Zone1 Is God The Father of Everyone In This World?

[SaxonJackson]

Modern Israel fulfills several prophecies concerning the tribe of Judah.

It also fulfills prophecies concerning "them who call themselves Jews but are not ..."

Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.

Christ stood toe to toe with "Jews" and called them "children of your father the devil" and "a generation of vipers." Don't always believe what the televangelists and religionists tell you about today's Jews. Just because they wear religious clothing doesn't make them right.

Remember: George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Chuck Schumer, Jamie Raskin, Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, Jonathan Greenblatt, etc. are anti-American Jews. I'd never call them "God's chosen."

 

[Woodznutz]

No. Your conception is very clear not monotheistic but dualistic as it is in Zoroatrism between the godly poles Ahura Mazda and Angria Manyu.

That would be like saying I'm Jewish because I keep the Sabbath.

I know nothing of Zoroastrianism.

 

[Woodznutz]

It also fulfills prophecies concerning "them who call themselves Jews but are not ..."

Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.

Christ stood toe to toe with "Jews" and called them "children of your father the devil" and "a generation of vipers." Don't always believe what the televangelists and religionists tell you about today's Jews. Just because they wear religious clothing doesn't make them right.

Remember: George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Chuck Schumer, Jamie Raskin, Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, Jonathan Greenblatt, etc. are anti-American Jews. I'd never call them "God's chosen."

The Jews are still under God's curse leveled at them through the prophet Ezekiel. They are still God's 'chosen' but are being spanked. Even the 'state of Israel' is under constant duress. Jerusalem is also called Babylon, which doesn't bode well for them.

 

[SaxonJackson]

The Jews are still under God's curse leveled at them through the prophet Ezekiel. They are still God's 'chosen' but are being spanked. Even the 'state of Israel' is under constant duress. Jerusalem is also called Babylon, which doesn't bode well for them.

Do you believe that belief and faith in Jesus Christ is the ONLY door that leads to the Kingdom of God? Do you believe that anyone who denies Christ also denies the Father? Do you believe that all people (including Jews) who have died without Christ will end up in hell?

 

[zaangalewa]

I addressed a plain statement that you made. Perhaps you can explain it more fully.

No. It's a waste of time to do so. Read "Das sogenannte Böse" from Konrad Lorenz - or another good book about why agressions are important on biological reasons and try to bring this in harmony with the creation of angels and devils. Perhaps you are able to understand your father and yourselve better in this way. But I do not think this is important for a Christian. But what everyone always should be aware is it that god is creator and devils are creation.

My idea about why Satan hates us is very simple: Satan hates us because he loves god and god suffers with us because he loves us. Or with other words: For Satanas we are Satanas because we let suffer god. But I have not any lousy idea about whether this is really right or wrong. But perhaps the ... ¿how to say this? ... the counter-rotation of such an idea is able to help you.

For sure the bible is not god but "only" a holy summary of books and Satan is no anti-god. Only god is god and it exists not any anti-god.

 

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god is creator and devils are creation.

How so?

 

[zaangalewa]

The Jews are still under God's curse ...

You are an anti-Semitic superidiot. It's really a waste of time to try to speak with people like you who curse themselve. Even a naive atheist is in a better situation than you are. God is life. God is love. God is reason.

 

[zaangalewa]

That would be like saying I'm Jewish because I keep the Sabbath.

No, waffler.

I know nothing of Zoroastrianism.

But you use the dualistic concept of Zoroatrism. Creator and creation are far not the same.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Revelation ...

No one - absolutelly no one - understands the book revelation.

 

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No one - absolutelly no one - understands the book revelation.

Not even the author who wrote it?

 

[SaxonJackson]

No one - absolutelly no one - understands the book revelation.

God would not provide a book written in His hand unless He believed it could be understood. Nevertheless, Rev 2:9 and 3:9 are very easy to understand.

 

[irosie91]

Makes no sense. Nevertheless is the combination of this 2 letters a nice picture - in the Latin אב.

the first letter is 'aleph' ---the first letter of the ALPHABET. Way
back it was thought to represent the head of an horned animal. ---
ie, a pictograph. The second letter is 'bet' ---way back thought
to be a pictograph of a house.

 

[irosie91]

Not even the author who wrote it?

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds---of course it makes sense
to the author. Delusions and Hallucinations make PERFECT
SENSE to the person so afflicted----you cannot talk a psychotic
out of his delusions (for the record--that includes chemical
induced psychosis or even that induced by infection)

 

[Woodznutz]

No. It's a waste of time to do so. Read "Das sogenannte Böse" from Konrad Lorenz - or another good book about why agressions are important on biological reasons and try to bring this in harmony with the creation of angels and devils. Perhaps you are able to understand your father and yourselve better in this way. But I do not think this is important for a Christian. But what everyone always should be aware is it that god is creator and devils are creation.

My idea about why Satan hates us is very simple: Satan hates us because he loves god and god suffers with us because he loves us. Or with other words: For Satanas we are Satanas because we let suffer god. But I have not any lousy idea about whether this is really right or wrong. But perhaps the ... ¿how to say this? ... the counter-rotation of such an idea is able to help you.

For sure the bible is not god but "only" a holy summary of books and Satan is no anti-god. Only god is god and it exists not any anti-god.

I believe the Christian Bible is God's word to Israel. How God communicates with others is another subject.

 

[Woodznutz]

But you use the dualistic concept of Zoroatrism. Creator and creation are far not the same.

That would simply be coincidence. There are unintentional similarities among many religions.

 

[Woodznutz]

No one - absolutelly no one - understands the book revelation.

I wouldn't make that judgment.
There are things that we believe that we understand. Who's to judge?

 

[Woodznutz]

You are an anti-Semitic superidiot. It's really a waste of time to try to speak with people like you who curse themselve. Even a naive atheist is in a better situation than you are. God is life. God is love. God is reason.

So, you are a Holocaust denier? What other ethnic group has so suffered the specific curses imposed by God on the Jews, for millennia to this day.

 

[irosie91]

I believe the Christian Bible is God's word to Israel. How God communicates with others is another subject.

really, then HE should have written it in Aramaic. There is no
evidence, even in the NT, that Jesus was literate in Latin

That would simply be coincidence. There are unintentional similarities among many religions.

HOWEVER, the "DEVIL" in the christian ethos is an actual POWERFUL RULER of "da underworld" ----He (It) is endowed
with independent supernatural powers ----an idea that, historically,
was rejected in Judaism and which put Judaism at odds with
Zoroastrians.

 

[irosie91]

So, you are a Holocaust denier? What other ethnic group has so suffered the specific curses imposed by God on the Jews, for millennia to this day.

" imposed by 'God' "? You actually see Adolf as a DIVINE
AGENT? ----watta copout

 

[Woodznutz]

God would not provide a book written in His hand unless He believed it could be understood. Nevertheless, Rev 2:9 and 3:9 are very easy to understand.

What is your understanding of these verses?