Opinion Article: Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't think it does.

And if SCOTUS says only an amendment will fix this, then I support an amendment either via Congress or an Article V convention.

Better get started, because it is coming soon!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No. it only requires what we agree it requires.

Read your Constitution again. You are wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

Wong doesn't apply because it was decided before modern immigration law and dealt with Exclusion acts passed after Ark was born in the US.

The modern immigration laws have the same problem the exclusion act has. It can't nullify the 14th.

If anyone born in the US is a citizen, it doesn't matter where he or she was the previous nine months.

 

[PubliusMM]

Amendment isn't going to happen. We can't even pass amendments doing sensible stuff like repealing the Second Amendment or getting rid of the electoral college.

As for laws, those laws would be immediately challenged and we'd be back where we started.

Sensible stuff? Repeal the Second Amendment? Get rid of the electoral college? Surely, there are myriad countries around this world that are a lot closer to your views. Please emigrate. Better yet, just steal your way into any one of them. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms. But your suggestion to abolish the 2nd amendment and the electoral college is just farcical.

 

[JoeB131]

Sensible stuff? Repeal the Second Amendment? Get rid of the electoral college? Surely, there are myriad countries around this world that are a lot closer to your views. Please emigrate. Better yet, just steal your way into any one of them. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms. But your suggestion to abolish the 2nd amendment and the electoral college is just farcical.

No, both are very rational.

Let's take the EC. No other country has one. Not even countries like the Philippines, where we set up the government. Why? Because it's an 18th-century relic from Founders who really didn't trust the rabble to make good decisions. It was meant to be a check that if the people elected someone completely inappropriate, they could put a stop to it. It's never worked that way, quite the opposite, where the times they've overruled the popular vote, it's been some kind of disaster or another

Second Amendment. The Founders thought that we needed those because we needed a militia. Except we don't have militias, we have professional police and soldiers now. It's obsolete.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, both are very rational.

Let's take the EC. No other country has one. Not even countries like the Philippines, where we set up the government. Why? Because it's an 18th-century relic from Founders who really didn't trust the rabble to make good decisions. It was meant to be a check that if the people elected someone completely inappropriate, they could put a stop to it. It's never worked that way, quite the opposite, where the times they've overruled the popular vote, it's been some kind of disaster or another

Second Amendment. The Founders thought that we needed those because we needed a militia. Except we don't have militias, we have professional police and soldiers now. It's obsolete.

Even if we didn't need a militia, we always had the right.

 

[Alicia J]

Wong doesn't apply because it was decided before modern immigration law and dealt with Exclusion acts passed after Ark was born in the US.

You can be prosecuted, you just need the host countries' permission. Also the term is jurisdiction, not laws.

As for your last statement...

Funny that you say the Wong case doesn't apply....when Trump's stooge solicitor general John Sauer used the Wong case in his argument to the Supreme Court on April 1st.

Yes, Trump is going to lose this case badly.

 

[JoeB131]

Even if we didn't need a militia, we always had the right.

Sorry, man, I don't see why Adam Lanza or Awake the Rapper or Joker Holmes have a "right" to a gun because a bunch of slave rapists couldn't define a militia correctly.

 

[rightwinger]

The demented LEFT want to use our Constitution as a suicide pact.

14th Amendment is very clear

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sorry, man, I don't see why Adam Lanza or Awake the Rapper or Joker Holmes have a "right" to a gun because a bunch of slave rapists couldn't define a militia correctly.

The definition doesn't give us the right, we always had the right.

 

[martybegan]

The modern immigration laws have the same problem the exclusion act has. It can't nullify the 14th.

If anyone born in the US is a citizen, it doesn't matter where he or she was the previous nine months.

The exclusion acts had a problem because they were targeted and in Arks paren't case, ex post facto.

 

[martybegan]

Funny that you say the Wong case doesn't apply....when Trump's stooge solicitor general John Sauer used the Wong case in his argument to the Supreme Court on April 1st.

Yes, Trump is going to lose this case badly.

Did he use it the positive, or as I am saying that it doesn't apply?

 

[JoeB131]

The exclusion acts had a problem because they were targeted and in Arks paren't case, ex post facto.

What do you think Cheeto Hitler is trying to do?

 

[Alicia J]

Did he use it the positive, or as I am saying that it doesn't apply?

It was the whole basis of his argument. You are hopeless.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

Why should we allow people to come here for the sole reason of birthing an American Citizen they will then take back home with them?

All these illegal migrant women dumping babies out like a cheese factory.

 

[martybegan]

What do you think Cheeto Hitler is trying to do?

Not Ex post facto. Going forward.

 

[JoeB131]

Not Ex post facto. Going forward.

He hasn't made that distinction.

 

[martybegan]

He hasn't made that distinction.

Wrong. The EO gives a date of February 19th 2025 as the cutoff date.

 

[TrumpMAGA88]

Amendment isn't going to happen. We can't even pass amendments doing sensible stuff like repealing the Second Amendment or getting rid of the electoral college.

As for laws, those laws would be immediately challenged and we'd be back where we started.

You should be taken outside and shot for heresy.

 

[JoeB131]

You should be taken outside and shot for heresy.

Not at all. The Constitution is a flawed one. We shouldn't treat it like a sacred document.

The electoral college doesn't work.
The Second Amendment makes no sense when a single AR-15 has more firepower than a platoon of musketmen.
Presidential Pardons are ripe for abuse, and should either be gotten rid of or modified