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You idiot, Russian Merc's started the war in Donbas in 2014 and keep shooting at Ukrainian forces so damned right Ukrainian units keep shooting back.There will be a Ukraine partition, the Nazis are driven from Donbas and the shelling of those people stopped, NATO understands some of the lengths Russia will go to keep Ukraine and Georgia out. Costly and unremarkable win for Russia.
Oh there's certainly logic to it. His intent is to murder as much of the civilian Ukrainian population as possible then flood the country with Russians in their place to expedite the fall of the rest of the country in a decade or so.So, you're rootin' for Putin. Isn't it wonderful to see all the destruction and dead women and children - for no logical reason.
That's actually pretty standard Russian propaganda.I never knew Russian victory could be announced when Russian forces are retreating.
They haven't achieved any of their stated strategic goals. They've failed to take either Mariupol or Odessa and lost most of their amphibious ships necessary to conduct such operations, failed to secure Kyiv, Karkiv, Donbas, Donetsk, Zaporizhiza, Kerson, or Mykolaiv.Who announced it and their retreat is strategic since they are nearly done achieving their main objective in East Ukraine where that was the objective all along?
If he had control of it the fighting would not have continued now for almost a full decade.He already has control of the main Donbass area according to Wikipedia:
"In March 2014, following the Euromaidan protest movement and the resulting Revolution of Dignity, large swaths of the Donbas became gripped by pro-Russian and anti-government unrest. This unrest later grew into a war between Ukrainian government forces and Russian and pro-Russian separatists affiliated with the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk "People's Republics", who were supported by Russia as part of the broader Russo-Ukrainian War, which is still ongoing as of 2022. Both republics went internationally unrecognised until their recognition by Russia in 2022."
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Map from Reuters.
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Russia is winning along with Pro-Russian forces that controls parts of the region.
www.wkrg.com
You're quoting Kremlin Propaganda nearly word for word here with no evidence of any kind to support your accusations.I appreciate your general liberal view point, but you are dead wrong on this.
The Ukraine not only is guilty of stealing over $20 billion in oil and gas, murdering over 14,000 ethnic Russian civilians, violating treaties, trying to NATO nukes on Russia's border, etc., but also is the one who broke off negotiations, thus effectively declaring war.
The Ukraine is not innocent or nice.
It historically is a combination of the Tzars Cossacks, and traditional Polish aristocracy, which ravaged the whole area during the "Taras Bulba" era. And let us not forget that Ukrainians were notorious for running Hitler's death camps, like Demjanjuk at Sobibor.
And let us not forget that Ukrainians were notorious for running Hitler's death camps, like Demjanjuk at Sobibor.
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Russia is winning on all fronts.
I made a much more detailed post elsewhere, but here I'll just make the statement for the discussion to be broader. Putin is winning because:
Putin isn't trying to look like a good guy, he's just showing the world that the US Empire is geriatric and led by losers who can't do anything but harm 3rd world countries who need to get oil and food and fertilizer from somewhere.
- He's forcing the EU to break with the US on sanctions.
- Forcing the EU to stop using Euros/Dollars to pay for oil
- Showed the world the US is the real bad guy by:
- Showing the world that the US will weaponize its Dollar to harm you.
- Showing the world that the US will weaponize SWIFT to harm you.
- Showing the world that the US is a paper tiger and can't do anything to save you from Russia or China.
And the US can't provide those essentials to anyone, the US is as flaccid a cock as Joe Biden's. And Biden did that...Biden exposed the weakness for all to see.
Putin is smashing through Ukraine and smashing through the Eurodollar.
All across the world these ripple effects are happening fast.
The list goes on....
- India buys Russian Oil
- Saudi Arabia is selling Oil in Yuan
- Saudi Arabia says Biden is destroying the US Empire
- Egypt is abandoning Dollar for Yen due to Russian pressure
Russia is winning on all fronts.
That is silly.
Not only did NATO want to put nukes in Poland and Latvia, they DID put them in Poland for awhile, until Poland finally asked them to remove them.
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NATO Threatens Russia with Nukes soon to be placed in Poland | EUTimes.NET ⚡ Hidden Story ⚡
As the US ambassador to Germany – and acting spy chief – tried persuading Berlin to keep hosting US nuclear weapons, his colleague in Warsaw suggested Polandwww.eutimes.net
NATO Threatens Russia with Nukes soon to be placed in Poland
Posted by EU Times on May 16th, 2020
As the US ambassador to Germany – and acting spy chief – tried persuading Berlin to keep hosting US nuclear weapons, his colleague in Warsaw suggested Poland would be willing to take them instead, an act sure to provoke Moscow.
“If Germany wants to diminish nuclear capability and weaken NATO, perhaps Poland – which pays its fair share, understands the risks, and is on NATO’s eastern flank – could house the capabilities here,” Ambassador Georgette Mosbacher tweeted on Friday.
She was commenting on the statement by Rick Grenell, the US ambassador to Germany who is also the acting director of National Intelligence, issued on Thursday, urging the authorities in Berlin not to weaken NATO by seeking the removal of US nuclear weapons from their soil.
“The purpose of NATO’s nuclear share is to keep non-nuclear member states involved in the planning of NATO’s deterrence policy. Germany’s participation in nuclear share ensures that its voice matters,” Grenell wrote. “Will Germany bear this responsibility, or will it sit back and simply enjoy the economic benefits of security provided by its other allies?”
While Mosbacher’s quip may have been nothing more than an attempt to bolster Grenell’s argument, her replies were flooded by Poles eager for the nuclear redeployment to happen – albeit none of them representing official Warsaw, just yet.
Only a few voices cautioned against the idea, such as former US Marine and weapons inspector Scott Ritter telling Mosbacher she had “no sense of history” and calling her idea “one of the dumbest” in the world.
Mosbacher also made headlines in Moscow, where it was noted that moving the bombs to Poland would destroy the final vestiges of the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the 1997 treaty which declares that “NATO and Russia do not consider each other as adversaries.”
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f the US moves nuclear warheads to Poland, this could result in a rerun of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, when the Soviet Union reacted to US nuclear deployments in Turkey by sending its own missiles to Cuba. After a standoff that almost escalated into nuclear war, both Washington and Moscow stood down and pledged to withdraw their missiles.
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Wrong.
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'Ukrainians guards took part in extermination'
At Demjanjuk trial, Holocaust survivor says Ukrainian guards outnumbered Nazis 10-to-1 at Sobibor camp.www.jpost.com
'Ukrainians guards took part in extermination'
At Demjanjuk trial, Holocaust survivor says Ukrainian guards outnumbered Nazis 10-to-1 at Sobibor camp.
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Ukrainian guards outnumbered Nazi SS men 10-to-one at the Sobibor death camp, but they fell strictly under the Germans' authority, a Jewish survivor testified Wednesday at the trial of John Demjanjuk.
Ukrainian-born Demjanjuk, an 89-year-old retired Ohio autoworker, is accused of serving as a low-level guard at the camp in occupied Poland and is charged with accessory to murder in 27,900 deaths. It is the first time a conviction has been sought against someone so low-ranking without proof of a specific offense. Demjanjuk rejects the charges, saying he never served in Sobibor or any other Nazi camp.
Witness Thomas Blatt, 82, has told the Munich state court he did not remember Demjanjuk from Sobibor, where he was a prisoner in 1943. In his first day of testimony Tuesday, however, Blatt said that if Demjanjuk was there, he would have been involved in the extermination of Jews.
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No, it was Ukrainians who ran Hitler's death camps, NOT Russians.
Nuremberg was selected as the venue for all war crimes trials after the war for quite some time.Only to inform you: About 40% of the members of the SS not had been Germans in the 194x (time of the Holocaust). As far as I know Demjanjuk had been the only one of them who had been arrested. Reason: It was cheaper for the USA to bring this man to Germany instead to punish him on their own. And another information: Many Poles got the German citizenship after they had been conquered in world war 2.
Nuremberg was selected as the venue for all war crimes trials after the war for quite some time.
It had nothing to do with being cheaper to try Nazis in German than to bring them here.
Like the US inflation and Unconditional Surrender of Afghanistan, Biden's handling of Russia is orchestrated by his America haters Masters and owners who pull Biden's strings. They need to end America during Biden's remaining tenureI made a much more detailed post elsewhere, but here I'll just make the statement for the discussion to be broader. Putin is winning because:
Putin isn't trying to look like a good guy, he's just showing the world that the US Empire is geriatric and led by losers who can't do anything but harm 3rd world countries who need to get oil and food and fertilizer from somewhere.
- He's forcing the EU to break with the US on sanctions.
- Forcing the EU to stop using Euros/Dollars to pay for oil
- Showed the world the US is the real bad guy by:
- Showing the world that the US will weaponize its Dollar to harm you.
- Showing the world that the US will weaponize SWIFT to harm you.
- Showing the world that the US is a paper tiger and can't do anything to save you from Russia or China.
And the US can't provide those essentials to anyone, the US is as flaccid a cock as Joe Biden's. And Biden did that...Biden exposed the weakness for all to see.
Putin is smashing through Ukraine and smashing through the Eurodollar.
All across the world these ripple effects are happening fast.
The list goes on....
- India buys Russian Oil
- Saudi Arabia is selling Oil in Yuan
- Saudi Arabia says Biden is destroying the US Empire
- Egypt is abandoning Dollar for Yen due to Russian pressure
Russia is winning on all fronts.
And again, Nuremburg was selected as the site for all of the war crimes trials and both Camps in Ukraine were under German command and German Commanders.Demjanjuk never had been a citizen of Germany. And the federal republic of Germany is not Nazi-Germany. As far as I remember we had to change basic laws of Germany to make possible the political wish of the USA to let punish your citizen Mr. Demjanjuk in Germany.
The first "offer to aide" Ukraine that Biden made was to try and buy off Zelensky leaving the country leaderless and a quick surrender.Like the US inflation and Unconditional Surrender of Afghanistan, Biden's handling of Russia is orchestrated by his America haters Masters and owners who pull Biden's strings. They need to end America during Biden's remaining tenure
And again, Nuremburg
was selected as the site for all of the war crimes trials and both Camps in Ukraine were under German command and German Commanders.
Demjanjuk was a guard, not the commander.
The first "offer to aide" Ukraine that Biden made was to try and buy off Zelensky leaving the country leaderless and a quick surrender.
Who said the war was over?The western world offeres all Ukrainians a save place when they will have to flee. War's not over.
You're quoting Kremlin Propaganda nearly word for word here with no evidence of any kind to support your accusations.
Don't think it goes unnoticed.
THis of course is just an outright lie, the camps were run by German officers and part of their guard detachments were Ukrainians. But at no point were Ukrainians running the camps.
The Ukrainians were in a horrible postion stuck between the Russians who had been slaughtering them by the tens of thousands since the 30's and the Germans who had driven the Russians out of Ukraine and were their "liberators".
There was no freedom to "choose" either, you either surrendered to the Germans and helped them or your people were to be executed.
According to The Simon Wiesenthal Center (in January 2011) "Ukraine has, to the best of our knowledge, never conducted a single investigation of a local Nazi war criminal, let alone prosecuted a Holocaust perpetrator."[11]A number of Ukrainians had collaborated: According to German historian Dieter Pohl, around 100,000 joined police units that provided key assistance to the Nazis. Many others staffed the local bureaucracies or lent a helping hand during mass shootings of Jews. Ukrainians, such as the infamous Ivan the Terrible of Treblinka, were also among the guards who manned the German Nazi death camps.[10]
