Affordability or Tax Hikes? Spanberger Agenda Caught in Political Crossfire

[WorldWatcher]

Wrong. It's a circular argument.

Democrats redrew the map for political power. Redrawing the map according to race is unconstitutional.

The GOP just changed it back to where it was before the Dems rigged the map.

When was last time Dems controlled the Texas Legislatue with Dem Governor?

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[WorldWatcher]

You seem to think that Texas is the ONLY red state that will redraw.

Which per the SCOTUS other red states can do.

I personally don't care. What I want is legislation from the US legislature that codifies the Census laws to count ONLY citizens for apportionment. They can count all the illegals they want, but they are NOT to be considered when handing out House Seats.

#1 That is NOT in the purview of US legislatures or Congress as the Constitution is very clear on counting all persons and that all person are to be used in the allocation of House Represenatives.

#2 That means that it will take a Constitutional Amendment. Which I'm fine with (a) count all persons, and (b) only use citizens for Representative allocation. I can support such an amendment, so where is it?

#3 Attempting to do it with either state or federal law is a complete waste of time, effort, and resources.

That is where the GOP wins are located. Remove the illegals and the Dems will never win another election.

Illegals don't vote, and where there is the odd one-off, they are statistically irrelevant. Not saying there should be any, there shouldn't. But there are more cases - IMHO - of GOP voting for dead relatives then there were cases of illegals voting in federal elections. Illegal Aliens stay as far away from legal entanglements as they can because - wait for it - wait for it - they are Illegal and don't want to bring attention to themselves.
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So let's work together on the Constitutional Amendment, shall we?

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[WorldWatcher]

Virginia didn't have a massive increase in population to deal with, but hey, you do you.

Bullshit.

Any population change in Texas, California, and possibly Virginia since the census is totally irrelevantg to the number of House seats because those are fixed at the census and set only every 10 years.

Texas's actions weere not based on population/represenative seat changes. They were an attempt to squeeze more GOP seats and reduced DEM seats as part of the Texas delegation.

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[mudwhistle]

When was last time Dems controlled the Texas Legislatue with Dem Governor?

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Last year.

The Texas House was filled with Democrats that claimed to be Republicans.

They elected a radical leftist as Speaker to help them cram their garbage down everyone's throat.

This is well-known and duly noted by everyone, including the voters who voted that shit out of office last November.

 

[struth]

Correct, and the SCOTUS said that redrawing districts for political power - which is what Texas did - was fine.

So California, and maybe now Virginia, are redrawing their maps for political power reason. The same as Texas.

Ain't Karma great.

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Ther problem with the Dems in VA, is what they did was illegal

Virginia Democrats' redistricting resolution illegal due to technicality, judge finds​

Virginia Democrats' redistricting resolution illegal due to technicality, judge finds

The judge also said the Democratic-led legislature failed to follow its own rules in adding the redistricting amendment to a special session, calling that “a blatant abuse of power.”

www.pbs.org

 

[mudwhistle]

Bullshit.

Any population change in Texas, California, and possibly Virginia since the census is totally irrelevantg to the number of House seats because those are fixed at the census and set only every 10 years.

Texas's actions weere not based on population/represenative seat changes. They were an attempt to squeeze more GOP seats and reduced DEM seats as part of the Texas delegation.

WW

We all know the rules.....but rules are for Democrats to enforce on everyone else, not themselves.

Nobody is above the law except Democrats.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[WorldWatcher]

Last year.

The Texas House was filled with Democrats that claimed to be Republicans.

They elected a radical leftist as Speaker to help them cram their garbage down everyone's throat.

This is well-known and duly noted by everyone, including the voters who voted that shit out of office last November.

So last year the Texas Legislature was filled with Republicans and then voted to change the Texas districts at the behestg of Donald Trump to then send more GOP Representatives to Congress.

Is that the logic you are going with?

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[WorldWatcher]

Ther problem with the Dems in VA, is what they did was illegal

Virginia Democrats' redistricting resolution illegal due to technicality, judge finds​

Virginia Democrats' redistricting resolution illegal due to technicality, judge finds

The judge also said the Democratic-led legislature failed to follow its own rules in adding the redistricting amendment to a special session, calling that “a blatant abuse of power.”

www.pbs.org

And that ruling has been appealed and the appeals court is trying to get the VA Supreme Court to take up the matter.

If the redistricting is shot down for procedural reasons (in other words it was not attempted in the proper timeline), I'm fine with that.

But let us not forget, this all started with Trump wanting more seats out of Texas.

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Virginia Court of Appeals asks SCOVA to take over redistricting case

Democratic lawmakers appealed a ruling finding their constitutional amendment unlawful.

www.vpm.org

 

[struth]

And that ruling has been appealed and the appeals court is trying to get the VA Supreme Court to take up the matter.

If the redistricting is shot down for procedural reasons (in other words it was not attempted in the proper timeline), I'm fine with that.

But let us not forget, this all started with Trump wanting more seats out of Texas.

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Virginia Court of Appeals asks SCOVA to take over redistricting case

Democratic lawmakers appealed a ruling finding their constitutional amendment unlawful.

www.vpm.org

Trump didn't make the dems in VA commit an illegal redistricting scam.

Trump certainly supported TX doing a legal act

 

[mudwhistle]

So last year the Texas Legislature was filled with Republicans and then voted to change the Texas districts at the behestg of Donald Trump to then send more GOP Representatives to Congress.

Is that the logic you are going with?

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Not last year.....the last congress before the election.

I suppose you're going to claim I don't know what I'm talking about because we just started a new year?

Fck off.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Not last year.....the last congress before the election.

I suppose you're going to claim I don't know what I'm talking about because we just started a new year?

Fck off.

Psst…

Congress doesn’t draw House districts.

You have a blessed day.

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[hadit]

Bullshit.

Any population change in Texas, California, and possibly Virginia since the census is totally irrelevantg to the number of House seats because those are fixed at the census and set only every 10 years.

Texas's actions weere not based on population/represenative seat changes. They were an attempt to squeeze more GOP seats and reduced DEM seats as part of the Texas delegation.

WW

They had a massive increase and needed more districts to accommodate them.

 

[WorldWatcher]

They had a massive increase and needed more districts to accommodate them.

What part of the number of representatives was fixed by the census and the number of districts did not change are you not getting?

Texas has 40 Representatives based on the 2020 census prior to redistricting and they have 40 Represenatives after redistricting.

There was no increase in the number of districts.

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[1srelluc]

The increase in taxes in Virginia, particularly the proposed new income tax rates, could potentially lead to higher inflation due to the increased cost of living. The new tax brackets and higher rates on high earners and investment income could result in higher overall tax burdens, which may lead to increased spending and demand, pushing up prices. Additionally, the proposed tax increases could affect the purchasing power of residents, potentially leading to inflationary pressures. It is important to consider these factors and their potential impact on the economy and the cost of living in Virginia.

Tax Foundation

 

[hadit]

You regretting that Trump told Texas to redraw their maps, Gov. Abbott said (and I paraphrase) "Hey great idea, we can get 5 more GOP seats in the House), and then got the Texas Legislature to make it happen.

How's that working out as it pertains to the mid-term outlook?

Are you consistent in admitting that Trump and Texas were trying to rig the election when they started the redraw push in Texas?

There is an old saying "watch what you ask for, you just might get it". How is that working out on the House districts front?

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How is any of that a defense of what democrats are attempting to do?

 

[struth]

What part of the number of representatives was fixed by the census and the number of districts did not change are you not getting?

Texas has 40 Representatives based on the 2020 census prior to redistricting and they have 40 Represenatives after redistricting.

There was no increase in the number of districts.

WW

Th number of representatives isn’t changed when there is a redistricting

Stares can change their districts based on population whenever they want, based on their own census

 

[WorldWatcher]

How is any of that a defense of what democrats are attempting to do?

If you don't see the hypocracy of chastizing Virginia attempting to counter what Texas did, I can't help you.

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[struth]

If you don't see the hypocracy of chastizing Virginia attempting to counter what Texas did, I can't help you.

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VA has a constitutional amendment that outlines districting

Texas doesn’t

Dems in VA are trying to undermine the constitution of VA

Moreover, while VA population did increase slightly under the four years of our prior Governor

It didn’t come close to our shift nearly as much as TX

TX is redistricting due to population, VA Dems are doing it in violation of the constitution for politics

 

[WorldWatcher]

Th number of representatives isn’t changed when there is a redistricting

Stares can change their districts based on population whenever they want, based on their own census

There is no requirement that redistricting be done based on population outside the normal allocation of repersenatives based on the 10 year census.

The SCOTUS in clearly indicate in their decision (GREG ABBOTT, ET AL. v. LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS, ET AL. ON APPLICATION FOR STAY, December 4, 2025) that redrawing districts by the majority party is allowed to favor the "dominant political party".

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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a608_7khn.pdf