well lets look at that not...

There are actually 199 seats in Hungarian Assembly...

Fidesz–KDNP have 135.... So they got 5 over that... Not suprising in a country like Hungary...

This is good news for the opposition, it further solidifies their base...
BTW this is the other law passed
The amendment passed Monday also allows for Hungarians who hold dual citizenship in a non-European Economic Area country to have their citizenship suspended for up to 10 years if they are deemed to pose a threat to public order, public security or national security.

So dual citizens are targeted now..

dddeeeeeeemmmmmmoooooooccccccccrrrraaaaaaaaaaccccccyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[CowboyTed]

dddeeeeeeemmmmmmoooooooccccccccrrrraaaaaaaaaaccccccyyyyyyyyyyyy

Not really...

Orban is down on the polls and this is laws to supress opposition...

 

[TNHarley]

Not really...

Orban is down on the polls and this is laws to supress opposition...

Yes, thats exactly what it is.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Frankeneinstein]

This is not acceptable in western europe. Its just a tactic to eliminate thee gay community.
Should the EU kick them out ? Its a big step. More useful would be stopping EU funding for Hungary.
Its a poor country anyway and can ill afford that.
There are signs that the Hungarians are growing tired of the nazi Orban.
If they want to enjoy the fruits of liberal democracy they need to become a liberal democracy.
This will be coming to the US soon as trump dismantles the structures of democracy.

First Greece decides who is unfit now Hungaria, nice road the EU is going down tommy don't ya think?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Either you are free or you arent.

Our second amendment is proof of that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Our second amendment is proof of that.

Your lack of a first amendment is proof you are now a nazi state. Cant criticise trump or you are locked up.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Your lack of a first amendment is proof you are now a nazi state.

I'm pretty sure it is europe that lacks a first and second amendment tommy, not the U.S.

Cant criticise trump or you are locked up.

And yet criticizing Trump is now a 24/7 phenomenon here in the states [as it should be] while challenging the second amendment is gospel in the media/lefts european version of freedom.

Your inability to understand that the new worlds embrace of real freedom was borne out of the rejection of europe and its oppressive ways...gun laws are borne out of a distrust of the populace.

 

[CowboyTed]

Kind of happens when they are bombing civilian areas at night which is a war crime....

Russian policy is to kill civilians in a hope they quit... Problem is, Ukraine saw what happened in Russian taken villages with the mass graves...

This woman was probably taken away for her own safety...

 

[CowboyTed]

I'm pretty sure it is europe that lacks a first and second amendment tommy, not the U.S.

And yet criticizing Trump is now a 24/7 phenomenon here in the states [as it should be] while challenging the second amendment is gospel in the media/lefts european version of freedom.

Your inability to understand that the new worlds embrace of real freedom was borne out of the rejection of europe and its oppressive ways...gun laws are borne out of a distrust of the populace.

Trump put marines on the streets of America... Enough said...

It wasn't requested by local or state police.

This is what dictators do.

 

[Deadstick]

Kind of happens when they are bombing civilian areas at night which is a war crime....

Russian policy is to kill civilians in a hope they quit... Problem is, Ukraine saw what happened in Russian taken villages with the mass graves...

This woman was probably taken away for her own safety...

As usual you have it arse about, Ukraine has targeted civilians since they started the war back in 2014, they are also using apartments as drone factories, meanwhile thousands of dead Ukrainian soldiers are being prevented by Zelenskey from being sentto Ukraine by the Russians because he would have to pay over $2billion to the families of the dead, much better in his bank account.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Trump put marines on the streets of America... Enough said...

Of course you would feel it's "enough said", to comment further would lead to the contradictory position of/by the left/media/white liberals that he was persecuted [more accurately prosecuted] for not doing it on J6.

It wasn't requested by local or state police.

Making it a default decision/position...personally I disagree with these actions [as I am a Gavin Newsome supporter and will vote for him in the next election]...but the fact that you needed to direct the conversation in this direction and away from europes decision to take away yet another choice that in a true democracy is best left to the voters is what speaks volumes here.

 

[luiza]

Hungary passes constitutional amendment banning Pride and restricting rights – as it happened

Amendment passes with 140 votes in favour and 21 against despite disruption in the chamber as rights campaigners say it chips away at human rights

www.theguardian.com

This is not acceptable in western europe. Its just a tactic to eliminate thee gay community.
Should the EU kick them out ? Its a big step. More useful would be stopping EU funding for Hungary.
Its a poor country anyway and can ill afford that.
There are signs that the Hungarians are growing tired of the nazi Orban.
If they want to enjoy the fruits of liberal democracy they need to become a liberal democracy.
This will be coming to the US soon as trump dismantles the structures of democracy.

Anything which helps silence Mutantslike you is of great benefit to the oppressed majority .

 

[CowboyTed]

Of course you would feel it's "enough said", to comment further would lead to the contradictory position by the left/media/white liberals that he was persecuted [more accurately prosecuted] for not doing it on J6.

Making it a default decision/position...personally I disagree with these actions [as I am a Gavin Newsome supporter and will vote for him in the next election]...but the fact that you needed to direct the conversation in this direction and away from europes decision to take away yet another choice that in a true democracy is best left to the voters is what speaks volumes here.

US Citizens feel they need guns because their leaders put army on the streets...

EU Citizens don't need guns as their countries would never use their army to control their populations...

I will say, EU armies just wouldn't do it... They would all call in sick, which is a basic **** you to the government...
Europe is smaller and has a lot of history and know that history...

I think we are kind of making the same point...

 

[Frankeneinstein]

US Citizens feel they need guns because their leaders put army on the streets...

That came about when the europeans were the leaders.

EU Citizens don't need guns as their countries would never use their army to control their populations...

perhaps, but that then makes the point in question all the more necessary for you to answer... what is the reason then not having the right to bear arms?

I will say, EU armies just wouldn't do it... They would all call in sick, which is a basic **** you to the government...

but that's true of them in every confrontation

Europe is smaller and has a lot of history and know that history...

smaller than what/who? why is that a reason? and europe is bloodiest continent in the history of the planet.

I think we are kind of making the same point...

You have actually side stepped the point by refusing to acknowledge that free people are the ones who have the right to own arms, not the ones who are denied that right for whatever reason you care to give.

 

[hadit]

Your lack of a first amendment is proof you are now a nazi state. Cant criticise trump or you are locked up.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Feelz don't cut it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Feelz don't cut it.

Come back when you can criticise trump or Israel.

 

[hadit]

Come back when you can criticise trump or Israel.

"Cant criticise trump or you are locked up."

Prove it. Give some names.