Zone1 Is God The Father of Everyone In This World?

[zaangalewa]

the bible is a comic? The bible is written in letters that developed
from pictographs-----but meaning is not based on the nature of the
original pictographs. I am not astonished

I am still astonished to read such stupidities. Case 12,356,547 if I remember well. So what is "12,356,547" now? A fact? Only because it is a number? Or a picture?

 

[irosie91]

I am still astonished to read such stupidities. Case 12,356,547 if I remember well. So what is "12,356,547" now? A fact? Only because it is a number? Or a picture?

case "12,356,547" would be described in language represented by
a series of letters, assuming that the lawyers or court clerks had not
tampered with it.

 

[zaangalewa]

good point----but why bother?

"Bother" ... hmmm ... Guess this means "Who cares about that” ... Because you are no Christian? ... That's no problem for me but on the other side I see meanwhile in most US-American Christians no Christians. Much too less Christmas - much too much Apocalypse.



Wir haben seinen Stern gesehen und kommen voll Freude
= We have seen his star and come full of joy

Gottes Stern, leuchte uns, Himmelslicht der Schöpfung
= God's star, shine upon us, heavenly light of creation

Aus Finsternis und dunkler Nacht hat Gott der Welt das Licht gebracht
= Out of darkness and dark night, God has brought light to the world

Gottes Wort die Welt erschuf, Menschen, höret seinen Ruf
= God's word created the world, people hear his call

Wir haben seinen Stern gesehen und kommen voll Freude
= We have seen his star and come full of joy

Wir haben seinen Stern gesehen und kommen voll Freude
= We have seen his star and come full of joy

 

[irosie91]

It appears God is not the Father of everyone in this world.

John 8
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

They claimed God to be their Father, but Jesus says them wait hold up...I don't think so. Jesus let them know God is not their Father. Jesus tells them Satan the devil is your father.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

whoever "john" was----the construct he invented of putative "conversation"
between random "jews" and Jesus----seems really idiotic. Was "john" on
mushrooms?

 

[irosie91]

"Bother" ... hmmm ... Guess this means "Who cares about that” ... Because you are no Christian? ... That's no problem for me but on the other side I see meanwhile in most US-American Christians no Christians. Much too less Christmas - much too much Apocalypse.

you see APOCALYPSE? drink some warm milk, go to bed----it will go away by the time you wake up. Actually---your referral to Zoroastrianism
WAS interesting. ---- the GOOD/EVIL dichotomy thing. There is a bit of
putative history that might interest you----it is said (whatevah that means)
that the jews of Persia had a dispute with the zoroastrians thereof because
jews were incessantly singing "GOD IS ONE" ---it bugged the MAGI

 

[zaangalewa]

case "12,356,547" would be described in language represented by
a series of letters, assuming that the lawyers or court clerks had not
tampered with it.

Your problem is now that you are allknowing more about this what I said than I do know on my own about this what I said. I used the number "12,356,547" just simple as a picture fot a big number.

 

[zaangalewa]

you see APOCALYPSE? drink some warm milk, go to bed----it will go away by the time you wake up. Actually---your referral to Zoroastrianism
WAS interesting. ---- the GOOD/EVIL dichotomy thing. There is a bit of
putative history that might interest you----it is said (whatevah that means)
that the jews of Persia had a dispute with the zoroastrians thereof because
jews were incessantly singing "GOD IS ONE" ---it bugged the MAGI

Willst Du Dich mit mir streiten? Heute am 6. Januar? Drei-Königs-Tag und orthodoxes Weihnachtsfest? Über was? Ich hab Dir ganz einfach gesagt was ich mir denke - das ist alles. Du magst das nicht - das ist das andere.
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Do you want to argue with me? Today on January 6th? Three Kings Day and Orthodox Christmas? About what? I just told you what I was thinking - that's all. You don't like that - that's the other thing.

Another question: What means "AV"? ... A nice combination of letters by the way: Two not parallel parallels including a symmetry break - or two symmetry breaks of paralell lines ? Or one symmetry break and one symmetry bridge? ...

 

[irosie91]

Your problem is now that you are allknowing more about this what I said than I do know on my own about this what I said. I used the number "12,356,547" just simple as a picture fot a big number.

oh----well----free association----I have had court issues with tampering
court clerks-----WEIRD but true. Remember free-association? I am far
from all knowing---the revelation of the tampering TOOK ME BY SURPRISE.
I am ALL-TRUSTING

 

[irosie91]

Willst Du Dich mit mir streiten? Heute am 6. Januar? Drei-Königs-Tag und orthodoxes Weihnachtsfest? Über was? Ich hab Dir ganz einfach gesagt was ich mir denke - das ist alles. Du magst das nicht - das ist das andere.
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Do you want to argue with me? Today on January 6th? Three Kings Day and Orthodox Christmas? About what? I just told you what I was thinking - that's all. You don't like that - that's the other thing.

Another question: What means "AV"? ... A nice combination of letters by the way: Two not parallel parallels including a symmetry break - or two symmetry breaks of paralell lines ? Or one symmetry break and one symmetry bridge? ...

AV is two letters in english. They APPROXIMATE the hebrew word which is
roughly translated as 'father'----but is used in a variety of applications indicating both an honorific and a relationship. The word is also the name of
a month in hebrew----probably derived from a sumerian word

 

[Woodznutz]

The devil is not [an] anti-god. The devil is creation. Your "concept" is not Christian but Zoroastrian.

My concept is Biblical, although the devil does have a closed association with the creation/earth. The devil was "cast down/back to earth". Why not cast him out in space somewhere?

 

[zaangalewa]

AV is two letters in english. They APPROXIMATE the hebrew word which is
roughly translated as 'father'----but is used in a variety of applications indicating both an honorific and a relationship. The word is also the name of
a month in hebrew----probably derived from a sumerian word

Makes no sense. Nevertheless is the combination of this 2 letters a nice picture - in the Latin אב.

 

[Woodznutz]

good point----but why bother?

Terrible point. He should study his Bible more carefully.

 

[zaangalewa]

My concept is Biblical.

No. Your conception is very clear not monotheistic but dualistic as it is in Zoroatrism between the godly poles Ahura Mazda and Angria Maynu.

 

[Woodznutz]

God is the Creator of all things. So, in that sense, He is the Father of all things. On a more personal note, He is the Father to all 12 Tribes of biblical Israel. Sorry ... modern Israel is a different group, altogether.

Modern Israel fulfills several prophecies concerning the tribe of Judah.

 

[Woodznutz]

No.

Study it for yourself.

 

[Woodznutz]

whoever "john" was----the construct he invented of putative "conversation"
between random "jews" and Jesus----seems really idiotic. Was "john" on
mushrooms?

Evil people are the spiritual children of the devil.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It appears God is not the Father of everyone in this world.

John 8
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

They claimed God to be their Father, but Jesus says them wait hold up...I don't think so. Jesus let them know God is not their Father. Jesus tells them Satan the devil is your father.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Yes, he is

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, he is

Jesus is speaking of the spiritual fathers. We all have physical fathers but also spiritual fathers. Our spiritual role models are either God and Jesus Christ, or Satan the devil. Of course, our physical fathers do have great influence over us as well, for good or for bad.

 

[zaangalewa]

My concept is Biblical,

No.

although the devil does have a closed association with the creation/earth. The devil was "cast down/back to earth". Why not cast him out in space somewhere?

You did not understand what I said to you. Whatever - also the bible is not god.

 

[Woodznutz]

No.



You did not understand what I said to you.

I addressed a plain statement that you made. Perhaps you can explain it more fully.