I Had No Idea All Smokers Were Mega Wealthy

[Dragonlady]

Link?

Provide a link to your data, or you are admitting you are a lying sack of shit Dragonlady

Once again you give evidence that you're too stupid and too lazy to google. You also prove that you didn't read these links that on any of the last four times (minimum) that I post them, FuckBoi. Why don't you have a job? Are you too stupid, or too lazy to get a job?

Millions in lawsuit settlements are another hidden cost of police misconduct, legal experts say

Over $300 million was spent in fiscal year 2019 for judgments in three U.S. cities.

abcnews.go.com

How Cities Offload the Cost of Police Brutality

Cities spend tens of millions of dollars on lawsuits over police violence and killings. But municipalities are effectively using residents to mortgage the cost.

www.bloomberg.com

Fact check: Municipal taxpayers foot the bill for police brutality with interest-collecting bonds

If a city finances a police misconduct judgment or settlement with municipal bonds, then a bondholder can technically profit from police brutality.

www.usatoday.com

Commentary: Let taxpayers know where money for police misconduct settlements comes from

Establishing transparency around these costs, and how they’re paid, is critical to spurring more reform, encouraging more equitable policing and reducing police misconduct resulting in lower monetary settlements.

www.chicagotribune.com

Let me know how you enjoyed the articles FuckBoi!

 

[9thIDdoc]

Hopefully this will drive them to quit. Conservatives want to be free to make bad choices, and then inflict the results of their bad choices onto others. You want to smoke, and have other people pay for your health care. I prefer that smokers be reminded every time they buy a pack of cigarettes that there is a big costs to stupid decisions.

Who are you to decide for others what is or is not "bad choices"? Government justified raising taxes to ridiculous levels to "offset the cost of increased healthcare for smokers". Government leached away enough money to buy a medium sized country but has yet to actually ease healthcare treatment expenses of people with smoking-related medical expenses. A scam and an excuse to separate money from the people to pay for it's own frivolous spending or line the pockets of politicians.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes. Conservatives what people to be free.

No, actually Conservatives don't want people to be free to inflict bad choices on others, hence why Conservatives prosecute criminals, and don't let them back on the streets like the left's doing in Chicago and NY.

I think smoking is a horrible idea, but people certainly have the right to make that horrible choice. If they get sick from it, they should pay their medical bills and deal with the consequences.

Libs, anti-freedom folks, want to control people's healthcare, and choices...they don't believe in freedom

Conservatives prosecute criminals???? Then why do fewer than 1% of rapes result in a conviction. There's a crime women would really be in favour of prosecuting.

If the criminals are white boys, you don't care what they do, and neither do the police. Black kids get charged with marijuana possession at a rate 7 times higher than white kids. Of course with non-white arrests, you get the bonus of stripping them of their voting rights. Cops don't want to ruin white boy's lives with petty dope charges.

You only care about black crime, which you see as a racial failing, and not a result of racism and poverty which all non-whites live with in the USA. Policing in the USA began with slave patrols, and "keeping the black man in his place". Now you use over-policing, "Zero Tolerance" in a phony war on drugs, and "driving while black" traffic stops to ensure that young black men have criminal records, making it harder for them to get jobs, and causing them to lose their voting rights.

The over policing in poor and minority neighbourhoods has multiple benefits to the system that is still all about keeping black people in their place. Low quality schools with few resources like computers, text books for all students. Over policed from the time they start school. When Ronald Reagan was elected, you had a 20% chance of being born poor and working your way up to middle class. With cuts to education and resources to poor community, the War on Drugs, and Zero Tolerance, combined with minimum sentencing, you now have a 2% chance of being born poor and rising into the middle class.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Works for me

Can‘t ban cigarettes, tax them out of existence
$8.50 a pack now

That's right----make it impossible to buy cigarettes while making POT legal-----More pot smokers means more stupid stupid people doing jackass type stuff like torturing animals because it makes them giggle or driving while stoned. What could go wrong...

 

[Dragonlady]

Who are you to decide for others what is or is not "bad choices"? Government justified raising taxes to ridiculous levels to "offset the cost of increased healthcare for smokers". Government leached away enough money to buy a medium sized country but has yet to actually ease healthcare treatment expenses of people with smoking-related medical expenses. A scam and an excuse to separate money from the people to pay for it's own frivolous spending or line the pockets of politicians.

Why should THEIR share of their own healthcare costs be decreased? They brought this on themselves. Why should the taxpayers bear any part of the costs of their treatment? In Canada, we pay nothing out of pocket for our physician care or hospital stays. The extra taxes over the years probably covers it, as do tobacco company legal settlements.

It's hardly a scam and hardly surprising that conservatives talk about "personal responsibility" and "choices have consequences" except when they're asked to take personal responsibility when their personal choices result in in injury or illness to themselves or others.

 

[initforme]

Simply don't smoke or pay for the lung darts and shut up.

 

[22lcidw]

Works for me

Can‘t ban cigarettes, tax them out of existence
$8.50 a pack now

When they started coming out with more generic brands that were cheaper after the massive tax increases, the smokes were actually worse for users.

 

[Leo123]

Tobacco and liquor taxes are known as Pigouvian taxes and meant to offset negative externalites of the things being taxed.

Carbon taxes and gas taxes are also Pigouvian taxes.

The money goes into a general revenue pool, not directly to the entities which bear the cost of the negative externalities. However, money is fungible, so in effect that is where the money is going.

Yeah, government pork money. We get it. Carbon tax is a government fraud.

 

[Leo123]

He was quoting someone who said cigs were $12 a pack where they live.

I calculated off RW's cost. He's an idiot anyway.

 

[Leo123]

Hell. I can get enough homegrown weed to roll 20 for that

Yeah, here in CA where it is legal to grow, folks give it away to friends anyway. Which is the way it should be in the first place.

 

[9thIDdoc]

It's hardly a scam and hardly surprising that conservatives talk about "personal responsibility" and "choices have consequences" except when they're asked to take personal responsibility when their personal choices result in in injury or illness to themselves or others.

Smokers were required to take personal responsibility both before and after the government levied their "sin tax". Instead of using it for what they claimed the money was for they have not spent a dime for that purpose. Simply a bald-faced lie used to enrich themselves. A scam.

 

[Leo123]

It's hardly a scam and hardly surprising that conservatives talk about "personal responsibility" and "choices have consequences" except when they're asked to take personal responsibility when their personal choices result in in injury or illness to themselves or others.

Smokers were required to take personal responsibility both before and after the government levied their "sin tax". Instead of using it for what they claimed the money was for they have not spent a dime for that purpose. Simply a bald-faced lie used to enrich themselves. A scam.

Second hand smoke risk is a fraud. Goverment paid health care is a Socialist government control of We The People tool. You fell for all that shit?

 

[Leo123]

When they started coming out with more generic brands that were cheaper after the massive tax increases, the smokes were actually worse for users.

Government lifestyle edicts always cause misery and pain to everyone. But, that's what the Democrats want, to keep you in misery and lie to you that it is someone else's fault, A 'someone else' who is 'rich' and hoards all the $$$ for themself. Funny, that describes most Democrats. Remember they always blame YOU for the nasty shit that THEY themselves do. Read Rules For Radicals because the Marxists are no in charge.

 

[g5000]

Yeah, government pork money. We get it. Carbon tax is a government fraud.

I think the carbon tax is a Wall Street fraud. Long story.

 

[Leo123]

I think the carbon tax is a Wall Street fraud. Long story.

Wall Street IS the Government today.

 

[Nostra]

Hopefully this will drive them to quit. Conservatives want to be free to make bad choices, and then inflict the results of their bad choices onto others. You want to smoke, and have other people pay for your health care. I prefer that smokers be reminded every time they buy a pack of cigarettes that there is a big costs to stupid decisions

Conservatives want to be free to make bad choices, and then inflict the results of their bad choices onto others.

So you are for doing away with welfare given to women who have kids they can't afford.

Got it.

 

[Nostra]

Once again you give evidence that you're too stupid and too lazy to google. You also prove that you didn't read these links that on any of the last four times (minimum) that I post them, FuckBoi. Why don't you have a job? Are you too stupid, or too lazy to get a job?

Millions in lawsuit settlements are another hidden cost of police misconduct, legal experts say

Over $300 million was spent in fiscal year 2019 for judgments in three U.S. cities.

abcnews.go.com

How Cities Offload the Cost of Police Brutality

Cities spend tens of millions of dollars on lawsuits over police violence and killings. But municipalities are effectively using residents to mortgage the cost.

www.bloomberg.com

Fact check: Municipal taxpayers foot the bill for police brutality with interest-collecting bonds

If a city finances a police misconduct judgment or settlement with municipal bonds, then a bondholder can technically profit from police brutality.

www.usatoday.com

Commentary: Let taxpayers know where money for police misconduct settlements comes from

Establishing transparency around these costs, and how they’re paid, is critical to spurring more reform, encouraging more equitable policing and reducing police misconduct resulting in lower monetary settlements.

www.chicagotribune.com

Let me know how you enjoyed the articles FuckBoi!

$300 million nationwide for an entire year, or a measly $6 million per state for the year. Peanuts.

And your links don't back up your lies about high property taxes being caused by these lawsuits, Dumbass.

Thanks for bringing links proving you are a lying sack of KKKanadian shit. I enjoyed your articles immensely.........

 

[justinacolmena]

Most of the smokers I see look just like low and middle income people. But now that I know they’re rich, tax the bastards.

Democrats propose 'exceedingly regressive' tobacco and nicotine tax hikes

Democrats are pushing to increase tobacco and nicotine taxes to help fund their multitrillion-dollar spending package.

news.yahoo.com

Sounds like nasty-ass tobacco on the market. People are suddenly hacking and coughing and choking on cigarettes which used to be palatable, affordable, and unobjectionable to bystanders.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Most smokers are poor to low middle class. Leftists think they know something, they don't. All they want to do is tax, tax, tax for their own stupidity, stupidity, stupidity.

 

[DukeU]

Hopefully this will drive them to quit. Conservatives want to be free to make bad choices, and then inflict the results of their bad choices onto others. You want to smoke, and have other people pay for your health care. I prefer that smokers be reminded every time they buy a pack of cigarettes that there is a big costs to stupid decisions.

Let's apply this same logic to abortion too.......Maybe it will drive them to quit?!?