Is Christmas a Christian (or Catholic) Holiday?

[Penelope]

I can't stand the bug on you signature ...

Not very many people can.

.... why do you have it?

It came over on the ark. The Lord works in strange ways and who are we to question His creation?

I will have to ignore you if you don't take the bug away from your signature.

 

[GLASNOST]

I can't stand the bug on you signature ... why do you have it? I will have to ignore you if you don't take the bug away from your signature.

How can you deny God's work? Behold!

Genesis 6:19

And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark to keep them alive with you. They shall be male and female.

Genesis 7:5

And Noah did all that the Lord had commanded him.

Genesis 6:22

Noah did this; he did all that God commanded him.

Genesis 7:9

Two and two, male and female, went into the ark with Noah, as God had commanded Noah.

Genesis 7:15

They went into the ark with Noah, two and two of all flesh in which there was the breath of life.

Genesis 7:16
And those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him. And the Lord shut him in.
Genesis 8:1

But God remembered Noah and all the beasts and all the livestock that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind blow over the earth, and the waters subsided.

Genesis 8:13-17

In the six hundred and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried from off the earth. And Noah removed the covering of the ark and looked, and behold, the face of the ground was dry. In the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth had dried out. Then God said to Noah, “Go out from the ark, you and your wife, and your sons and your sons' wives with you. Bring out with you every living thing that is with you of all flesh—birds and animals and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth—that they may swarm on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth.”

Romans 1:20

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Colossians 1:16

For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

Psalm 33:6

By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host.

John 1:3

All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Nehemiah 9:6

“You are the Lord, you alone. You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them; and you preserve all of them; and the host of heaven worships you.

 

[Bezukhov]

Well, here's the final word:
A History of Rome Christmas ~~ Mike Duncan

 

[GLASNOST]

Well, here's the final word:
A History of Rome Christmas ~~ Mike Duncan

Well, he might have made sense except that "mid-winter" isn't in December around the world. So his theory is silly.

 

[zaangalewa]

Funny how it ended up around the northern hemisphere winter solstice, the pagan festival celebrating the rebirth of the sun. Must be a coincidence.

No. The most "pagan" elements today come from the 19th, 20th and 21st century and are pure fantasy from "esoterics". Why do you think for example someone had celebrated hundreds or thousands of years ago the "rebirth of the sun" in winter? Makes no sense. The sun "dies" every day and the rebirth of the sun is every day. The question was for them why is a day so short and the night so long in the North in winter. And the people in Scandinavia who had such problems are not since a very long time Christians. So Christman existed a long time before such elements had an influence on Christians.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Well, here's the final word:
A History of Rome Christmas ~~ Mike Duncan

It is true that Constantine started converting the old pagan Holy days and statues into Biblical sacred days and characters. Like the statue of David. It was forbidden for a Jew to exposed their nakedness.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Meh; piffle. Two thousand years of blood, guts, saints and sinners.....sounds perfectly Catholic/Christian/Jewish/ whatever.

Greg

Aha - stupid anti-Semites, Anti-Europeans and Nazis seem never to die out. Without Jews and Christians you would not be able to write the nonsense which you write and you had to hunt a reindeer for your appetite. It makes much more fun that reindeers make a sleigh ride all around the planet with the Greek Saint Nicholas - also well known under the name "Santa".

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I find this piece interesting and tellworthy, because nowadays many denie the christian roots of Christmas they just equal it with ancient pagan roots, and consumerism. They want to erase the Christ out of Christmas. Many just say "But Christmas is pagan not Christian."

Read Catholic Roots of Christmas


Catholic Roots of Christmas
December 19, 2020
Christmas honors the pivotal day which altered all of history. Christians around the world celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Christ Jesus. On this day, God Incarnate departed the hidden tabernacle of Mary’s womb into the blissful embrace of His mother’s arms. And she, in turn, presented this unblemished child, this Divine Gift, to all the world that we might adore Him as “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

As with any child’s arrival, there are many preparations to be made before welcoming the new family member; an expecting family gathers bathing items, blankets, and a collection of cozy outfits. Faithful members of the Catholic Christian family prepare for Christ’s coming by observing the season of Advent.

Advent is a time of joyful anticipation in which the faithful prepare their hearts for the most special arrival of the Divine Infant. Formally introduced by the Council of Tours in 567 AD, the Advent season begins four Sundays prior to Christmas Day. This period provides a precursor to the special holy day when the Light of the World shines amidst the darkness, the Sign of Hope dispels all despair.

One Catholic tradition orienting believers toward Christ’s coming is the Nativity Scene. This practice harkens back to Medieval times when in 1223, St. Francis of Assisi directed a live nativity scene as a form of public remembrance honoring Christ’s birth. St. Francis wanted to bring the Gospels to life, assigning parts for Mary, Joseph, the shepherds, and others so that in witnessing this reenactment, all people would learn the extraordinary story of God’s love for mankind. Often the nativity creche remains empty until Christmas Eve as a reminder that the faithful eagerly await the Christ child. And when the Divine Infant arrives, how much greater is the joy during the Christmas vigil when Baby Jesus joins the Holy Family and all humanity!

When the faithful prepare their hearts properly, the blessings of Christmas may be appreciated in full. “We Christians are called to safeguard and spread the joy of waiting,” Pope Francis declared in a Vatican address. Additionally, much as the faithful await Christ’s birth in remembrance of the first Christmas, the Catholic liturgical readings point the faithful toward awaiting Christ’s ultimate return upon Judgement Day.

According to Catholic tradition, the rejoicing of Christ’s coming lasts considerably longer than one great day. Rather, it stretches from the Christmas vigil Mass until the Feast of the Epiphany, sometimes called Three Kings’ Day.

Why did the Church choose to celebrate Christ’s birth on December 25? The most direct answer is that according to the Roman calendar, this day marked the winter solstice. Saint Augustine explained the significance of this day in remembering Christ’s coming, writing, “on the day which is the shortest in our earthly reckoning and from which subsequent days begin to increase in length. He, therefore, who bent low and lifted us up chose the shortest day, yet the one whence light begins to increase.”

The most excellent Catholic tradition of celebrating Christmas as a family is attending Holy Mass together. Even young adults who may have strayed from observing other tenets of their Catholic faith will often return to Mass with their families in order to observe the sacred Feast of the Nativity.

Christmas is a rare time when the Mass readings differ according to the order in which the Mass is offered. There are four distinct Christmas Masses. The Vigil Mass is offered at the start of Christmas Eve. The Mass of the angels is a popular celebration, offered at midnight. The Dawn Mass is called the Mass of the Shepherds; it is offered early morning. Finally, on Christmas Day, the priest offers the Mass of the Divine Word.

The Christmas octave is punctuated with a feast that originally honored Christ’s circumcision. In present times, the Catholic Church commemorates the first day of the year as the Feast of Mary, Mother of God. This holy day respects Mary’s unique human privilege of forming Christ physically and spiritually before releasing Him into the world to fulfill His divine salvific work.

The end of the Christmas season points toward this extraordinary mission for which God entered the world. According to Catholic tradition, the Magi, called the Three Kings, spent 12 days following a star. The brilliant star led them to Bethlehem, where Jesus had just been born. The Wise Men—Melchior, Caspar, and Balthazar—presented three symbolic gifts to the Holy Family for their newborn son. The kings presented to the Divine Child gold to honor His kingship, frankincense to honor His priesthood, and myrrh to honor His humanity.

Many families around the world present gifts to one another either in celebration of Christmas Day or in commemoration of the Three Kings. The faithful fulfill the Christmas spirit when offering their own hearts to the Divine Messiah who humbled Himself to enter the world as a small child.

Article written by Myriah C. Boudreaux for Christian Catholic Media

Myriah C. Boudreaux graduated from Franciscan University of Steubenville with a BA in Psychology. Soon after, she left her native Southern California home to marry a FUS alumnus, start a family, settle in Bayou Country with her Cajun husband, and begin a career homeschooling their ever-growing family. With seven children ranging from ages 21 – 2, her practical understanding of Heavenly Father's patience, love, and mercy is continually expanding.

Neither.
Virtually no one in western cultures celebrates Christmas by remembering/honoring Christs birth.
Sure they may put up a nativity scene on their yard... but then everything else is about buying gifts and getting together to eat and exchange them.
Having said that, it was Constantine, who was Christian, who made the holiday in December to directly compete with other pagan holidays at the time.
Only reason why it is on Dec. 25th.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Uhhhhh, wait a minute. Judaism is older than that but that helps to make my point. To put it crudely but fairly, Christianity isn't a religion at all. It is a break-away cult that seeks increasingly more and more freedom (Catholicism > Protestantism, etc.) than the rules that govern "the chosen people".

I don't think Jews accept it to be called "Christians". And that US-Americans pseudo-Christians separate between Christians and Catholics and forget the Orthodox Christians is only a tragedy with the name "With arrogant stupidity against the rest of the world".

 

[GLASNOST]

... Uhhhhh, wait a minute. Judaism is older than that but that helps to make my point. To put it crudely but fairly, Christianity isn't a religion at all. It is a break-away cult that seeks increasingly more and more freedom (Catholicism > Protestantism, etc.) than the rules that govern "the chosen people".

I don't think Jews accept it to be called "Christians". And that US-Americans pseudo-Christians separate between Christians and Catholics and forget the Orthodox Christians is only a tragedy with the name "With arrogant stupidity against the rest of the world".

Jews are not Christians and I never said they are. However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Uhhhhh, wait a minute. Judaism is older than that but that helps to make my point. To put it crudely but fairly, Christianity isn't a religion at all. It is a break-away cult that seeks increasingly more and more freedom (Catholicism > Protestantism, etc.) than the rules that govern "the chosen people".

I don't think Jews accept it to be called "Christians". And that US-Americans pseudo-Christians separate between Christians and Catholics and forget the Orthodox Christians is only a tragedy with the name "With arrogant stupidity against the rest of the world".

Jews are not Christians and I never said they are.

It existed and exist Jews who are Christians. In the bible for example nearly everyone is a Jew. Mary, Joseph, Jesus, the ass, the ox, the angels, the shepards, the disciples and so on and so on. Pontius Pilate and Varus were not Jews - but this are two other stories.

However, Christians Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

 

[GLASNOST]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah. Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

 

[norwegen]

I find this piece interesting and tellworthy, because nowadays many denie the christian roots of Christmas they just equal it with ancient pagan roots, and consumerism. They want to erase the Christ out of Christmas. Many just say "But Christmas is pagan not Christian."

Read Catholic Roots of Christmas


Catholic Roots of Christmas
December 19, 2020
Christmas honors the pivotal day which altered all of history. Christians around the world celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Christ Jesus. On this day, God Incarnate departed the hidden tabernacle of Mary’s womb into the blissful embrace of His mother’s arms. And she, in turn, presented this unblemished child, this Divine Gift, to all the world that we might adore Him as “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

As with any child’s arrival, there are many preparations to be made before welcoming the new family member; an expecting family gathers bathing items, blankets, and a collection of cozy outfits. Faithful members of the Catholic Christian family prepare for Christ’s coming by observing the season of Advent.

Advent is a time of joyful anticipation in which the faithful prepare their hearts for the most special arrival of the Divine Infant. Formally introduced by the Council of Tours in 567 AD, the Advent season begins four Sundays prior to Christmas Day. This period provides a precursor to the special holy day when the Light of the World shines amidst the darkness, the Sign of Hope dispels all despair.

One Catholic tradition orienting believers toward Christ’s coming is the Nativity Scene. This practice harkens back to Medieval times when in 1223, St. Francis of Assisi directed a live nativity scene as a form of public remembrance honoring Christ’s birth. St. Francis wanted to bring the Gospels to life, assigning parts for Mary, Joseph, the shepherds, and others so that in witnessing this reenactment, all people would learn the extraordinary story of God’s love for mankind. Often the nativity creche remains empty until Christmas Eve as a reminder that the faithful eagerly await the Christ child. And when the Divine Infant arrives, how much greater is the joy during the Christmas vigil when Baby Jesus joins the Holy Family and all humanity!

When the faithful prepare their hearts properly, the blessings of Christmas may be appreciated in full. “We Christians are called to safeguard and spread the joy of waiting,” Pope Francis declared in a Vatican address. Additionally, much as the faithful await Christ’s birth in remembrance of the first Christmas, the Catholic liturgical readings point the faithful toward awaiting Christ’s ultimate return upon Judgement Day.

According to Catholic tradition, the rejoicing of Christ’s coming lasts considerably longer than one great day. Rather, it stretches from the Christmas vigil Mass until the Feast of the Epiphany, sometimes called Three Kings’ Day.

Why did the Church choose to celebrate Christ’s birth on December 25? The most direct answer is that according to the Roman calendar, this day marked the winter solstice. Saint Augustine explained the significance of this day in remembering Christ’s coming, writing, “on the day which is the shortest in our earthly reckoning and from which subsequent days begin to increase in length. He, therefore, who bent low and lifted us up chose the shortest day, yet the one whence light begins to increase.”

The most excellent Catholic tradition of celebrating Christmas as a family is attending Holy Mass together. Even young adults who may have strayed from observing other tenets of their Catholic faith will often return to Mass with their families in order to observe the sacred Feast of the Nativity.

Christmas is a rare time when the Mass readings differ according to the order in which the Mass is offered. There are four distinct Christmas Masses. The Vigil Mass is offered at the start of Christmas Eve. The Mass of the angels is a popular celebration, offered at midnight. The Dawn Mass is called the Mass of the Shepherds; it is offered early morning. Finally, on Christmas Day, the priest offers the Mass of the Divine Word.

The Christmas octave is punctuated with a feast that originally honored Christ’s circumcision. In present times, the Catholic Church commemorates the first day of the year as the Feast of Mary, Mother of God. This holy day respects Mary’s unique human privilege of forming Christ physically and spiritually before releasing Him into the world to fulfill His divine salvific work.

The end of the Christmas season points toward this extraordinary mission for which God entered the world. According to Catholic tradition, the Magi, called the Three Kings, spent 12 days following a star. The brilliant star led them to Bethlehem, where Jesus had just been born. The Wise Men—Melchior, Caspar, and Balthazar—presented three symbolic gifts to the Holy Family for their newborn son. The kings presented to the Divine Child gold to honor His kingship, frankincense to honor His priesthood, and myrrh to honor His humanity.

Many families around the world present gifts to one another either in celebration of Christmas Day or in commemoration of the Three Kings. The faithful fulfill the Christmas spirit when offering their own hearts to the Divine Messiah who humbled Himself to enter the world as a small child.

Article written by Myriah C. Boudreaux for Christian Catholic Media

Myriah C. Boudreaux graduated from Franciscan University of Steubenville with a BA in Psychology. Soon after, she left her native Southern California home to marry a FUS alumnus, start a family, settle in Bayou Country with her Cajun husband, and begin a career homeschooling their ever-growing family. With seven children ranging from ages 21 – 2, her practical understanding of Heavenly Father's patience, love, and mercy is continually expanding.

Neither.
Virtually no one in western cultures celebrates Christmas by remembering/honoring Christs birth.
Sure they may put up a nativity scene on their yard... but then everything else is about buying gifts and getting together to eat and exchange them.
Having said that, it was Constantine, who was Christian, who made the holiday in December to directly compete with other pagan holidays at the time.
Only reason why it is on Dec. 25th.

I think a lot of people celebrate Christ's birth on Christmas. Christmas Eve church services are still quite popular.

 

[norwegen]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah. Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

Christians are not Jews. Only Christian Zionists claim some connection to the current iteration of Judaism, as if it's biblical or something.

 

[zaangalewa]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion.

Whats an absurde idea of some protestants.

Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah.

Jesus was a Jew and you hate all Jews, anti-Semite. That's indeed not compatible with the Christains religion(=rebound in god).

Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

You hate all Jews and you hate all Christians. So what? Do you think this shocks me, extremist?

 

[Taz]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion.

Whats an absurde idea of some protestants.

Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah.

Jesus was a Jew and you hate all Jews, anti-Semite. That's indeed not compatible with the Christains religion(=rebound in god).

Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

You hate all Jews and you hate all Christians. So what? Do you think this shocks me, extremist?

Christmas is for Nazis, isn't it?

 

[zaangalewa]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah. Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

Christians are not Jews. Only Christian Zionists claim some connection to the current iteration of Judaism, as if it's biblical or something.

¿Christian Zionists? ... Which zoo do you come from?

 

[zaangalewa]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion.

Whats an absurde idea of some protestants.

Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah.

Jesus was a Jew and you hate all Jews, anti-Semite. That's indeed not compatible with the Christains religion(=rebound in god).

Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

You hate all Jews and you hate all Christians. So what? Do you think this shocks me, extremist?

Christmas is for Nazis, isn't it?

no comment, Nazi

 

[GLASNOST]

Aha - stupid anti-Semites, Anti-Europeans and Nazis seem never to die out. Without Jews and Christians you would not be able to write the nonsense which you write and you had to hunt a reindeer for your appetite. It makes much more fun that reindeers make a sleigh ride all around the planet with the Greek Saint Nicholas - also well known under the name "Santa".

What a bigoted response in which you embed a video of the military. Do you know what the job of the military is? KILLING PEOPLE. Take a look at the wars these last few decades and you will see (if you are honest) that 90% of the dead were innocent. And yet you talk about anti-Semites and Nazis. You are talking about yourself.

 

[GLASNOST]

However, Christians are Jews who have blasphemed and defiled their faith.

Could be true. In more casual words: Jews "stole" their own god and gave the rebound in god to the whole world - what doesn't mean you understand the Jewish and/or Christian religion (=rebound in god). What about for example it was the will of god that this had to happen? Then exists nothing what you could call "blasphemed".

Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is a cult of Jews who denounce the Messiah. Had they decided to create a new religion then that is one thing ... but they didn't found a new religion. Instead, they defiled Judaism and continue doing it to this very day. Nearly everything Christians do is a blasphemy.

Christians are not Jews. Only Christian Zionists claim some connection to the current iteration of Judaism, as if it's biblical or something.

Christians are Jews ..... bad Jews. They forsake the Messiah and call the prophet Christ, Messiah. Bad Jews. Very bad Jews who are blasphemers in nearly everything they say and do.