Majority support birthright Citizenship

[Kilroy2]

Contested.


Trump is the most popular president since Ronny Reagan.


OK.


But it IS up to the number of votes. Think about it--- most every state runs a popular election and basically, whoever gets the most votes wins the state. But Ca and NY are such large states and so massively populated, that if we ran a purely national popular vote, then those two states would probably determine the outcome of every election.

That is why we have the Electoral College, so that every state gets a fair vote, a say in their governance, and so that even states like Rhode Island, Connecticut, Montana and Wyoming have some say in the outcome, and as such, get some representation.


You mean fortunately; the EC was a brilliant idea and solution to preserving democracy, and no one can be for true democracy yet be against the EC, as it gives every state a voice in picking our presidents.

It actually only gives lip service to democracy. If it was not for the creation of an electoral college, you boy Trump would never have been president. So it just gives the underdog a shot and a reason for republicans not to revolt.

Trump never got the most votes. it just your imagination running wild.

Donald Trump	Hillary Clinton
Republican	Democratic
New York	New York
Mike Pence	Tim Kaine
304[a]	227[a]
30 + ME-02	20 + DC
62,984,828[2]	65,853,514[

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Thus even a woman got more votes than Trump

The same would true of Biden as he got more votes.

 

[toobfreak]

If it was not for the creation of an electoral college, you boy Trump would never have been president.

Hey Ace---

Trump won the popular vote.

He would have beaten Harris no matter how you ran the election.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Hey, I hear the "Majority support birthright Citizenship"!

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-oppose-ending-birthright-citizenship

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Imagine an Asian nation, where ~3 billion live, builds a flotilla of modern cruise ships, puts several thousand pregnant women on board each vessel, with medical staff, and just steers those ships into the United States territorial waters, and all those babies born are automatically a U.S. citizen.

If you want to change the mind of white liberals you should use Europe and Australia not Asia as the example for the lily white anchor babies of pregnant women as that would have them scratching their heads as to what to do.

 

[MarathonMike]

It actually only gives lip service to democracy. If it was not for the creation of an electoral college, you boy Trump would never have been president. So it just gives the underdog a shot and a reason for republicans not to revolt.

Trump never got the most votes. it just your imagination running wild.

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Donald Trump	Hillary Clinton
Republican	Democratic
New York	New York
Mike Pence	Tim Kaine
304[a]	227[a]
30 + ME-02	20 + DC
62,984,828[2]	65,853,514[

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The Flaws of the Electoral College System -

Thus even a woman got more votes than Trump

The same would true of Biden as he got more votes.

Trump won the majority of US voters in the last election by a wide margin. And you may not know this, but the electoral college has been in place since the foundation of this country.

 

[task0778]

Then there's this:

Half of U.S. adults say people born in the United States to parents who immigrated illegally should have U.S. citizenship. Another 49% say they should not, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in April.


By contrast, nearly all U.S. adults say people born in the country to U.S.-born parents (95%) or to parents who immigrated legally (94%) should be citizens.

The public’s views about birthright citizenship for each of these groups are unchanged since August 2024.

U.S. public is split on birthright citizenship for people whose parents immigrated illegally

Half of U.S. adults say people born in the United States to parents who immigrated illegally should have U.S. citizenship, while 49% say they should not.

www.pewresearch.org

One wonders about the veracity of the OP's survey vs this one. I ain't saying which is more accurate, but I do wonder if the respondents actually knew what birthright citizenship meant. Nobody argues that people born to US citizens or those who immigrated here legally shouldn't be citizens. But people born to illegals is maybe another story. Did some people confuse the issue? You can't just lump them all together.


Added: from the OP's poll, this was the question:

Ending birthright citizenship, which makes anyone born in the U.S. a citizen 28%

Well hell, it matters if you're born to a US citizen or a legal; immigrant vs an illegal. IOW, that Ipsos poll is bullshit.