Question about WW2..

[Ringo]

Who told you that?

30 million is nothing. I saw on US TV how two experts with smart faces argued about how many Stalin killed, whether it was 100 million or 150 million. The principle of Dr. Goebbels' propaganda “А lie must be huge, then it will be believed” is successfully used in capitalist propaganda since childhood and what a person heard at an early age is very difficult to correct later, because this Goebbels propaganda is oriented on feelings, not on facts.

 

[Zebra]

Because Hitler thought he knew better than the generals. Remind you of anyone?

whonis he?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yes they did but you made a ridiculous statement in your prior post, that had nothing to do with this point.

You claimed if Eastern European nations were democracies prior to WWII, they wouldn’t have suffered under Nazism or Soviet Communism. What proof do you have to support this theory?

You must know some of these nations where democracies, albeit in name only and mostly nonfunctional and corrupt.

No I didn't. Post my statement saying that.

 

[MisterBeale]

lol It was Russia who was saved, by Churchill and FDR. Russians are famous for their delusions and idiotic propaganda narratives. It's still the 1950's in Moscow.

World War II Every Day with Army Sizes​

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0:00 - Germany Invades Poland0:07 - USSR Invades Eastern Poland
0:14 - Poland Seizes to Exist as a country
0:34 - USSR attacks Finland in what would be called the 'Winter War'
1:24 - Germany invades Denmark, Norway
1:35 - Invasion of France and Beneleux Countries
1:49 - Italy joins the war against France and UK
1:49 - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania Annexed by USSR
1:52 - France Surrenders
1:53 - USSR Annexes Bessarabia
2:22 - Italian Libya attacks Egypt which is Ruled by the United Kingdom
2:40 - Italian Albania attacks Greece, a small push is there
2:45 - Italian Push is halted
2:47 - Greek Counterattack against Italy
2:50 - Hungary Joins Axis
2:50 - Romania Joins Axis
3:11 - USSR offers to join Axis Powers, but its declined (text given)
3:12 - A counter-attack in Africa by British Egypt
3:26 - Bulgaria joins Axis Powers
3:35 - Yugoslavia join Axis Powers
3:37 - They withdraw from Axis Powers, as the Fascist Government is removed
3:41 - Yugoslavia join Allies, Axis invade the country
3:44 - Yugoslavia Surrenders
3:45 - British Troops exacuvate Greece as the country is invaded and occupied by the Axis Powers.
3:46 - Italian Push into Egypt
3:46 - The Allies invade Iraq to limit oil imports
3:57 - Operation Barbarossa is almost ready...
4:00 - Iraq capitulates
4:01 - Vichy-France controlled Syria and Lebanon are invaded by the allies.
4:09 - Germany and Axis Powers invade USSR, the largest invasion in history. (3 million troops)
4:10 - Finland joins Axis powers
5:13 - Japan attacks Pearl Harbour. USA joins the war, in side of the allies.
5:14 - The Red Army makes a counter-offensive against axis
6:28 - There is a german offensive towards the Causcases, to get Oil.
7:19 - Allies invade large parts of Africa, which is controlled by Vichy-France, A german puppet state
7:24 - In the Battle of Stalingrad, 400,000 german troops are surrendered; A.K.A. the 6th Army.
7:26 - Axis Soldiers withdraw from the region.
7:43 - A huge push into Libya
7:53 - Only Tunisia is left, for north african land of Axis Powers
8:51 - Allies invade italy
9:12 - Italy Surrenders after another attack, but is quickly taken again from German Troops
9:13 - Allies continue invading Italy, USSR slowly makes a counter-offensive
10:31 - USSR Troops reach Romanian Border
10:54 - 'Operation Overlord' successfully works. Allies invade German France
11:05 - 'Operation Bagration' is a success. Large amounts of land are captured.
11:28 - Romania Captiluates; Paris liberates
11:34 - Bulgaria Captiluates
11:36 - Finland signs a peace treaty
11:45 - Allied Soldiers land on coast of Greece
12:14 - The Battle of the Buldge
12:43 - Allies enter German Lands
12:44 - USSR Soldiers capture Vienna
12:54 - Berlin is captured
13:00 - Germany's Ruler __13:02 - Germany Uncontrolably surrenders.
13:05 - WORLD WAR II ENDS.

 

[MisterBeale]

Because he wanted peace with the UK. He tried repeatedly after Dunkirk to obtain a peace agreement with the UK. The warmongering drunken fool Churchill said fuck off.

Of course. Why would Churchill surrender, when the policies of the west forced Germany and their citizens into the situation that started WWII?

They were also complicit in orchestrating the origins of WWI.

It has always been about the Royals and aristocracy in Britain maintaining their control over the world, and the global economy.

 

[Picaro]

You might want to educate yourself on WWII, before posting.

You might want to quit pretending you know stuff.

 

[Picaro]

World War II Every Day with Army Sizes​

38,510,634 views Mar 14, 2022


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0:00 - Germany Invades Poland0:07 - USSR Invades Eastern Poland
0:14 - Poland Seizes to Exist as a country
0:34 - USSR attacks Finland in what would be called the 'Winter War'
1:24 - Germany invades Denmark, Norway
1:35 - Invasion of France and Beneleux Countries
1:49 - Italy joins the war against France and UK
1:49 - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania Annexed by USSR
1:52 - France Surrenders
1:53 - USSR Annexes Bessarabia
2:22 - Italian Libya attacks Egypt which is Ruled by the United Kingdom
2:40 - Italian Albania attacks Greece, a small push is there
2:45 - Italian Push is halted
2:47 - Greek Counterattack against Italy
2:50 - Hungary Joins Axis
2:50 - Romania Joins Axis
3:11 - USSR offers to join Axis Powers, but its declined (text given)
3:12 - A counter-attack in Africa by British Egypt
3:26 - Bulgaria joins Axis Powers
3:35 - Yugoslavia join Axis Powers
3:37 - They withdraw from Axis Powers, as the Fascist Government is removed
3:41 - Yugoslavia join Allies, Axis invade the country
3:44 - Yugoslavia Surrenders
3:45 - British Troops exacuvate Greece as the country is invaded and occupied by the Axis Powers.
3:46 - Italian Push into Egypt
3:46 - The Allies invade Iraq to limit oil imports
3:57 - Operation Barbarossa is almost ready...
4:00 - Iraq capitulates
4:01 - Vichy-France controlled Syria and Lebanon are invaded by the allies.
4:09 - Germany and Axis Powers invade USSR, the largest invasion in history. (3 million troops)
4:10 - Finland joins Axis powers
5:13 - Japan attacks Pearl Harbour. USA joins the war, in side of the allies.
5:14 - The Red Army makes a counter-offensive against axis
6:28 - There is a german offensive towards the Causcases, to get Oil.
7:19 - Allies invade large parts of Africa, which is controlled by Vichy-France, A german puppet state
7:24 - In the Battle of Stalingrad, 400,000 german troops are surrendered; A.K.A. the 6th Army.
7:26 - Axis Soldiers withdraw from the region.
7:43 - A huge push into Libya
7:53 - Only Tunisia is left, for north african land of Axis Powers
8:51 - Allies invade italy
9:12 - Italy Surrenders after another attack, but is quickly taken again from German Troops
9:13 - Allies continue invading Italy, USSR slowly makes a counter-offensive
10:31 - USSR Troops reach Romanian Border
10:54 - 'Operation Overlord' successfully works. Allies invade German France
11:05 - 'Operation Bagration' is a success. Large amounts of land are captured.
11:28 - Romania Captiluates; Paris liberates
11:34 - Bulgaria Captiluates
11:36 - Finland signs a peace treaty
11:45 - Allied Soldiers land on coast of Greece
12:14 - The Battle of the Buldge
12:43 - Allies enter German Lands
12:44 - USSR Soldiers capture Vienna
12:54 - Berlin is captured
13:00 - Germany's Ruler __13:02 - Germany Uncontrolably surrenders.
13:05 - WORLD WAR II ENDS.

Thy had to be supplied with everything by us and the Brits, even their fuel boosters and gunpowder. They used human wave attacks out of the barbarian hordes of 2,000 B.C. even with Lend-lease pouring in. Gantz has an essay on all the battles they lost, requiring 3 or more assaults to overcome, many to 12 year old kids and old men, that they conveniently leave out of their histories. They acheived air superiority only because Hitler had to strip the east of planes and anti-aircraft guns to use against the Allied bombing campaigns. They were pathetic then as they are now. They merely the hired help, and just a mob.

Te U.S. and Brits inflicted higher casualties per man than the Russians when on the ground in D-Day and Anzio, while the Russian relied almost exclusively on mass human waves. lol They outnumber Ukrainians 4 to one and they can't drive them out of Russia.

 

[Ringo]

Thy had to be supplied with everything by us and the Brits, even their fuel boosters and gunpowder.

Idiot, 90% of Lend Lease went to England. And despite that the USSR, not England, destroyed 80% of the nazi divisions.

 

[Deadstick]

Thy had to be supplied with everything by us and the Brits, even their fuel boosters and gunpowder. They used human wave attacks out of the barbarian hordes of 2,000 B.C. even with Lend-lease pouring in. Gantz has an essay on all the battles they lost, requiring 3 or more assaults to overcome, many to 12 year old kids and old men, that they conveniently leave out of their histories. They acheived air superiority only because Hitler had to strip the east of planes and anti-aircraft guns to use against the Allied bombing campaigns. They were pathetic then as they are now. They merely the hired help, and just a mob.

Te U.S. and Brits inflicted higher casualties per man than the Russians when on the ground in D-Day and Anzio, while the Russian relied almost exclusively on mass human waves. lol They outnumber Ukrainians 4 to one and they can't drive them out of Russia.

You sound really pissed off the Germans lost.

 

[Deadstick]

Idiot, 90% of Lend Lease went to England. And despite that the USSR, not England, destroyed 80% of the nazi divisions.

The idiot is brainwashed.

 

[Picaro]

You sound really pissed off the Germans lost.

Rubbish. Your commies were just a mob, and you don' like anybody to know it.

 

[Picaro]

Idiot, 90% of Lend Lease went to England. And despite that the USSR, not England, destroyed 80% of the nazi divisions.

Not according to the public record and your own Generals, dipshit.

 

[Picaro]

Of course. Why would Churchill surrender, when the policies of the west forced Germany and their citizens into the situation that started WWII?

They were also complicit in orchestrating the origins of WWI.

It has always been about the Royals and aristocracy in Britain maintaining their control over the world, and the global economy.

You conspiracy kidz just get weirder and weirder.

 

[Deadstick]

Not according to the public record and your own Generals, dipshit.

We only just finished paying it back a few years ago, and you are still talking Bollocks!!

 

[gipper]

You conspiracy kidz just get weirder and weirder.

The truth is often considered a conspiracy by ignorant people, which is why the ruling class love ignorant people.

 

[Deadstick]

The truth is often considered a conspiracy by ignorant people, which is why the ruling class love ignorant people.

Indeed many a time they turn out to be real conspiracies.

 

[Deadstick]

The truth is often considered a conspiracy by ignorant people, which is why the ruling class love ignorant people.

I am looking forward to see how they are going to spin this conspiracy theory.

Inquiry into Novichok poisoning of Dawn Sturgess to start

The inquiry will examine the circumstances leading to Ms Sturgess' death from a nerve agent.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[MisterBeale]

You conspiracy kidz just get weirder and weirder.

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[MisterBeale]

Thy had to be supplied with everything by us and the Brits, even their fuel boosters and gunpowder. They used human wave attacks out of the barbarian hordes of 2,000 B.C. even with Lend-lease pouring in. Gantz has an essay on all the battles they lost, requiring 3 or more assaults to overcome, many to 12 year old kids and old men, that they conveniently leave out of their histories. They acheived air superiority only because Hitler had to strip the east of planes and anti-aircraft guns to use against the Allied bombing campaigns. They were pathetic then as they are now. They merely the hired help, and just a mob.

Te U.S. and Brits inflicted higher casualties per man than the Russians when on the ground in D-Day and Anzio, while the Russian relied almost exclusively on mass human waves. lol They outnumber Ukrainians 4 to one and they can't drive them out of Russia.

Soon after the civil war, among the American ruling political, intellectual and cultural elite, it became very fashionable for those in the ruling class to identify themselves as, "anglophiles."

It didn't matter if it was from the right with Teddy, or from the left with Woodrow. They all fell in line with the bullshit fawning over the Empire.



It mattered very little to them, that we had fought two wars against the crown, or that the British government tried to destroy the union by supporting the confederacy.


And when the upper class finds it fashionable to be something, the middle classes necessarily will seek to emulate them.

This was, really, the end of America, when it forgot its roots - ANTI-MONARCHY.

Go read your Thomas Paine's "Common Sense," the most well read book by Americans other than the Bible to remember who your real enemy is.

. . . and for land's sake, stop being a loyalist.


Unless of course you are from Britain or a Common Wealth nation. If that is the case? Your traitorous attitude, can of course be forgiven.


The fact is, Churchill and the clandestine service knew America would be pulled into a foreign policy that our founders were against. He was busy orchestrating it in conjunction with traitorous American ruling elites. THAT is the conspiracy.

 

[AZrailwhale]

We only just finished paying it back a few years ago, and you are still talking Bollocks!!

No payment was due for Lend-Lease supplies as long as they were returned, destroyed in combat, or destroyed at the end of the war. What you just finished paying off were the LOANS the USA made to your government.