My take on the Wuhan Virus

[Picaro]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

 

[beagle9]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death. Worse every positive test counts as someone actually sick. The stories have gotten totally out of the realm of sanity. Every day is a new symptom. We're now up to demonic possession.

They gotta play it to the hilt. They got an election to win, an economy to destroy, a global meltdown crisis to avert, and all the free crap they can promise by way of our hard earned money to give out for votes. How can they go wrong ?

 

[beagle9]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

 

[ABikerSailor]

They gotta play it to the hilt. They got an election to win, an economy to destroy, a global meltdown crisis to avert, and all the free crap they can promise by way of our hard earned money to give out for votes. How can they go wrong ?

Trump is the one who is handing out hard earned taxpayer money for votes, not the Democrats.

 

[beagle9]

They gotta play it to the hilt. They got an election to win, an economy to destroy, a global meltdown crisis to avert, and all the free crap they can promise by way of our hard earned money to give out for votes. How can they go wrong ?

Trump is the one who is handing out hard earned taxpayer money for votes, not the Democrats.

You wish you could spin it like that, but everyone knows the truth. The Democrat's are foaming at the mouth right now, and all one has to do is watch the blatant differences in the news reporting.

You immediately recognize the slant when you are watching liberal leftist news, because the huge biased left leaning slant is undeniable. Seconds into it, and it hits you right in the face like a hammer. Leftist probably say the same about conservative news channels, but who is the most believable, and who is the most unbiased when reporting the news of the day to the whole of the nation ? I think conservative news is the most balanced when reporting the news of the day.

One can turn to a leftist biased network news channel, and the Trump hatred just pours off of their lips like foaming rabid spit, but that's all it is, it's pure hatred and nothing more. They feel so sorry for their underdogs Obama, Hillary, Biden, and etc. Pathetic.

 

[CowboyTed]

They gotta play it to the hilt. They got an election to win, an economy to destroy, a global meltdown crisis to avert, and all the free crap they can promise by way of our hard earned money to give out for votes. How can they go wrong ?

Trump is the one who is handing out hard earned taxpayer money for votes, not the Democrats.

You wish you could spin it like that, but everyone knows the truth. The Democrat's are foaming at the mouth right now, and all one has to do is watch the blatant differences in the news reporting.

You immediately recognize the slant when you are watching liberal leftist news, because the huge biased left leaning slant is undeniable. Seconds into it, and it hits you right in the face like a hammer. Leftist probably say the same about conservative news channels, but who is the most believable, and who is the most unbiased when reporting the news of the day to the whole of the nation ? I think conservative news is the most balanced when reporting the news of the day.

One can turn to a leftist biased network news channel, and the Trump hatred just pours off of their lips like foaming rabid spit, but that's all it is, it's pure hatred and nothing more. They feel so sorry for their underdogs Obama, Hillary, Biden, and etc. Pathetic.

Sorry but who insisted on signing he checks....

 

[fncceo]

In America, 250,000 people die every year from medical mistakes. Wrong diagnosis, improper treatment, drug errors, hospital acquired infections. It is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

Is it possible that at least a few of those deaths blamed on Corona could have been medical mistakes?

 

[CowboyTed]

In America, 250,000 people die every year from medical mistakes. Wrong diagnosis, improper treatment, drug errors, hospital acquired infections. It is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

Is it possible that at least a few of those deaths blamed on Corona could have been medical mistakes?

Then explain the excess deaths...

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

These have the total 40%+ higher...

 

[Picaro]

Now the Democrats are holding up their own relief bill until everybody agrees to give criminal illegal aliens the same amounts as legal citizens get. California is already promising the criminals some $75 million of the funds they're getting from the Feds. They're vote buying, and rounding up their base to fill out all those mail in ballots they have planned to steal the election with.

 

[Picaro]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

And, have you noticed that those people who don't want to wear masks in the store, as soon as they are told, the first thing they do is holler about their rights being taken away because they have to wear a mask.

Hey............................I thought store owners had the right to say who could and couldn't come into their stores. They also have the right to refuse service to whomever they wish. Remember when conservatives were cheering because the baker didn't have to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, because it went against their religion? Well, if the store owners want to make people wear masks to keep their workers safe and reassure the other customers that the store is safe to shop in, let them enforce a mask policy and to hell with whoever tries to break it.

I thought conservatives were all about letting business owners do their own thing, free capitalism and all that.

 

[blackhawk]

It is a viral contagion that makes about one in 10 people have serious symptoms, one in 100 sick enough to seek medical treatment and one in 1,000 die prematurely. It's principal danger is to older people with preexisting conditions who are susceptible to pneumonia-like infections. The actual threat to the general population is minimal.

Agree/disagree? (Please explain.)

This does seem to be the case there are exceptions there always will be the biggest problem with this virus is so many on all sides trying to use it to push a political agenda.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

And, have you noticed that those people who don't want to wear masks in the store, as soon as they are told, the first thing they do is holler about their rights being taken away because they have to wear a mask.

Hey............................I thought store owners had the right to say who could and couldn't come into their stores. They also have the right to refuse service to whomever they wish. Remember when conservatives were cheering because the baker didn't have to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, because it went against their religion? Well, if the store owners want to make people wear masks to keep their workers safe and reassure the other customers that the store is safe to shop in, let them enforce a mask policy and to hell with whoever tries to break it.

I thought conservatives were all about letting business owners do their own thing, free capitalism and all that.

I wear a mask when I go to a store that requires it. I usually hold it open or do what others do and pull it down. I feel like I'm suffocating. I pay no attention to the one way aisles. Neither does anyone else.

This is all going to go away as people get done with the nonsense.

 

[Picaro]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

And, have you noticed that those people who don't want to wear masks in the store, as soon as they are told, the first thing they do is holler about their rights being taken away because they have to wear a mask.

Hey............................I thought store owners had the right to say who could and couldn't come into their stores. They also have the right to refuse service to whomever they wish. Remember when conservatives were cheering because the baker didn't have to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, because it went against their religion? Well, if the store owners want to make people wear masks to keep their workers safe and reassure the other customers that the store is safe to shop in, let them enforce a mask policy and to hell with whoever tries to break it.

I thought conservatives were all about letting business owners do their own thing, free capitalism and all that.

I agree with all of that; if you don't like the store policies, don't shop there, go somewhere else. They can require shoes and shirts, then they can require masks and whatever.

 

[CowboyTed]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

New York right now has a daily growth rate the same as South Korea, it took them time to get a hold of it but the have it down at the moment...

Rule of thumb worldwide is

• Daily Growth under 0.5%
• Ability to test 2% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

New York is

• Daily Growth under 0.4%
• Is testing 1.4% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

I say New York is good for open..

Now lets look at Texas:

• Daily Growth 2.5%
• Is testing 0.5% of the population a week
• Positive tests 5.7% (approx)

This is not a red or blue thing, these are the facts...

There are places in Texas which do meet the target numbers but you would have to restrict travel between them and is that really feasible?

 

[Meister]

Removed from the CDZ forum, did not follow the CDZ Forum guidelines.

 

[Picaro]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

New York right now has a daily growth rate the same as South Korea, it took them time to get a hold of it but the have it down at the moment...

Rule of thumb worldwide is

• Daily Growth under 0.5%
• Ability to test 2% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

New York is

• Daily Growth under 0.4%
• Is testing 1.4% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

I say New York is good for open..

Now lets look at Texas:

• Daily Growth 2.5%
• Is testing 0.5% of the population a week
• Positive tests 5.7% (approx)

This is not a red or blue thing, these are the facts...

There are places in Texas which do meet the target numbers but you would have to restrict travel between them and is that really feasible?

Texas cases are of course concentrated in cities with a lot of international travel plus large minority populations. That being said, Texas is a long way from New York's numbers of infections, plus we know probably a million New Yorkers fled the city, particularly lower Manhattan. Texas has some 51,600 cases to New York's 354,000 and New Jersey's 152,000. 0.004 x 502,000 = 2,000 + new infections daily, while .025 x 51,000 =1,300 new infections a day. New York has 20 million people, Texas has 29 million.

Assuming we actually had the real numbers, which we don't.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

New York right now has a daily growth rate the same as South Korea, it took them time to get a hold of it but the have it down at the moment...

Rule of thumb worldwide is

• Daily Growth under 0.5%
• Ability to test 2% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

New York is

• Daily Growth under 0.4%
• Is testing 1.4% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

I say New York is good for open..

Now lets look at Texas:

• Daily Growth 2.5%
• Is testing 0.5% of the population a week
• Positive tests 5.7% (approx)

This is not a red or blue thing, these are the facts...

There are places in Texas which do meet the target numbers but you would have to restrict travel between them and is that really feasible?

Texas cases are of course concentrated in cities with a lot of international travel plus large minority populations. That being said, Texas is a long way from New York's numbers of infections, plus we know probably a million New Yorkers fled the city, particularly lower Manhattan. Texas has some 51,600 cases to New York's 354,000 and New Jersey's 152,000. 0.004 x 502,000 = 2,000 + new infections daily, while .025 x 51,000 =1,300 new infections a day. New York has 20 million people, Texas has 29 million.

Assuming we actually had the real numbers, which we don't.

Are you sure about that? I live in Amarillo, up here in the TX panhandle, and there has been a large increase in cases up here over the past couple of weeks. And, it wasn't due to international travel or large minority populations, most of the cases we have had came from the meat processing plants around here.

 

[beagle9]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

New York right now has a daily growth rate the same as South Korea, it took them time to get a hold of it but the have it down at the moment...

Rule of thumb worldwide is

• Daily Growth under 0.5%
• Ability to test 2% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

New York is

• Daily Growth under 0.4%
• Is testing 1.4% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

I say New York is good for open..

Now lets look at Texas:

• Daily Growth 2.5%
• Is testing 0.5% of the population a week
• Positive tests 5.7% (approx)

This is not a red or blue thing, these are the facts...

There are places in Texas which do meet the target numbers but you would have to restrict travel between them and is that really feasible?

Texas cases are of course concentrated in cities with a lot of international travel plus large minority populations. That being said, Texas is a long way from New York's numbers of infections, plus we know probably a million New Yorkers fled the city, particularly lower Manhattan. Texas has some 51,600 cases to New York's 354,000 and New Jersey's 152,000. 0.004 x 502,000 = 2,000 + new infections daily, while .025 x 51,000 =1,300 new infections a day. New York has 20 million people, Texas has 29 million.

Assuming we actually had the real numbers, which we don't.

Are you sure about that? I live in Amarillo, up here in the TX panhandle, and there has been a large increase in cases up here over the past couple of weeks. And, it wasn't due to international travel or large minority populations, most of the cases we have had came from the meat processing plants around here.

Oh those plants China owns or the ones working all that cheap labor if that was the case ?? Supporting all that globalism is tough these days, but the nation grinds forward under the strain of it all.

 

[CowboyTed]

The biggest problem is every death is now a Wuflu death.

That too, which is why nobody should pay attention to the ideologues on either wing, and take reasonable precautions for the time being.

Precautions are one thing, but this thing has gotten way, way out of line.

yes, in many places; but in NYC and some other places they need more than what they've got now, and they need to be able to enforce some basic rules, since 'voluntary compliance' only works with adults; look at the tards around the country assaulting kids workoing in stores for doing their jobs and asking them to don masks, as if store owners have no rights to set standards for their own property. Those gimps are even further out of line.

New York right now has a daily growth rate the same as South Korea, it took them time to get a hold of it but the have it down at the moment...

Rule of thumb worldwide is

• Daily Growth under 0.5%
• Ability to test 2% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

New York is

• Daily Growth under 0.4%
• Is testing 1.4% of the population a week
• Positive tests <1%

I say New York is good for open..

Now lets look at Texas:

• Daily Growth 2.5%
• Is testing 0.5% of the population a week
• Positive tests 5.7% (approx)

This is not a red or blue thing, these are the facts...

There are places in Texas which do meet the target numbers but you would have to restrict travel between them and is that really feasible?

Texas cases are of course concentrated in cities with a lot of international travel plus large minority populations. That being said, Texas is a long way from New York's numbers of infections, plus we know probably a million New Yorkers fled the city, particularly lower Manhattan. Texas has some 51,600 cases to New York's 354,000 and New Jersey's 152,000. 0.004 x 502,000 = 2,000 + new infections daily, while .025 x 51,000 =1,300 new infections a day. New York has 20 million people, Texas has 29 million.

Assuming we actually had the real numbers, which we don't.

Agreed on the real numbers v testing numbers... More testing the more reliable...

This isn't a slight on Texas and I said if they can contain the bad areas then the contained areas can get less restrictions...

The story of looking at daily growth percentage tells if the virus is expanding or contracting... New York is definitely contracting even with higher numbers.

If Texas doesn't turn this they will have as many cases as New York in 70 days and by pass New York in 80 days... So they have time but they need to react... By the way if this gets into rural communities it can be terrible, older people with less services..

For Texas they have to make the choice get a lid on it or let it grow... Texas have been sitting on about 2-3% daily growth for a month...