Michael Flynn played himself in court

[Skylar]

Was Podesta registered to lobby on behalf of Sberbank CIB USA, or not?

In March [2016], the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

I'm still waiting for the link to Flynn's illegal activities.

It looks like one of those 'fire and forget' accusations. Where they make shit up. And then flee from their own accusation.

 

[BWK]

Flynn's own attorneys admitted, in court, that Flynn wasn't entrapped.

You're just huffing conspiracy batshit on this one. There was no entrapment. Flynn admits his guilt. You're literally ignoring Michael Flynn on Michael Flynn's crimes........and replacing his admissions with your own imagination.

That's not how the law works, Flac.

That's not how the "law" works. That's how "plea deals" work. Mueller was threatening to ruin Flynn's son's life as well. He had no choice. He was financially tapped out. So Mueller can load any horseshit claims onto the plea deals and the victims have 2 choices..

1) Agree to cooperate and plead guilty to the WHOLE pile of shit and deny any FBI abuse OR

2) Shoot himself in the head like Vince Foster did when he was targeted by a special counsel.

Same reason that "campaign finance" charge was loaded on top of Cohens indictments. So Mueller can put words into his mouth and play him like a wooden dummy.. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS....

And again, entrapment has a very legal definition. Ambush -- does not. And AMBUSH is what happened to PapaDop and Caputo and OTHERS when they were "dirtied up" by a full-on Intel operation coordinated thru Halper in England. ANYTHING they "KNEW" about Russian interference was PLANTED on them COVERTLY by this cabal of CIA assets working them over BEFORE ANY INVESTIGATION began.

No one really cares if he was ambushed. There is no requirement to warn a criminal before you catch him. We just want to make sure he wasnt entrapped. He said in court he wasnt. Everything else is just noise.

Not about "warning" him. Although if charges were even CONTEMPLATED, it should have been an OFFICIAL deposition so that TRANSCRIPTS and RECORDINGS would be available.

But instead a bigger question of WHY they were even trotting into the WHouse just days after the transition. Comey was asked that question yesterday and made up some bullshit excuse about the Logan Act.

Comey got LAUGHED at for that. The Logan act doesn't even APPLY to persons authorized to participate in foreign relations and affairs.. They had NO REASON to ambush him with intel acquired thru spying on an opposition political campaign. That's a LOT more important than whether he was "warned" or ambushed.

Before you continue to bait and troll, take a minute.. Give me a legitimate LEGAL reason for that ambush in the 1st days of the White House...

Who told you it should have been an official deposition? Law enforcement doesnt always find out youre a criminal by deposition. Sometimes they work on hunches.

Just because you dont like my comments that hurt your feelings dont claim I am trolling.

Do they generally giggle about suspect comments like "Do I need a lawyer for this"???

Almost ALL of Mueller "plea deals" about lying to the FBI came out of encounters with no recordings or transcripts. Didn't even GET to a "criminal investigation" level because it WASN'T a criminal investigation for PapaDop or Flynn or Page or most of the others.

They were SET-UP by spying on the campaign with NSA assets used for terrorists and foreign spies. And all they had to do was flush them out into a lie. Even if that LIE -- like in Flynns case is COMPLETELY arguable.

The "lie" was in response to a question about "discussing sanctions".. Flynn said no. And embellished it to add that he was ASKED about sanctions by the Russian and told him QUOTE "We're not gonna discuss sanctions until the actual transistion"... That's IT.. THAT's what they HAD... And the agents present said they "thought Flynn was telling the truth"... Deal with it...

Where do you imbeciles come from? Do you not understand that most of what you are saying has absolutely no relationship with the truth? I mean seriously, how damn stupid can you be? How can you make the claim there is no criminal investigation, when the investigation is not over? And what is your evidence that Flynn didn't discuss sanctions with the Russians during the transition, when Flynn admitted lying about that? Your counter arguments are bombarded with lies and made up scenarios. You are here for the sole purpose to lie. Get the hell out of here.

 

[Skylar]

That's not how the "law" works. That's how "plea deals" work. Mueller was threatening to ruin Flynn's son's life as well. He had no choice. He was financially tapped out. So Mueller can load any horseshit claims onto the plea deals and the victims have 2 choices..

1) Agree to cooperate and plead guilty to the WHOLE pile of shit and deny any FBI abuse OR

2) Shoot himself in the head like Vince Foster did when he was targeted by a special counsel.

Same reason that "campaign finance" charge was loaded on top of Cohens indictments. So Mueller can put words into his mouth and play him like a wooden dummy.. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS....

And again, entrapment has a very legal definition. Ambush -- does not. And AMBUSH is what happened to PapaDop and Caputo and OTHERS when they were "dirtied up" by a full-on Intel operation coordinated thru Halper in England. ANYTHING they "KNEW" about Russian interference was PLANTED on them COVERTLY by this cabal of CIA assets working them over BEFORE ANY INVESTIGATION began.

No one really cares if he was ambushed. There is no requirement to warn a criminal before you catch him. We just want to make sure he wasnt entrapped. He said in court he wasnt. Everything else is just noise.

Not about "warning" him. Although if charges were even CONTEMPLATED, it should have been an OFFICIAL deposition so that TRANSCRIPTS and RECORDINGS would be available.

But instead a bigger question of WHY they were even trotting into the WHouse just days after the transition. Comey was asked that question yesterday and made up some bullshit excuse about the Logan Act.

Comey got LAUGHED at for that. The Logan act doesn't even APPLY to persons authorized to participate in foreign relations and affairs.. They had NO REASON to ambush him with intel acquired thru spying on an opposition political campaign. That's a LOT more important than whether he was "warned" or ambushed.

Before you continue to bait and troll, take a minute.. Give me a legitimate LEGAL reason for that ambush in the 1st days of the White House...

Who told you it should have been an official deposition? Law enforcement doesnt always find out youre a criminal by deposition. Sometimes they work on hunches.

Just because you dont like my comments that hurt your feelings dont claim I am trolling.

Do they generally giggle about suspect comments like "Do I need a lawyer for this"???

Almost ALL of Mueller "plea deals" about lying to the FBI came out of encounters with no recordings or transcripts. Didn't even GET to a "criminal investigation" level because it WASN'T a criminal investigation for PapaDop or Flynn or Page or most of the others.

They were SET-UP by spying on the campaign with NSA assets used for terrorists and foreign spies. And all they had to do was flush them out into a lie. Even if that LIE -- like in Flynns case is COMPLETELY arguable.

The "lie" was in response to a question about "discussing sanctions".. Flynn said no. And embellished it to add that he was ASKED about sanctions by the Russian and told him QUOTE "We're not gonna discuss sanctions until the actual transistion"... That's IT.. THAT's what they HAD... And the agents present said they "thought Flynn was telling the truth"... Deal with it...

Where do you imbeciles come from? Do you not understand that most of what you are saying has absolutely no relationship with the truth? I mean seriously, how damn stupid can you be? How can you make the claim there is no criminal investigation, when the investigation is not over? And what is your evidence that Flynn didn't discuss sanctions with the Russians during the transition, when Flynn admitted lying about that? Your counter arguments are bombarded with lies and made up scenarios.

Republicans have been conditioned to believe that if something feels true, it is true. That their emotions are facts. That any conspiracy they imagine is evidence that the conspiracy is true.

Its how Trump got elected. He out batshitted the GOP.

 

[BWK]

Was Podesta registered to lobby on behalf of Sberbank CIB USA, or not?

In March [2016], the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

I'm still waiting for the link to Flynn's illegal activities.

It looks like one of those 'fire and forget' accusations. Where they make shit up. And then flee from their own accusation.

Cut and run like the cowards that they are.

 

[BWK]

No one really cares if he was ambushed. There is no requirement to warn a criminal before you catch him. We just want to make sure he wasnt entrapped. He said in court he wasnt. Everything else is just noise.

Not about "warning" him. Although if charges were even CONTEMPLATED, it should have been an OFFICIAL deposition so that TRANSCRIPTS and RECORDINGS would be available.

But instead a bigger question of WHY they were even trotting into the WHouse just days after the transition. Comey was asked that question yesterday and made up some bullshit excuse about the Logan Act.

Comey got LAUGHED at for that. The Logan act doesn't even APPLY to persons authorized to participate in foreign relations and affairs.. They had NO REASON to ambush him with intel acquired thru spying on an opposition political campaign. That's a LOT more important than whether he was "warned" or ambushed.

Before you continue to bait and troll, take a minute.. Give me a legitimate LEGAL reason for that ambush in the 1st days of the White House...

Who told you it should have been an official deposition? Law enforcement doesnt always find out youre a criminal by deposition. Sometimes they work on hunches.

Just because you dont like my comments that hurt your feelings dont claim I am trolling.

Do they generally giggle about suspect comments like "Do I need a lawyer for this"???

Almost ALL of Mueller "plea deals" about lying to the FBI came out of encounters with no recordings or transcripts. Didn't even GET to a "criminal investigation" level because it WASN'T a criminal investigation for PapaDop or Flynn or Page or most of the others.

They were SET-UP by spying on the campaign with NSA assets used for terrorists and foreign spies. And all they had to do was flush them out into a lie. Even if that LIE -- like in Flynns case is COMPLETELY arguable.

The "lie" was in response to a question about "discussing sanctions".. Flynn said no. And embellished it to add that he was ASKED about sanctions by the Russian and told him QUOTE "We're not gonna discuss sanctions until the actual transistion"... That's IT.. THAT's what they HAD... And the agents present said they "thought Flynn was telling the truth"... Deal with it...

Where do you imbeciles come from? Do you not understand that most of what you are saying has absolutely no relationship with the truth? I mean seriously, how damn stupid can you be? How can you make the claim there is no criminal investigation, when the investigation is not over? And what is your evidence that Flynn didn't discuss sanctions with the Russians during the transition, when Flynn admitted lying about that? Your counter arguments are bombarded with lies and made up scenarios.

Republicans have been conditioned to believe that if something feels true, it is true. That their emotions are facts. That any conspiracy they imagine is evidence that the conspiracy is true.

Its how Trump got elected. He out batshitted the GOP.

Hard to tell the difference between Trump supporters and a flock of Sheep.

 

[BWK]

Was Podesta registered to lobby on behalf of Sberbank CIB USA, or not?

In March [2016], the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

And this has what to do with anything?

 

[badger2]

Does BWK believe the Tass report, or not? BWK would have fits to think about Gulen, Clinton, and chew gum at the same time. No, dipshit, we have been busy on another thread. Do you have the stones to visit it?

 

[Skylar]

Does BWK believe the Tass report, or not? BWK would have fits to think about Gulen, Clinton, and chew gum at the same time. No, dipshit, we have been busy on another thread. Do you have the stones to visit it?

And what does that have to do with your claims about Podesta being linked to Flynn's 'illegal behavior'?

I mean, if even you are going to abandon the conspiratorial nonsense you spew....surely you can understand why 'we' have no use for it either.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I thought this would be about a Perry Mason episode.

Except it wasn't. It was about Michael Flynn, Trump, and all his goons betrayed their oath of office and replaced that oath for their own interests at the expense of the tax payers and Trumps own Sheep.

Get a sense of humor. Or have someone explain the joke to you.

 

[candycorn]

Ari Melber: Michael Flynn played himself in court

Can you believe how stupid this guy is? Flynn shows up to court today, only to float around his arrogance in the face of getting no prison sentence. Flynn is not guaranteed no prison time, and when Flynn started pushing his weight around with the judge, the judge took Flynn out to the wood shed, reminding Flynn of the attack he mounted against this country. And when reminded of his criminal activity, and that the judge didn't agree with the the recommendation of no jail time by Mueller, Flynn walked everything he said back. Flynn walked back the notion that he didn't lie to the FBI when he did. Lol! When cornered, Flynn is nothing more than a traitor and a coward to this country.

Not sure what "played himself" meant. But the only conspiracy theory that hasn't been floated by the Trump supporters is that there were body doubles meeting with Russians and the Trumps and their cronies were never there.

I'm sure it will happen at some point.

 

[Olde Europe]

Was Podesta registered to lobby on behalf of Sberbank CIB USA, or not?

In March [2016], the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

And this has what to do with anything?

Good question, but how am I supposed to know? The badger doesn't seem willing to explain himself coherently.

But then, the pattern isn't all that hard to discern.

The issue is: Flynn is corrupt.

The response is:

Strzok bad!!

FBI bad!!

Mueller bad!!

Law enforcement bad!!

Rosenstein bad!!

Hillary bad!!

McCabe bad!!

Sessions bad!!

Comey bad!!

Hillary bad!!

Judge bad!!

Podesta bad!!

Did I mention: Hillary bad?


The judge was disgusted with Flynn's crimes. He was willing to consider Flynn's decades of service, but still felt, he'd be treated too leniently. Flynn's team raised some pretty scurrilous allegations against the FBI. The judge called Flynn on that, and Flynn beat a very hasty retreat. So, the judge urged Flynn to take some more time to support the prosecution in order to redeem himself. We've seen that construed as a bad day for Mueller, and as proof of the investigation's corruption.

Law enforcement showing up at a criminal's doorstep or office, asking question as to what he's done on this or that occasion, is now an "ambush". Asking the questions while law enforcement already knows what that criminal has done, is now "entrapment".

The funniest of all: Law enforcement now slowly beginning to clean out the swamp that is the Trump administration is being construed as The Swamp's revenge on Trump.

Naw, it isn't really all that funny, for it represents an all-out assault by the Trump administration on the Third Estate, with the all-out support by the Trumpletons, and no conspiracy theory is too threadbare to throw in in support of that effort.

And that is what this has to do with "anything".

 

[Care4all]

Flynn did NOTHING to "mount an attack against this country" and it was the JUDGE who walked back his ill-conceived "treason" comments after a break.. Think the JUDGE had a worse day..

He didn't really walk back all of his comments, he sort of walked back his question on whether it could be considered treason? And he corrected that Flynn was not sworn in yet as NSA. But he still believed Flynn sold his Country out.

Only criminal activity that Flynn MIGHT HAVE commtted is not registering as a foreign agent in his consulting in Turkey BEFORE the election.. Mueller did not INDICT him on that charge and apparently doesn't want to talk about WHY he didn't to the judge... THAT's what the judge was referring to when he called it inexcusable. But remembered during the break that Flynn has CEASED that consulting PRIOR to the election and prior to working in the WHouse.

hahahahahaha! NO Flacal!

The Judge knows why Mueller did not charge Flynn with the heaviest of his crimes was because Flynn agreed to cooperate and provided substantial help in their investigation and some other investigations outside of the special counsel's....

that was in the court papers.

The Judge knew all of what was redacted from the transcripts that we could not see and he believes that Mueller is giving Flynn too big of a break, where a break is not deserved....

he's seen all the criminal redacted stuff which Flynn was not charged with, not just what we see, but even more than simply not registering as an agent of a foreign power while working on a Candidate's campaign who was running for the president of the United States of America.

But bet your ass it's because Mueller is now aware that PODESTA was doing the same things during the campaign and dearly WANTS to ignore it for fear of being TRASHED for not charging Podesta.

Why don't you give the"Podesta's" first name? You DO KNOW that this is not John Podesta, Hillary's campaign mgr.... and you do know he had not worked for the firm in almost a decade.... so why not just give his brother's name? Why keep putting PODESTA in caps? Like it is suppose to mean something? Your "what-about-ism" in your defense of Flynn by trying to deflect to, PODESTA, is admirable but falls flat imho.

Major clusterfuck of justice. And MAYBE Flynn played himself a bit. But there wasn't ANYONE in that proceeding today who could justify this weird type of "justice"...

FOX
It was the opposite of what FOX news was touting on every show last Friday on what Judge Sullivan would be like and do....

that isn't necessarily weird... seems more' par for the course', to me.....

 

[Olde Europe]

Why don't you give the"Podesta's" first name? You DO KNOW that this is not Tony Podesta, Hillary's campaign mgr.... and you do know he had not worked for the firm in almost a decade....

<sigh> It was exactly Tony Podesta. Not John Podesta, who was Hillary's campaign manager.

 

[Care4all]

Why don't you give the"Podesta's" first name? You DO KNOW that this is not Tony Podesta, Hillary's campaign mgr.... and you do know he had not worked for the firm in almost a decade....

<sigh> It was exactly Tony Podesta. Not John Podesta, who was Hillary's campaign manager.

OOPS! damn! I will correct my post!

 

[BWK]

Does BWK believe the Tass report, or not? BWK would have fits to think about Gulen, Clinton, and chew gum at the same time. No, dipshit, we have been busy on another thread. Do you have the stones to visit it?

Ha retard, then go back to your other thread. We are discussing Flynn on this one, not your off topic nonsense.

 

[BWK]

Ari Melber: Michael Flynn played himself in court

Can you believe how stupid this guy is? Flynn shows up to court today, only to float around his arrogance in the face of getting no prison sentence. Flynn is not guaranteed no prison time, and when Flynn started pushing his weight around with the judge, the judge took Flynn out to the wood shed, reminding Flynn of the attack he mounted against this country. And when reminded of his criminal activity, and that the judge didn't agree with the the recommendation of no jail time by Mueller, Flynn walked everything he said back. Flynn walked back the notion that he didn't lie to the FBI when he did. Lol! When cornered, Flynn is nothing more than a traitor and a coward to this country.

Not sure what "played himself" meant. But the only conspiracy theory that hasn't been floated by the Trump supporters is that there were body doubles meeting with Russians and the Trumps and their cronies were never there.

I'm sure it will happen at some point.

"Playing himself" means Flynn went into the court room all cocky, because he thought he was getting off without a sentence and using his lawyers to make the point that he was being ambushed by perjuring himself, when in fact, that was never the case. He ended up walking back those statements to re-affirm to the country, that he lied on his own. No one ambushed him about the truth.. He foolishly "played himself", and as a result, may end up getting jail time. These Trump goons on Fox news like Pirro thought they had the judge dead to right by falsely interpreting him, and what he would say in court. Lol! He said exactly the opposite, making Fox and company look like the retards that they are.