Removing The Burden Of America’s Original Sin

[Eric Arthur Blair]

When Native Americans arrived in the North America there WERE NO people here.

Every heard of Kennewick Man? We just can't say if there was anyone here or not.

 

[Lesh]

Every heard of Kennewick Man? We just can't say if there was anyone here or not.

] but it was not until 2013 that ancient DNA analysis techniques had improved enough to shed light on the remains. In June 2015, it was announced that Kennewick Man had the most genetic similarity among living peoples to Native Americans, including those in the Columbia River region where the skeleton was found.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Every heard of Kennewick Man? We just can't say if there was anyone here or not.

You beat me to it.

They are so ignorant.

 

[PoliticalChic]

] but it was not until 2013 that ancient DNA analysis techniques had improved enough to shed light on the remains. In June 2015, it was announced that Kennewick Man had the most genetic similarity among living peoples to Native Americans, including those in the Columbia River region where the skeleton was found.

It's a political lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

14. Could those European’s have ‘stolen’ the land from its original owners?

Not only did those ‘original owners’ not have a concept of ownership…..but the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent. The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America, as much visitors as the Europeans were at a later time.



“The United States often has functioned like a great eugenics program in the moral and political sphere. It has allowed people to reverse the accidents of birth that would have kept them enslaved in lower forms of life, into an advanced realm of consciousness that now sees them existing as co-equals with their compatriots. This viewpoint is predicated on the fact that not all cultures are equal, and not all forms of life establish optimal conditions for human flourishing.

This viewpoint is controversial in that it holds that not all forms of conquest are evil. Conquest that eventually improves the conditions of those living below the threshold of a certain understanding of what it means to be a full-fledged human being constitutes a moral good. We measure the contributions an action does in striving for a moral good against the harm it does in achieving that good.

Today we may say that very little—if any—of the earth is in the hands of its original owners. The entire earth has changed ownership several times.”
Genocide, Stolen Land, and Other Lies about America - Frontpagemag

 

[Resnic]

The very idea of original sin for America is short sighted and dumb. It has absolutely nothing at all in any way, shape, or form to do with america today. What happened 200 years ago doesn't not even begin to come into play today.

None of us alive today had nothing to do with what happened a couple hundred years ago and hold no responsibility. And no one alive today had anything to do with it and do not deserve anything because of what happened hundreds of years ago.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The very idea of original sin for America is short sighted and dumb. It has absolutely nothing at all in any way, shape, or form to do with america today. What happened 200 years ago doesn't not even begin to come into play today.

None of us alive today had nothing to do with what happened a couple hundred years ago and hold no responsibility. And no one alive today had anything to do with it and do not deserve anything because of what happened hundreds of years ago.

"The very idea of original sin for America is short sighted and dumb. It has absolutely nothing at all in any way, shape, or form to do with america today."

Only an imbecile would claim this.

The original sin charges, by the Democrats/Left/Progressives/Liberals is the reason so many government school grads hate America.


And it is the basis of Critical Race Theory poisoning American children.



Take the blinders off.

 

[PoliticalChic]

15. It is of interest that Cassius Clay/Mohammad Ali made a similar observation about the evil of slavery:

“In the early 1970s Muhammad Ali fought for the heavyweight title against George Foreman. The fight was held in the African nation of Zaire; it was insensitively called the "rumble in the jungle." Ali won the fight, and upon returning to the United States, he was asked by a reporter, "Champ, what did you think of Africa?" Ali replied, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"
…for all the horror of slavery, it was the transmission belt that brought Africans into the orbit of Western freedom.”
Source: Dinesh D'Souza quote #1761571




Professor Jason D. Hill put it this way:

“…the African indigene made himself into a slave by adhering to a primitive, philosophic belief in animism (an enslavement to a cyclical, biological, and zoomorphic identification with nature and the animal world) and the absence of a conception of an appreciation for the intrinsic dignity and inviolate moral worth of the individual human being as a human being. In other words, the sub-Saharan bushman had no conception of the inviolability and intrinsic value of human life and no political ideology or moral system that could fight the onslaught of slavery.

The African indigene regarded himself as part of nature. The European, endowed with a Christian sensibility, saw himself as separate and apart from nature and viewed it not as a friend but as a phenomenon to be exploited—a thing that would adapt itself to meet his needs and desires. The African positioned as indistinguishable from nature, and the European viewed him as such.

The indigene, living outside the historical process, sentimentalized nature and adapted himself to it like all cyclical creatures who are, therefore, incapable of technological, spiritual, and cognitive evolution on a par with Western man.

Nevertheless, slavery was an egregious evil. Yet, in placing the African body into bondage and transporting it into the New World, European man simultaneously placed that body inside the historical process, and there began a torturous and painful induction into that process for those who came out of sub-Saharan Africa.”

Hill in no way says slavery was good….he points out that it had a result that in left out of the discussion.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You beat me to it.

They are so ignorant.

I think it may say something that local Indians staged a long, long legal battle to possess the bones of Kennewick man and have already reburied his skeleton ending the scientific inquiry about the remains
of a human who lived in the Pacific Northwest long before other people were around.

Kennewick man doubtlessly crossed the Bering land bridge from Eur/Asia to North America.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think it may say something that local Indians staged a long, long legal battle to possess the bones of Kennewick man and have already reburied his skeleton ending the scientific inquiry about the remains
of a human who lived in the Pacific Northwest long before other people were around.

Kennewick man doubtlessly crossed the Bering land bridge from Eur/Asia to North America.

Not just local Indians.....the battle was led by Democrats.....Clinton.

I've long since given up judging science as science.....not if it somehow fits the narrative that supports the Left.

The Wuhan is a case in point.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

] but it was not until 2013 that ancient DNA analysis techniques had improved enough to shed light on the remains. In June 2015, it was announced that Kennewick Man had the most genetic similarity among living peoples to Native Americans, including those in the Columbia River region where the skeleton was found.

Nevertheless you claimed there were no humans in North America before the Native Americans.
You were plainly wrong, by quite a lot, The First Americans
and now that Kennewick Man has been reburied somewhere
that's a link to the past we cannot research anymore.

Science and history was not served well by the courts in this matter.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Not just local Indians.....the battle was led by Democrats.....Clinton.

I've long since given up judging science as science.....not if it somehow fits the narrative that supports the Left.

The Wuhan is a case in point.

Clearly science, like everything else, has been co-opted by the left.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Clearly science, like everything else, has been co-opted by the left.

 

[alang1216]

This seems like a real over statement. The world was built on slavery. So what is the point?
How much "freedom" is there in taking prisoners of war and making slaves out of them?

Yes. Serfs were tied to their land lords. White tenant farmers worked at the same time as slaves,
slaves in practice if not in name, only a small step up from actual slaves.

Doesn't sound like a dramatic difference between the two cultures beyond the technology.

I wonder why you doubt this? What evidence do you have to the contrary?

New Study Says Ancient Humans Hunted Big Mammals To Extinction

As humans spread around the globe, other big mammals vanished. Researchers believe it's because they were tasty.

www.npr.org

I look forward to your apology. I really do.

I look forward to your apology:

Climate change likely drove the extinction of North America's largest animals​

Date:February 16, 2021
Source:Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology
Summary: A new study suggests that the extinction of North America's largest mammals was not driven by over-hunting by rapidly expanding human populations following their entrance into the Americas. Instead, the findings, based on a new statistical modelling approach, suggest that populations of large mammals fluctuated in response to climate change, with drastic decreases of temperatures around 13,000 years ago initiating the decline and extinction of these massive creatures.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Doesn't sound like a dramatic difference between the two cultures beyond the technology.

Regardless of how things "sound" to you have yet to explain how making the losers of tribal wars (of
which there were many, over the millennia) into slaves expresses the "freedom" you have claimed
is a feature of Native American culture.

Did I miss it when we made members of the Confederacy into slaves after winning the Civil War?
Please clarify your non justified claims. Thanks.

I look forward to your apology:

Climate change likely drove the extinction of North America's largest animals​

Date:February 16, 2021
Source:Max Planck Institute for Chemical Ecology
Summary: A new study suggests that the extinction of North America's largest mammals was not driven by over-hunting by rapidly expanding human populations following their entrance into the Americas. Instead, the findings, based on a new statistical modelling approach, suggest that populations of large mammals fluctuated in response to climate change, with drastic decreases of temperatures around 13,000 years ago initiating the decline and extinction of these massive creatures.

More likely Indian tribes that learned they could stampede large beasts by the tens of thousands
over cliffs and to their deaths on the rocks below.

Buffalo jump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is great evidence for these events, like bone depositories by the tens of thousands and
Indian oral histories describing these "bison jumps" .

Certainly more evidence then the Max Planck Institute hypothesizing climate change killing off
large fur bearing mammals (fur bearing mammals being a key clue).

 

[Bezukhov]

GA law on a citizens arrest requires that they witness a felony being committed.

So, russian dude, did they?

12. “For centuries Native Americans had the land and did virtually nothing with it; that is, in terms of emancipating themselves from an animistic biological and cyclical lifestyle. The notion of progress lay unknown to them. They existed outside the historical process.


Tragically, it took conquest -- facilitated by the Europeans — to transplant the indigene into the historical process by inserting him into the civilization crucibles of Judeo-Christendom, with its emancipatory moral narratives and an evolving political philosophy that discovered, recognized and protected the inalienable rights of man. These include freedom and liberty, the right to the pursuit of happiness, freedom of conscience and speech, the right to bodily integrity, and the right to property.” Genocide, Stolen Land, and Other Lies about America - Frontpagemag


Human life meant no more than that of any animal.....pretty much the view of the Democrat Party today.




. It is not possible that the Europeans 'stole' the land from the American Indians.

Before the concepts were thrust upon them, American Indians had no idea of capitalism, private property, or the sanctity of human life.
Before ‘capitalism’ was brought to the continent, there was no benefit to ‘ownership’ of land.
And, with no idea of ‘private property,’ outside of a few kitchen implements and weapons, they ‘owned’ no land that could have been ‘stolen’ from them.
The demand for certain assets by the settlers illuminated the necessity of ‘private property’ to the Indians.

It was capitalism that led to private property, ownership, and prosperity.

You brought up the subject of "Judeo-Christendom". Now I have to ask: Did Jesus approve of what White Christian Europeans did while they colonized the rest of the world?

 

[Lesh]

It's a political lie.

Christ you're an idiot

 

[Lesh]

Nevertheless you claimed there were no humans in North America before the Native Americans.

Kennewick Man had the same DNA AS Native Americans. They were one in the same

 

[PoliticalChic]

You brought up the subject of "Judeo-Christendom". Now I have to ask: Did Jesus approve of what White Christian Europeans did while they colonized the rest of the world?

I'm reading an interesting book which touches on that very topic.

If you follow my threads over the next few weeks/months, I may be answering that very question.


But if you want a head start....

Here is some of the answer.

“But why would the African indigene allow himself to engage in this type of degrading transactional relationship in which cheap costume jewelry and tawdry goods were used in exchange for the lives of human beings? This book begins the examination of culpability and moral responsibility by looking at how the African indigene made himself into a slave by adhering to a primitive, philosophic belief in animism (an enslavement to a cyclical, biological, and zoomorphic identification with nature and the animal world) and the absence of a conception of an appreciation for the intrinsic dignity and inviolate moral worth of the individual human being as a human being.

In other words, the sub-Saharan bushman had no conception of the inviolability and intrinsic value of human life and no political ideology or moral system that could fight the onslaught of slavery.



The African indigene regarded himself as part of nature. The European, endowed with a Christian sensibility, saw himself as separate and apart from nature and viewed it not as a friend but as a phenomenon to be exploited—a thing that would adapt itself to meet his needs and desires. The African positioned as indistinguishable from nature, and the European viewed him as such. Concomitantly, as part of the expression of the Western personality, the European exploited that manifestation of nature and adapted it to meet his needs. The indigene, living outside the historical process, sentimentalized nature and adapted himself to it like all cyclical creatures who are, therefore, incapable of technological, spiritual, and cognitive evolution on a par with Western man.” Jason D. Hill, “What-Do-White-Americans-Owe-Black-People-Racial-Justice-in-the-Age-of-Post-Oppression”



It was religion that fought slavery, and took its cue in Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image

 

[PoliticalChic]

Kennewick Man had the same DNA AS Native Americans. They were one in the same

False.

....as is everything else you've been tricked into supporting.



Here are 30 more examples.


Democrats lie about everything….on what basis would any of their fabricated data be considered valid???
Here the prism through which every Democrat pronouncement should be viewed: First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, “HandsUpDon’tShoot,”Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the Kavanaugh hoax, the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....and “More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son."



Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie. How stupid must one be to keep believing what they say?
...and, and that ‘armed insurrection’ that never occurred, and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol. And, of course the 275 Democrat inspired riots were ‘mostly peaceful.’

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. They lie about everything.......yet Democrat voters are, ready to swallow the next lie.

And that the Wuhan Red Death did not come from a Chinese Communist lab that got its funding via Dr. Fauci, and its purpose was to remove Trump….

FakeStories: Three years of Russian Collusion stories; altering documents at the DoJ and FBI to railroad political opponents; the state media burying the Hunter Biden Scandal what with Joe getting 10% of the bribes; stories about Kavanaugh rape parties, and Covington Catholic School; Carter Page working for Russia when he was actually working for the CIA….where were those ‘fact checkers’? The great lie that there was an ‘insurrection’ January 6th. The lie that it was Republicans who wanted to defund the police. The lie that Critical Race Theory wasn’t being ta,00ught. The lie that 600,000 died from the Wuhan Red Death.
What should you do when they lied to you at least these 30 times already???????????

Democrats claimed it was Republicans who demanded defunding the police, AOC claimed ten people were killed Jan6th, Ilhan Omar blames the police for crime, they claimed that CRT wasn’t being taught in government school, ....