America’s Future Is Hungary

[C_Clayton_Jones]

WE WON THE ELECTION. AGAIN. We get a turn.

If we never get a turn, even when we win, that is not a free country. THAT IS TYRANNY.


You might want to think about what happens, when you make peaceful change impossible.

Trump of course cannot implement his fascist agenda alone – he had the help of those who voted for him, those ignorant, stupid, and frightened; fear in particular, fascism thrives where there’s fear.

 

[kyzr]

Trump of course cannot implement his fascist agenda alone – he had the help of those who voted for him, those ignorant, stupid, and frightened; fear in particular, fascism thrives where there’s fear.

Democrt policies are moronic. Newsom called them toxic. You obviously don't understand politics.

 

[Correll]

Trump of course cannot implement his fascist agenda alone – he had the help of those who voted for him, those ignorant, stupid, and frightened; fear in particular, fascism thrives where there’s fear.

If REPUBLICANS never get to "implement their agenda", even when we win, because your side abuses the courts and/or other institutions to RESIST,

then explain to me how elections mean anything and how this is free country.

 

[August West]

The atlantic is a liberal rag full of propaganda, lies, hyperbole. No thanks.

Liberal yes, but they`re fact checkers that rate very high for factual reporting.

The Atlantic - Bias and Credibility

LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording

mediabiasfactcheck.com

Are they a rag because they use those big college type words?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I recently saw a montage of MAGAists praising Orban. Bannon, Meadows, Gosar, it was chilling. And of course we know Tucker Carlson wants to be adopted by him. BTW, is Tucker still alive?

Too flexible?
The 1980s called, eh comrade?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Trump is flouting the rule of law. He refuses to be held accountable to the Courts OR the Constitution

And yes… the Courts ARE the arbiter of what is legal and Constitutional

The Constitution Was Written by Politicians for Politicians

The "Rule of Law" is the rule of lawyers. The courts, lawyers who couldn't make it in private practice, declared themselves sole rulers over the law.

What if a President had to go through the intentionally obstructive process of an Amendment in order to veto a bill, and the same for Congress to override it? That's how overwhelmingly powerful the Judicial Branch claims as its rights.

 

[22lcidw]

Well, I am aware you feel you must reflexively discredit all critics of Dear Leader. But get back to me when you can provide some evidence for your beliefs.

Europe has many nations with different ethnic backgrounds. They have condemned themselves to future internal conflicts with their immigration agendas. Hungary lived under communism. They remember. And see warnings from other nations that may have eventual internal social problems from their agendas.

 

[berg80]

Hopefully we can follow Poland's example and pull back from trump's autocracy, not Hungary's slide in to Orban's.

To Save Democracy, Here’s a Playbook That Works​

Poland pulled back from an authoritarian slide. What can the U.S. learn from its nonpartisan approach?

Opinion | To Save Democracy, the U.S. Should Take a Page From Poland’s Playbook

Poland pulled back from an authoritarian slide. What can the U.S. learn from its nonpartisan approach?

www.nytimes.com

I wanted to learn about the Polish experience, so today I am happy to be speaking to Aleksandra Gliszczynska-Grabias. She’s a law professor and author in Poland. Her country elected a populist right-wing government back in 2015, and she’s part of the rule of law coalition that fought back for democracy. She joins me today from Warsaw.

Aleksandra, thank you so much for joining me.

Aleksandra Gliszczynska-Grabias: Thank you very much for having me.

French: Let’s start with context. So the Law and Justice Party takes power in 2015. Could you describe what the Law and Justice party is and what were the conditions that led to it taking power?

Gliszczynska-Grabias: Well, up until now, the discussions continue of how did it actually happen? The Law and Justice party, which is a right-wing, populist movement and political party, how did it happen that they came to power, and took it in a way that later on translated into actually, full scale attack on the rule of law and constitutional order? There were many conditions that actually allowed Law and Justice to rise to power. Back at that time, 2015, the refugee crisis, the discussions about the future and security in Europe where on the rise.

So it’s still quite disputed, why it happened. But it happened in a way that struck all of us at that time. And for sure, the pro-democratic pro-rule of law side, we were not aware of what was coming and we were also not prepared with the response towards what was then happening here.

French: So I’ve heard the term constitutional crisis used to describe the conditions in the United States, but I’ve also heard similar types of terms being used to describe, say, the conditions in Poland when Law and Justice took over, that there was an attack on the rule of law. How did that unfold? When did you become aware that the rule of law was actually under threat in Poland under Law and Justice?

Gliszczynska-Grabias: I believe that right from the beginning, the Law and Justice party, came with the narratives that said something like, “Poland first,” and also narratives that stressed the notion of “Poland is rising from its knees,” which meant that actually now we won’t be bound by the rules of the European Union and other democratic countries. The rules of conduct will now be the great proud nation.